Replace Thermal Paste? If so, Get New Kind?

[Virgorising]

Hi.

I am not crazy happy about my CPU temps while video converting, and I do a lot of it. I would like them lower. I would even like my idle temps lower, but they are not terrible. I will put up images of both to save time.

So, I think I should maybe take puppy insides down and replace the thermal paste. I've used Arctic Silver 5 from The Get way back....for myself and then, for friends' systems as well. I have some left in my personal supply, I get new for friends...mine is quite old.

But I once emailed them---lovely humans---and they said they have some they test which remains perfectly viable after 12 years. They said that.

But I just delved a bit, and it seems smart, paste-savvy people now use other than the AS 5 I have always used. So I need to know if I should buy better, and what better is.

If, that is, I am not being paranoid re existing paste.....which would be original, or if I should replace it. When I see the temps converting.....I envision dried up paste. Box is pretty clean, I clean it often in winter cause my very expensive down comforter still leaks micro particles of down.....gets on everything, but I would not wanna live without it.

Many thanks.

Below, while video converting.

Below, at idle.

Addendum: I should add, no way is there an Intel stock cooler in this system for this chip.....it's proprietary and really good.

Thanks!

 

[inachu]

The most cheap ways to keep your pc cool.

New thermal paste.
New pc case meant to drive air around inside the case instead of that tiny stupid case with one venting fan in the back called your PSU.
Stop pushing the back of your pc up against the wall thus choking it.

 

[Virgorising]

The most cheap ways to keep your pc cool.

New thermal paste.
New pc case meant to drive air around inside the case instead of that tiny stupid case with one venting fan in the back called your PSU.
Stop pushing the back of your pc up against the wall thus choking it.

Clearly, I am posting about number ONE.

Two and three I have known about forever..... and are never a problem in my life. I am not a novice.

 

[denis280]

Hey!Virgo.New heatsink cooler master evo.and artic silver

 

[Virgorising]

Hey!Virgo.New heatsink cooler master evo.and artic silver

Hey, Denis!!!!

First, as I made sure to say, my heatsink cooler is excellent, no way Intel stock. So, U think I should do this? And use the the rest of the Arctic Silver 5 I still have?

It's all I've ever used.....and if you still use it, that's good enough for me.

 

[VirtualLarry]

First off, you should be using RealTemp or CoreTemp (click on "more downloads", and get the non-spyware-laden .zip file version), and report the Tjunction temps.

Personally, I don't see a thing wrong with your temps. You're unlikely to get significantly lower temps just changing out the paste.

 

[Virgorising]

First off, you should be using RealTemp or CoreTemp (click on "more downloads", and get the non-spyware-laden .zip file version), and report the Tjunction temps.

Personally, I don't see a thing wrong with your temps. You're unlikely to get significantly lower temps just changing out the paste.

It's truly focused LARRY!!!:biggrin:

I do, of course have Core Temp....I just never use it. I will run it and put up the results. Hold on.

The 70C under load via Speed Fan---well close to.....freaked me out.....so I went and got out my little tube of Arctic Silver already.
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K, I am back.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Now, is that pic, idle temps, or load under video-conversion? Edit your post to specify, and then put up a pic of load temps while doing video-conversion.

 

[Virgorising]

Now, is that pic, idle temps, or load under video-conversion? Edit your post to specify, and then put up a pic of load temps while doing video-conversion.

O! No that was at idle. I now need something to convert. Cause after I convert, I delete. Pls give me a bit. And many thanks for yr help on this!!!

 

[VirtualLarry]

Let me give you my stats for comparison.

I have a dual-core Haswell G3258 @ 3.8.

Using CoreTemp 1.0RC6 in Win7 64-bit (sorry, no pic), It shows:
TJ Max 100C
Power 42.1W
Core #0 (current) 65C (min) 38C (max) 77C
Core #1 (current) 56C (min) 38C (max) 68C

For some reason, there's like a 10C spread between my two cores at load. Don't know why, it just is.

But as you can see, my min TJunction temp is 38C, at idle. My thermostat is set at 65F, and it's winter here in New England.

Load temps doing distributed-computing at 77C, they get as high as 80-81C sometimes. I'm only using the stock cooler that comes with the G3258 (copper core though).

I would consider that to be "warm" at load, but not excessively so, considering the stock heatsink.

In short, I believe that your temps are actually fine, but I'll wait for my recommendation until I see CoreTemp readings while under load.

 

[Virgorising]

Let me give you my stats for comparison.

I have a dual-core Haswell G3258 @ 3.8.

Using CoreTemp 1.0RC6 in Win7 64-bit (sorry, no pic), It shows:
TJ Max 100C
Power 42.1W
Core #0 (current) 65C (min) 38C (max) 77C
Core #1 (current) 56C (min) 38C (max) 68C

For some reason, there's like a 10C spread between my two cores at load. Don't know why, it just is.

But as you can see, my min TJunction temp is 38C, at idle. My thermostat is set at 65F, and it's winter here in New England.

Load temps doing distributed-computing at 77C, they get as high as 80-81C sometimes. I'm only using the stock cooler that comes with the G3258 (copper core though).

I would consider that to be "warm" at load, but not excessively so, considering the stock heatsink.

In short, I believe that your temps are actually fine, but I'll wait for my recommendation until I see CoreTemp readings while under load.

Wow. I am as usual, in yr debt for being, well, Larry....& taking the time to share all that.....and all important and illuminating!!! Some day I will have a quad core Haswell system....but not right now.

K....I got an episode of Antiques Road Show and started converting it, then ran Core Temp. I will put up the result. But my CPU would not go to higher load than you see. I chose this old Lynnfield chip Optiplex purposefully....it still rocks! Amazing benchmarks for its generation.

Putting up entire screenie of desktop so you don miss anything you might wanna see.()

I always think paste should be replaced at regular intervals. Tho it doesn't help fend off the NSA.:whiste:

Also, fps in this way slower than usual.....I most often get over 400. Maybe I should get something else to convert to challenge the chip more.

Edit: I am amazed your Haswell dual core idles at 38C! I remember last winter, mine was below 30C for all 4 cores at idle! I think the NSA has maximized my general paranoia. If I can't get rid of their spy....or even SEE it, at least I can take this puppy apart and replace the thermal paste.:'(

 

[geofelt]

A decent cooler will let you idle at 10-15c. over ambient.
I think your temps are fine and will not change if you replace the thermal compound.

A cpu will slow down or shut down to prevent damage if it gets too hot.
You are nowhere near those limits.
Also, your cpu is a bit old, the newer chips run cooler.

 

[Virgorising]

A decent cooler will let you idle at 10-15c. over ambient.

Well, as I made sure to say to save time, mine is an excellent cooler, Intel makes uber chips, but pitiable coolers, we get that. After all, 32C is over 89F. Obviously, it is nowhere near 89F in this room.:whiste::biggrin:

A cpu will slow down or shut down to prevent damage if it gets too hot.

Please, who doesn't now that? For this chip, 100C. I know far too much to let any chip get even close to emergency shut down temps. But for obvious reasons, I do like to keep temps as low as possible (like to see mine at 27C idle and have). Another reason I overclock NOTHING. Tho, with Turboboost re this chip, no need.

Also, your cpu is a bit old, the newer chips run cooler.

I choose systems---all Optiplex MTs, first based on the chip. This was no exception, I only get used in perfect condition, then I upgrade and fiddle. I know all about this chip, this socket, this everything.....I don care re the age/generation of a chip, I care about the benchmarks and my needs as an individual. Sandy and Ivy were already out when I chose this.....I choose nothing arbitrarily, trust me. Believe it or not, people still buying this chip....and, for fairly serious money still.....and yes, LGA1156 obsolete socket. But, with SSD and mechanical backup, this system is beyond perfect for all my needs.

Thanks for yr input....I still have the urge to replace the paste....but I now think, to mitigate the helplessness generated by finding out about the NASA spy. I mean it. I felt I needed to do SOMETHING, even if unrelated ....and thing was, this was all I could think of.....but only when I saw the temps under load and I think, used that as an excuse.

K.....I am more chill now in the face of all this input from smart, and SANE (objective) humans; I will put my Arctic Silver 5 away.....well, for a WHILE.
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Edit: FYI, just found this on Amazon, recently guy bought one used for his older iMac. Never had a Mac, had no clue apple ever used this socket in a board, but the guy is right. Even used they still go for good money tho. Some newer Intel chips draw less power but still run hot.

5.0 out of 5 stars Good Buy for Extra Speed, December 26, 2014
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Verified Purchase(What's this?)
This review is from: Intel Core i7-870 Processor 2.93 GHz 8 MB Cache Socket LGA1156 (Electronics)
Really adds some speed to an older iMac. Put this in a mid-2010 27" iMac with a SSD, and it absolutely flies. Bought the CPU used, but was in great shape and have not had an issue yet. It has been installed for about 3 weeks now.

 

[ArisVer]

Also, your cpu is a bit old, the newer chips run cooler.

Since when newer chips run cooler?

 

[Virgorising]

Since when newer chips run cooler?

Well not sure re desktop chips, Geofelt said, tho, but the newest Broadwell chips for laptops are VERY CHILL. Compared to ALL that went before. And, not a moment too soon for all those into wafer thin lappys....and tablets with naturally, no fans.

But, for me, a good desktop and good phone (android) are all I need or ever will. No tablets for me....tho also could not live without a dedicated ebook reader.....also android.

Not to mention Intel chips can handle heat better than AMD. I like to see maybe unreasonably low temps. Bite me. I also enjoy replacing mobos. If I hadda do it for a living I doubt I would enjoy it as much, it would just get boring.

 

[Virgorising]

Holy Mutha of Intel CPUs!!!!!

Was just moved to search coolest running Intel desktop chips.....and LOOK WUT I FOUND!!!!!!! O M G.

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/two-ways-to-cool-down-your-defective-overheating-intel-cpu/

Hold on....I think I should have made this a new thread! In fact, I think I will.

(I did.)

 

[ArisVer]

The way I see the temperatures of the desktop CPUs is that they come alive at 40 (idle), ranging to 60-65 for ordinary work (which actually varies between users), and usually around 80 under heavy load. Always has been like that since Pentium III.

 

[Virgorising]

The way I see the temperatures of the desktop CPUs is that they come alive at 40 (idle), ranging to 60-65 for ordinary work (which actually varies between users), and usually around 80 under heavy load. Always has been like that since Pentium III.

The way you see it is accurate. But the desire to replace my paste remains.
For reasons I now get are complex.

Who knows if while my temps are slightly higher than once but still OK is because my paste is sound or in spite of that it might not be?:|