Replacement for oatmeal?

[S Freud]

I usually have a shake when I first wake up followed by eggs and oatmeal...I don't really care for oatmeal though.

Is there I anything I could eat in place of the oatmeal that would be a long lasting carb like oatmeal?

What do some of you guys eat for breakfast? Or over the whole day for that matter?


I'm bulking right now so I'm open to anything.

 

[brikis98]

First, check out these suggestions for making oatmeal taste better. Second, do you have some special need for it to be a "long lasting carb" (especially during a bulk)? If you need carbs, I'd recommend getting them from unprocessed foods, such as veggies and especially fruits - a fruit salad in the morning is an awesome way to start the day. Otherwise, any food you like and is quick/easy to prepare is fair game in the morning. My breakfast consists of cottage cheese mixed with peanut butter and berries, a clementine or two, and a glass of milk.

 

[conorvansmack]

Grape Nuts cereal has always stuck with me, similar to the way oatmeal does.

 

[S Freud]

Originally posted by: brikis98
First, check out these suggestions for making oatmeal taste better. Second, do you have some special need for it to be a "long lasting carb" (especially during a bulk)? If you need carbs, I'd recommend getting them from unprocessed foods, such as veggies and especially fruits - a fruit salad in the morning is an awesome way to start the day. Otherwise, any food you like and is quick/easy to prepare is fair game in the morning. My breakfast consists of cottage cheese mixed with peanut butter and berries, a clementine or two, and a glass of milk.

To be honest I am going off of diets I have read online and magazine suggestions. I have the protein in the morning after sleeping then carbs and more protein (oatmeal and eggs) I also do it for the amount of calories in the morning.

Like I said though my diet is basically taken from reading different articles. I could post it I suppose and you guys could critique it.

 

[mchammer187]

sometimes I'll add about 4 tbsp of wheat germ to cottage cheese

its really not bad at all as long as you add fruit to it

1 banana + 4 tablespoons + 1/2 cup of cottage cheese and you can skip the eggs

make sure you find low sodium cottage cheese though because it will taste gross if the cottage cheese is salty

then again you can probably just add fruit to your oatmeal and call it a day

 

[silverpig]

Cream of wheat?
Red River?
Granola?

I usually eat either cottage cheese or plain yogurt and fruit for breakfast.

 

[Eric62]

Fruit eaten by itself is as bad as eating white sugar by the spoonful minus the minute fiber, of course. Fruit juice is even worse, no fiber. Fruit = fructose = bad under most circumstances.
Fruit juice immediately post training (with 50 gr whey protein, and with a scoop of Metamucil) being the sole exception IMO. Some might add creatine and a shot of Humulin-R; I don't suggest either for the casual athlete...

 

[brikis98]

Originally posted by: Eric62
Fruit eaten by itself is as bad as eating white sugar by the spoonful minus the minute fiber, of course. Fruit juice is even worse, no fiber. Fruit = fructose = bad under most circumstances.

And this is why exactly?

 

[Kaido]

I use McCann's Irish Steel-Cut Oats:

http://www.mccanns.ie/p_SteelCut.html

I can't stand regular oatmeal, I think it's disgusting lol. The Steel-Cut oats are more chunky and more edible for me, I actually enjoy them with some agave nectar! They take longer to cook (I have my rice cooker do it automatically, hehe), but you can store it in the fridge for up to a week, so I just make a week's worth at a time

 

[Kipper]

Originally posted by: Eric62
Fruit eaten by itself is as bad as eating white sugar by the spoonful minus the minute fiber, of course. Fruit juice is even worse, no fiber. Fruit = fructose = bad under most circumstances.
Fruit juice immediately post training (with 50 gr whey protein, and with a scoop of Metamucil) being the sole exception IMO. Some might add creatine and a shot of Humulin-R; I don't suggest either for the casual athlete...

Wow, way to give out rubbish information. The fact you're even discussing administering a injection of synthetic insulin (Humulin-R) after exercise is a testament to that fact. I wouldn't recommend that to ANYBODY, "casual," amateur, or professional.

There is ZERO problem with fruit at any point of the day, even by itself. The "little bit of fiber" you mentioned, largely fermentable (soluble) does in fact help delay the absorption of fructose and slow digestion, promoting satiety. Fructose is generally more lipogenic when compared to glucose (although whether this actually translates to any physiological difference is a matter of debate), BUT this does not necessarily mean that fructose will automatically cause storage of fat - especially not in the concentrations we're talking about in a piece of fruit (what, 10-20g, at MOST?). Fructose CAN and IS converted into glucose equivalents or glucose itself, with the conversion modulated by whatever the needs are at the moment and the relative concentrations of enzyme substrates ('raw' materials). Let's also not forget the phytochemicals, vitamins, and minerals in fruit.

Fruit juice is calorific because it is concentrated fruit, and can be just as bad as soda in that respect - but not necessarily because of the fructose, but once again - because of the calories. The actual USDA guideline is somewhere around 8 oz/day maximum. That said, if you are looking to minimize recovery time post-workout, you would be best advised to consume a simple carbohydrate (e.g. white bread), which would accelerate glycogen resynthesis and muscular recovery.

 

[Kipper]

Originally posted by: Kaido
I use McCann's Irish Steel-Cut Oats:

http://www.mccanns.ie/p_SteelCut.html

I can't stand regular oatmeal, I think it's disgusting lol. The Steel-Cut oats are more chunky and more edible for me, I actually enjoy them with some agave nectar! They take longer to cook (I have my rice cooker do it automatically, hehe), but you can store it in the fridge for up to a week, so I just make a week's worth at a time

Easier way to prepare them is to add oats and water to a pot at 1:3 ratio, bring it to a boil, and then let it cool for about 20-25 minutes before putting it into the refrigerator overnight. The next morning, add about 1/2 cup of water, break apart the oatmeal, reheat, and then eat. This is probably the quickest way to prepare steel-cut oats...they tend to get more bland the older they get, and from a food safety standpoint leaving them in the fridge for a week is probably inadvisable. 2-3 days, max.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Eric62
Fruit eaten by itself is as bad as eating white sugar by the spoonful minus the minute fiber, of course. Fruit juice is even worse, no fiber. Fruit = fructose = bad under most circumstances.
Fruit juice immediately post training (with 50 gr whey protein, and with a scoop of Metamucil) being the sole exception IMO. Some might add creatine and a shot of Humulin-R; I don't suggest either for the casual athlete...

Yeah great suggestion. The natural stuff is bad, let's have processed stuff and artificial insulin.

 

[brikis98]

Originally posted by: Kipper

Originally posted by: Eric62
Fruit eaten by itself is as bad as eating white sugar by the spoonful minus the minute fiber, of course. Fruit juice is even worse, no fiber. Fruit = fructose = bad under most circumstances.
Fruit juice immediately post training (with 50 gr whey protein, and with a scoop of Metamucil) being the sole exception IMO. Some might add creatine and a shot of Humulin-R; I don't suggest either for the casual athlete...

Wow, way to give out rubbish information. The fact you're even discussing administering a injection of synthetic insulin (Humulin-R) after exercise is a testament to that fact. I wouldn't recommend that to ANYBODY, "casual," amateur, or professional.

There is ZERO problem with fruit at any point of the day, even by itself. The "little bit of fiber" you mentioned, largely fermentable (soluble) does in fact help delay the absorption of fructose and slow digestion, promoting satiety. Fructose is generally more lipogenic when compared to glucose (although whether this actually translates to any physiological difference is a matter of debate), BUT this does not necessarily mean that fructose will automatically cause storage of fat - especially not in the concentrations we're talking about in a piece of fruit (what, 10-20g, at MOST?). Fructose CAN and IS converted into glucose equivalents or glucose itself, with the conversion modulated by whatever the needs are at the moment and the relative concentrations of enzyme substrates ('raw' materials). Let's also not forget the phytochemicals, vitamins, and minerals in fruit.

Fruit juice is calorific because it is concentrated fruit, and can be just as bad as soda in that respect - but not necessarily because of the fructose, but once again - because of the calories. The actual USDA guideline is somewhere around 8 oz/day maximum. That said, if you are looking to minimize recovery time post-workout, you would be best advised to consume a simple carbohydrate (e.g. white bread), which would accelerate glycogen resynthesis and muscular recovery.

Nice response. Seriously, food scientists disagree on just about everything, but virtually none of them disputes that fruits and vegetables are good for you.

 

[Eric62]

Originally posted by: brikis98

Originally posted by: Kipper

Originally posted by: Eric62
Fruit eaten by itself is as bad as eating white sugar by the spoonful minus the minute fiber, of course. Fruit juice is even worse, no fiber. Fruit = fructose = bad under most circumstances.
Fruit juice immediately post training (with 50 gr whey protein, and with a scoop of Metamucil) being the sole exception IMO. Some might add creatine and a shot of Humulin-R; I don't suggest either for the casual athlete...

Wow, way to give out rubbish information. The fact you're even discussing administering a injection of synthetic insulin (Humulin-R) after exercise is a testament to that fact. I wouldn't recommend that to ANYBODY, "casual," amateur, or professional.

There is ZERO problem with fruit at any point of the day, even by itself. The "little bit of fiber" you mentioned, largely fermentable (soluble) does in fact help delay the absorption of fructose and slow digestion, promoting satiety. Fructose is generally more lipogenic when compared to glucose (although whether this actually translates to any physiological difference is a matter of debate), BUT this does not necessarily mean that fructose will automatically cause storage of fat - especially not in the concentrations we're talking about in a piece of fruit (what, 10-20g, at MOST?). Fructose CAN and IS converted into glucose equivalents or glucose itself, with the conversion modulated by whatever the needs are at the moment and the relative concentrations of enzyme substrates ('raw' materials). Let's also not forget the phytochemicals, vitamins, and minerals in fruit.

Fruit juice is calorific because it is concentrated fruit, and can be just as bad as soda in that respect - but not necessarily because of the fructose, but once again - because of the calories. The actual USDA guideline is somewhere around 8 oz/day maximum. That said, if you are looking to minimize recovery time post-workout, you would be best advised to consume a simple carbohydrate (e.g. white bread), which would accelerate glycogen resynthesis and muscular recovery.

Nice response. Seriously, food scientists disagree on just about everything, but virtually none of them disputes that fruits and vegetables are good for you.

And none of them are world champion athletes....

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: Kipper

Originally posted by: Kaido
I use McCann's Irish Steel-Cut Oats:

http://www.mccanns.ie/p_SteelCut.html

I can't stand regular oatmeal, I think it's disgusting lol. The Steel-Cut oats are more chunky and more edible for me, I actually enjoy them with some agave nectar! They take longer to cook (I have my rice cooker do it automatically, hehe), but you can store it in the fridge for up to a week, so I just make a week's worth at a time

Easier way to prepare them is to add oats and water to a pot at 1:3 ratio, bring it to a boil, and then let it cool for about 20-25 minutes before putting it into the refrigerator overnight. The next morning, add about 1/2 cup of water, break apart the oatmeal, reheat, and then eat. This is probably the quickest way to prepare steel-cut oats...they tend to get more bland the older they get, and from a food safety standpoint leaving them in the fridge for a week is probably inadvisable. 2-3 days, max.

Slick!

I'm fortunate in that my fuzzy-logic rice cooker has a porridge option, so I do a 1:4 ratio with water, hit the button, and come back later to a fully-cooked pot of steel-cut oats I usually just throw it in when I wake up, then take a shower etc. and get ready for the day, eat a bowl of oatmeal, then toss the rest in a plastic container for the rest of the week. Easy peasy :thumbsup:

 

[brikis98]

Originally posted by: Eric62
And none of them are world champion athletes....

Neither is the OP. Moreover, how many world champion athletes - that is, what proportion of all champion athletes - do you know that avoid fruits?

 

[KingGheedora]

Originally posted by: Eric62

Originally posted by: brikis98

Originally posted by: Kipper

Originally posted by: Eric62
Fruit eaten by itself is as bad as eating white sugar by the spoonful minus the minute fiber, of course. Fruit juice is even worse, no fiber. Fruit = fructose = bad under most circumstances.
Fruit juice immediately post training (with 50 gr whey protein, and with a scoop of Metamucil) being the sole exception IMO. Some might add creatine and a shot of Humulin-R; I don't suggest either for the casual athlete...

Wow, way to give out rubbish information. The fact you're even discussing administering a injection of synthetic insulin (Humulin-R) after exercise is a testament to that fact. I wouldn't recommend that to ANYBODY, "casual," amateur, or professional.

There is ZERO problem with fruit at any point of the day, even by itself. The "little bit of fiber" you mentioned, largely fermentable (soluble) does in fact help delay the absorption of fructose and slow digestion, promoting satiety. Fructose is generally more lipogenic when compared to glucose (although whether this actually translates to any physiological difference is a matter of debate), BUT this does not necessarily mean that fructose will automatically cause storage of fat - especially not in the concentrations we're talking about in a piece of fruit (what, 10-20g, at MOST?). Fructose CAN and IS converted into glucose equivalents or glucose itself, with the conversion modulated by whatever the needs are at the moment and the relative concentrations of enzyme substrates ('raw' materials). Let's also not forget the phytochemicals, vitamins, and minerals in fruit.

Fruit juice is calorific because it is concentrated fruit, and can be just as bad as soda in that respect - but not necessarily because of the fructose, but once again - because of the calories. The actual USDA guideline is somewhere around 8 oz/day maximum. That said, if you are looking to minimize recovery time post-workout, you would be best advised to consume a simple carbohydrate (e.g. white bread), which would accelerate glycogen resynthesis and muscular recovery.

Nice response. Seriously, food scientists disagree on just about everything, but virtually none of them disputes that fruits and vegetables are good for you.

And none of them are world champion athletes....

Who advises the world champion athletes on what to eat?

 

[Deeko]

Certain fruits eaten at the wrong time CAN lead to a sugar crash that is not ideal for an athlete at any level.

 

[polarmystery]

Originally posted by: Eric62
Fruit eaten by itself is as bad as eating white sugar by the spoonful minus the minute fiber, of course. Fruit juice is even worse, no fiber. Fruit = fructose = bad under most circumstances.
Fruit juice immediately post training (with 50 gr whey protein, and with a scoop of Metamucil) being the sole exception IMO. Some might add creatine and a shot of Humulin-R; I don't suggest either for the casual athlete...

You win the WTF award for the day.

 

[Kipper]

Originally posted by: Deeko
Certain fruits eaten at the wrong time CAN lead to a sugar crash that is not ideal for an athlete at any level.

Uh, what? Blood glucose concentration is one of the most tightly regulated in the body. Experiencing hypoglycemic symptoms after consumption of carbohydrate is likely to be something completely unrelated.

In short, I'd like to see the clinical evidence for this.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: Kipper

Originally posted by: Deeko
Certain fruits eaten at the wrong time CAN lead to a sugar crash that is not ideal for an athlete at any level.

Uh, what? Blood glucose concentration is one of the most tightly regulated in the body. Experiencing hypoglycemic symptoms after consumption of carbohydrate is likely to be something completely unrelated.

In short, I'd like to see the clinical evidence for this.

Here you are sir.