Replacing a brake rotor

desura

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The dealership quoted me like $570 for the job to be done. The parts cost like $40/rotor so I might try to do it myself.

Or take it elsewhere.

Anyways, how tough a job is replacing brake rotors? Is it something that you can safely DIY, or should you find someone to do it for you?
 

TridenT

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It ain't hard. It will take time, especially if your rotors have been on there for a while...

Took some super-saiyan level strength and lex luthor ingenuity to get mine off. Some of the stuff gets rusted and makes it very difficult. There's plenty of youtube videos on how to do it and what you'll need to do it.

Obviously, YMMV. It could take less than an hour or half the day.
 

desura

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It ain't hard. It will take time, especially if your rotors have been on there for a while...

Took some super-saiyan level strength and lex luthor ingenuity to get mine off. Some of the stuff gets rusted and makes it very difficult. There's plenty of youtube videos on how to do it and what you'll need to do it.

Obviously, YMMV. It could take less than an hour or half the day.

Any tips beyond what I would find in youtube vids?
 

TridenT

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Not really. The youtube videos are really good... There's hundreds of how to do a brake job. EricTheCarGuy is one I like.
 

iamwiz82

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Make, model and year? It's could be a 20 minute job or a weekend job. If you have never done this and don't have anyone to watch you, get it done professionally. Brakes are pretty important in the whole safety thing.
 

boomerang

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^^^^^^
Get another estimate. You couldn't find a more expensive place to get routine maintenance done than at the dealership.
 

desura

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^^^^^^
Get another estimate. You couldn't find a more expensive place to get routine maintenance done than at the dealership.

Oh yeah, a friend is telling me that he knows a guy who can do the work for $100, while I provide the parts. But...it looks like I might be able to DIY this easily myself...saving the $100...
 

monkeydelmagico

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very simple you can do it on that car easily

As for relieving brake pressure all you have to do is take brake fluid resevoir cap off. When you remove the caliper you can use a c clamp or wood clamp to push the caliper in.

Rotors sometimes have retaining screws that can be a real PITA. An impact driver used in the following manner solves that issue:

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theeedude

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It's not a hard job. Are you sure you need new rotors, you may be able to resurface the old ones if they are warped but there is thickness left in them. It would be maybe $10 per rotor for that.

For $570, I would definitely do it myself. It's about a 2 hr job for novice, nothing too difficult if you find directions online.
I may pay $100 + parts for a reputable shop or mechanic do it, especially if I didn't have the tools needed. It's reasonable for professional service.
I wouldn't pay a random guy my friend knows to do it though.
 

iamwiz82

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That picture is from a car in the south. I'm more used to seeing this.

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Everything laying on the ground is the crust of the rotor itself.
 

desura

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Yeah, I'm gonna be ordering parts online, seeing as the prices online are cheaper than local prices. So any tools or lubricants recommended? Looks like a lot of people use impact hammers to keep from stripping bolts. Also, is there a good way to actually lift the car? Better than the old tire jack?
 

JulesMaximus

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I'm just going to say this because it hasn't been said yet, you should never replace just one rotor. You need to do them in pairs. So if you have one bad front rotor you need to replace them both. If one of your rear rotors is bad you need to replace them both.

Same goes for brake pads. You should resurface rotors every time you change pads.
 

desura

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I'm just going to say this because it hasn't been said yet, you should never replace just one rotor. You need to do them in pairs. So if you have one bad front rotor you need to replace them both. If one of your rear rotors is bad you need to replace them both.

Same goes for brake pads. You should resurface rotors every time you change pads.

Well, yeah, I get that. Prices are typically quoted "per axle"

but...having to do rotor work whenever changing pads? Hmm. Elaborate more?
 

JulesMaximus

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Well, yeah, I get that. Prices are typically quoted "per axle"

but...having to do rotor work whenever changing pads? Hmm. Elaborate more?

Pads should be bedded in to a freshly turned rotor. Everyone knows this.

Can you just hang pads? Sure, people do it all the time, but you will get smoother, better brake feel and better performance if you have a pristine braking surface for the pads to bed into rather than a glazed surface that another pad has already bed into.
 
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desura

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Pads should be bedded in to a freshly turned rotor. Everyone knows this.

Can you just hang pads? Sure, people do it all the time, but you will get smoother, better brake feel and better performance if you have a pristine braking surface for the pads to bed into rather than a glazed surface that another pad has already bed into.

So you're saying that I should remove rotors, then take them to a local auto center for resurfacing?
 

jolancer

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its recommended and optimal to resurface rotors everytime you change pads, but deffinitly not neccesary.. by the way, sometimes trained people can tell if only one rotor is warped, but even then most of the time they won't beable to tell if its a single rotor. How do you know its only one rotor as it sounds like you don't have much experience?

If your driving on OEM rotors though, in my opinion it would be better to have them resurfaced and reused wrather than replacing them with cheap rotors... as all cheap rotors come from inferior alloys made in china which will warp quicker than the OEMs... although if you have a place to easily do it yourself, DIYers wouldn't care for the 'cheap' rotor price they can replace them over and over... thats what cheap shops do, they don't even take the time to resurface them anymore just replacem with a cheap rotor.

Depending on the type of person you are, if you have the right tools or can get them, and have the time and place to do it... for most people its going to be more worth your while to find a good reputable shop in your area that you trust.

judging by your posts so far though, sounds like your starting from scratch without the write tools... if you deside you want to do it, your going to want to use.. 6 point sockets.. you can use anything as suggested to push back the caliper piston, just leave the inside brake pad on the piston as a push surface so you don't damage the piston boot. Since your replacing both pads and rotors what you can sometimes do depending on caliper design is simply wedge an old screwdriver or something between the rotor and caliper housing and force it back while its still fully assembled on the car..

..some rotors have screw holes leading to no where specificly for helping you push a rusty rotor off the hub, I would of said if you were getting rotors from a store instead of online you could pick up the right sized bolts if the new rotor has them at the same time from a hardware store tho, cause if the new rotor has them the old one prolly does to, that way you can check the threads from the rotor in hand.

..If you do do it yourself and it is difficault getting off, grease up the face of the hub, rotor and wheel, so when they go back on they don't rust back together. And antiseeze thread compound if your wheel nuts stick too.

..and a tourque wrench, if you don't torque your lug nuts in a star patern those cheap china rotors are going to warp quick.

..oh yeah and definitly a jack-stand if you don't already, or something good enough like cinder blocks, people in the ghetto will just use the wheel rim they took off as the stand, but you may not want to do that if you care about scratching your rims.
 

RU482

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The dealership quoted me like $570 for the job to be done. The parts cost like $40/rotor so I might try to do it myself.

Or take it elsewhere.

Anyways, how tough a job is replacing brake rotors? Is it something that you can safely DIY, or should you find someone to do it for you?

Wow, where I work, we talk about prices like that. They are called "go away" prices
 

jolancer

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Wow, where I work, we talk about prices like that. They are called "go away" prices

a good dealer wouldn't quote for replacing just one rotor to fix such an issue... unless it was specifically requested one only even if it doesn't fix the problem... for all we know without clearification, that quote could have been for all 4 wheels and parts.
 

JulesMaximus

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So you're saying that I should remove rotors, then take them to a local auto center for resurfacing?

Do you have any pulsating at all felt when braking? If so, then yes. If not I would still recommend it but I suspect that if the dealership says you need new rotors that you probably do but that's easy enough to measure with a mircometer. The minimum spec should be easy enough to find online for your particular vehicle. If it is at or below that spec then you must replace the rotors in pairs based on axle.
 

desura

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a good dealer wouldn't quote for replacing just one rotor to fix such an issue... unless it was specifically requested one only even if it doesn't fix the problem... for all we know without clearification, that quote could have been for all 4 wheels and parts.

sorry if I didn't make it clear, but the dealer quoted for replacing the front TWO rotors.
 

desura

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Do you have any pulsating at all felt when braking? If so, then yes. If not I would still recommend it but I suspect that if the dealership says you need new rotors that you probably do but that's easy enough to measure with a mircometer. The minimum spec should be easy enough to find online for your particular vehicle. If it is at or below that spec then you must replace the rotors in pairs based on axle.

Actually, I don't feel any pulsating...at all. Before the visit, I would not have suspected that there was a problem. I was aware that I was likely on the last 30% of it, but there was no squeaking for instance, and stop distances were acceptable.
 

jolancer

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Actually, I don't feel any pulsating...at all. Before the visit, I would not have suspected that there was a problem. I was aware that I was likely on the last 30% of it, but there was no squeaking for instance, and stop distances were acceptable.

wait.. so you mean you went in for something else.. and the dealer told you the brakes were warped? even though you have no pulsating in the peddle? ..if so they flat out lied to you, If this is a new car dealer than i would pissed if they told one of my friends that.. can report them to the Attorney general consumer protection dept online i believe. If this is a normal shop tho or a used car dealer than i wouldn't be saprized.

..you may have much more than 30% life left, rotors don't wear as nearly as fast as the pads.. the pads are made of softer material for that reason.. and if there's brake squeeking, that in itself doesn't indicate anything wrong either, brand new brakes working 120% can squeek