Replacement GPU for a none gamer

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purplestarfish

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Hi all, first time poster ():)

I've just bought a Samsung S22B350 monitor and have found it to have thin semi-transparent horizontal lines running the full length of the page. It has been suggested elsewhere that this could be an issue with the graphics card that settings won't fix, I've tried it with another source and while I can still faintly see them it's nothing like it is now which is pretty distracting to say the least.

I also want a new card as my experience rating shows the graphics card is a bit of a dead horse anyway;

Processor 6.9
Memory 7.3
Graphics 3.3 (!)
Gaming Graphics 5.7
Data Transfer 5.9

Pretty disapointing for a 128MB PCI-E card, so what budget card (by that I mean as cheap as possible) would you suggest with HDMI output that would hopefully cure both these issues and bring the graphics card roughly in line with the rest on the ratings?

Thanks in advance :)

System Specifications:

I. Processor/CPU: Athlon 2 X3 440


II. Current Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD 5450


III. Display Resolution: 1920 x 1080


IV. Power Supply Unit Specification (Brand, Wattage, Ampage, Age). If possible, please provide a link to a website containing the power supply specifications: Win Power 450w


V. Case Specifications(N/A, Model, Length, Low Profile, Cooling, HTPC, Water, Silent): Full Tower


Purchase Details:

I. Budget? Please be sure to include currency (If not USD), retailer preferences & specify whether rebates are a viable option. Cheapest Possible


II. Any particular preferences (Manufacturer[nV or AMD], Brand[XFX, Sapphire, EVGA, etc], Cooling Solutions)? No


III. Do you plan to have any Multi-GPU solutions such as Crossfire or SLI? No


IV. Have you previously looked at a product(s) which you feel would fit your needs? No


V. What are your needs for this GPU? Which games(If any)do you intend to play? If you have this information at hand, what are the desired detail levels? Internet and office only, no gaming


VI. Do you plan on overclocking the card you intend to purchase? No
 
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Binky

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For basic office use, there's nothing wrong with the 5450. It's not a fast card, but for internet and office work, that's a non-issue. If you really think the card is defective, see if you can return it under warranty (RMA).

I'm not clear on one thing - does your (new?) monitor show visible lines with multiple computers? If yes, you should be replacing the monitor, not the card.

If you really need a new card, something cheap but similar to the 5450 would work. Pretty much any used PCIe card will work. If you want new, look at the Geforce 210, or another 5450 or 6450.
 
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tynopik

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8400gs or another 5450

also you said 128MB, but all 5450s i see come with 512MB
 
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brandonb

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purplestarfish,

Can you go into your System Information (located on the task bar/start/all programs/accessories/system tools/system information) then when that program loads, go into Components/display and copy/paste into this thread? (like the below) Like others have said 128 megs of RAM doesn't seem right. I'm curious if you are using onboard by accident rather than your video card you have.

Name Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family
PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A42&SUBSYS_024F1028&REV_07\3&2B8E0B4B&0&10
Adapter Type Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family, Intel Corporation compatible
Adapter Description Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family
Adapter RAM 775.96 MB (813,651,968 bytes)
Installed Drivers igdumd64.dll,igd10umd64.dll,igdumdx32,igd10umd32
Driver Version 8.15.10.2302
INF File oem5.inf (iCNT0 section)
Color Planes Not Available
Color Table Entries 4294967296
Resolution 2048 x 1152 x 59 hertz
Bits/Pixel 32
Memory Address 0xF6C00000-0xF6FFFFFF
Memory Address 0xE0000000-0xEFFFFFFF
I/O Port 0x0000EF98-0x0000EF9F
IRQ Channel IRQ 4294967294
I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\igdkmd64.sys (8.15.10.2302, 10.14 MB (10,628,640 bytes), 2/11/2011 6:16 PM)

Name Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family
PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A43&SUBSYS_024F1028&REV_07\3&2B8E0B4B&0&11
Adapter Type Not Available, Intel Corporation compatible
Adapter Description Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family
Adapter RAM Not Available
Installed Drivers igdumd64.dll,igd10umd64.dll,igdumdx32,igd10umd32
Driver Version 8.15.10.2302
INF File oem5.inf (iCNT1 section)
Color Planes Not Available
Color Table Entries Not Available
Resolution Not Available
Bits/Pixel Not Available
Memory Address 0xF6B00000-0xF6BFFFFF
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\igdkmd64.sys (8.15.10.2302, 10.14 MB (10,628,640 bytes), 2/11/2011 6:16 PM)
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jacktesterson

jacktesterson

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5450 is fine for that

I use one in a bedroom HTPC at 1080p without issue. Its a XFX 512MB version with passive cooling. Just a FYI, they get real hot too, so make sure you have decent air flow if going passive.
 
Jaydip

Jaydip

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@Phynaz and adam_the_giant
you guys missed this line in his post "Graphics 3.3 (!) would you suggest with HDMI output that would hopefully cure both these issues and bring the graphics card roughly in line with the rest on the ratings?"
He wants to improve his wei,so I had no choice :D
 
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purplestarfish

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Aug 3, 2012
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Thanks for the input guys, it's much appreciated.

I'm not overly concerned with the WEI but that rating does stick out, I'm away from the PC at the moment but when I get back I will check the memory. Thinking about it I'm sure you're right and it's 512MB - this is why I was a bit shocked at such a low rating when I first installed Windows 7, I'm thinking of keeping this build for a while so for the best "future proofing" I can afford I wanted the ratings to be similar rather than one component dragging the rest down if that makes sense.

The card is plenty quick enough and has been fine with a Sony monitor and showed no lines, it's just on the new monitor and the lines show on both VGA and HDMI.

With ref to the V-Sync being disabled, I've had a play with some settings but I still haven't been able to get rid of the lines, do you happen to know where that setting might be please?
 
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zebrax2

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Maybe it isn't the GPU but the monitor that has a problem since it also shows with other sources even if they are faint.
 
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purplestarfish

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Aug 3, 2012
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brandonb said:
purplestarfish,

Can you go into your System Information (located on the task bar/start/all programs/accessories/system tools/system information) then when that program loads, go into Components/display and copy/paste into this thread? (like the below) Like others have said 128 megs of RAM doesn't seem right. I'm curious if you are using onboard by accident rather than your video card you have.
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Name ATI Radeon HD 5450
PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68F9&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\4&30132929&0&0048
Adapter Type ATI display adapter (0x68F9), Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. compatible
Adapter Description ATI Radeon HD 5450
Adapter RAM 512.00 MB (536,870,912 bytes)
Installed Drivers aticfx32.dll,aticfx32.dll,aticfx32.dll,atiumdag.dll,atidxx32.dll,atiumdva.cap
Driver Version 8.961.0.0
INF File oem32.inf (ati2mtag_EvergreenC section)
Color Planes Not Available
Color Table Entries 4294967296
Resolution 1920 x 1080 x 60 hertz
Bits/Pixel 32
Memory Address 0xD0000000-0xDFFFFFFF
Memory Address 0xFDDC0000-0xFDDDFFFF
I/O Port 0x0000AC00-0x0000ACFF
IRQ Channel IRQ 4294967293
I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\atikmpag.sys (8.14.1.6261, 269.50 KB (275,968 bytes), 06/04/2012 02:10)

:thumbsup:
 
hokies83

hokies83

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Get a GT 240 you can snag them for 35-40$ i use one on my HTPC works fine.. replaced a GS 8400 that was not up to the task.
 
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purplestarfish

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Aug 3, 2012
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Sorry to drag up an old thread but I thought it may be of use in the future.

I've managed to try this monitor with a Mac Mini and guess what? It have the same lines, so unless you like semi transparent lines across your display all the time stay away from the Samsung S22B350, it's merde...
 
chimaxi83

chimaxi83

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purplestarfish said:
Sorry to drag up an old thread but I thought it may be of use in the future.

I've managed to try this monitor with a Mac Mini and guess what? It have the same lines, so unless you like semi transparent lines across your display all the time stay away from the Samsung S22B350, it's merde...
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Why aren't you getting the monitor replaced?
 
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purplestarfish

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Aug 3, 2012
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chimaxi83 said:
Why aren't you getting the monitor replaced?
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Laziness, it would involve taking it back to the store and it's now outside of the time allowed to do that. Samsung have said they could have an engineer come round, which is fine but it will inevitably involve taking a day off work and I can think of better things to do with a holiday, easier to sell it and get something else to be honest :)
 
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karder

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HIS 6670 for around $85 at amazon.com will serve you very well.

Non-powered, but still well performing.
 
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Binky

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purplestarfish said:
...easier to sell it and get something else to be honest :)
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I'm not sure that selling a defective monitor is the best idea. Also, it doesn't sound very "honest." If its returnable, that's the best idea since you will get a new monitor. If not, work through the RMA process and you will get it repaired or get a refurb monitor. Either way, its better than trying to sell something that is broken - the buyer might be denied warranty coverage.
 
jacktesterson

jacktesterson

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purplestarfish said:
Laziness, it would involve taking it back to the store and it's now outside of the time allowed to do that. Samsung have said they could have an engineer come round, which is fine but it will inevitably involve taking a day off work and I can think of better things to do with a holiday, easier to sell it and get something else to be honest :)
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o_O
 
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purplestarfish

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Aug 3, 2012
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Binky said:
I'm not sure that selling a defective monitor is the best idea. Also, it doesn't sound very "honest." If its returnable, that's the best idea since you will get a new monitor. If not, work through the RMA process and you will get it repaired or get a refurb monitor. Either way, its better than trying to sell something that is broken - the buyer might be denied warranty coverage.
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I don't think it's faulty, it's just crap! I managed to find similar reports online for this model;

http://forums.cnet.com/7723-13973_1...sa350-semi-transparent-grey-horizontal-lines/

Also as mentioned I'm not jumping through anyone's hoops, I have better things to do with my time.
 
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