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Reparations bill wins new momentum in Congress

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The study would have more merit if it examines the impact of systemic racism on various ethnic groups. The largest mass lynching in American history was against Italians.
 
Starbuck1975 said:
The study would have more merit if it examines the impact of systemic racism on various ethnic groups. The largest mass lynching in American history was against Italians.
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There’s no way to fairly do reparations for systemic racism. I agree with the poster who said ensure a viable safety net that benefits all, including minorities, and there ya go.
 
HomerJS said:
Explain how the word “reparations” is racist.
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I don’t think it in and of itself is racist, but it will definitely split American society apart and greatly increase racial tensions. It’s not a way forward. People want to keep reintroducing race into everything, building systematic things that involve race. Check this box if you’re black and then you get x. That’s systematic racism. We need to move past that, eliminate race from government entirely. Provide a net for everyone and move forward.
 
Starbuck1975 said:
The study would have more merit if it examines the impact of systemic racism on various ethnic groups. The largest mass lynching in American history was against Italians.
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I think most folks believe the total number is more important than any single daily record.

Nice diversion anyway.

How many Italian American churches were burned to the ground lately?
 
feralkid said:
I think most folks believe the total number is more important than any single daily record.

Nice diversion anyway.

How many Italian American churches were burned to the ground lately?
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Irrelevant. We should as a society acknowledge and address all race or culture based grievances. That daily record is representative of wider discrimination.
 
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zinfamous said:
what a profound ignorance of Reconstruction and later Jim Crow official policy from the Feds, the States, Banks and other institutions that specifically targeted blacks for decades, actual slaves or not. It's a blatant, open crime that this country perpetrated against a specific racial demographic in the country for generations. Those effects absolutely extend for generations beyond their operative policy.
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So what do you propose for the American Holocaust?
 
UglyCasanova said:
I don’t think it in and of itself is racist, but it will definitely split American society apart and greatly increase racial tensions. It’s not a way forward. People want to keep reintroducing race into everything, building systematic things that involve race. Check this box if you’re black and then you get x. That’s systematic racism. We need to move past that, eliminate race from government entirely. Provide a net for everyone and move forward.
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Define "x".
 
zinfamous said:
what a profound ignorance of Reconstruction and later Jim Crow official policy from the Feds, the States, Banks and other institutions that specifically targeted blacks for decades, actual slaves or not. It's a blatant, open crime that this country perpetrated against a specific racial demographic in the country for generations. Those effects absolutely extend for generations beyond their operative policy.
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I haven't looked at the article yet to see its exact wording, but if the article is trying to talk about post-abolishment laws and actions that worked to keep minorities down, then it might be a bit better to say that it's reparations for segregatory practices rather than slavery.

Now, as I perused this thread, some of the remarks that you're talking about came to mind. Frankly, if someone were to do something like this, I'd rather see it for something like redlining rather than slavery as the prior has had a stronger effect on disenfranchising our current population. It's not to say that the latter has had no effect at all, but I guess I'd say it's more of a direct effect vs. an indirect effect? Although, one thing that comes to mind is... if we're talking about redlining, should the American government be responsible for the actions of the unaffiliated banks?
 
Holy wow... I thought the Simpsons were more of a cultural touchstone than that...


Or is it that you both are literally hundreds of years old?
 
OP's post is an extremely gross overstatement and exaggeration. This is NOT a reparations bill, it is a bill to create a study about reparations.

As we all know, one thing Washington is extremely good at is forming committees and doing studies that go nowhere.
 
Thump553 said:
OP's post is an extremely gross overstatement and exaggeration. This is NOT a reparations bill, it is a bill to create a study about reparations.

As we all know, one thing Washington is extremely good at is forming committees and doing studies that go nowhere.
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I never said it was anything but a study. But passing this, engaging in the conversation, floating it out there as a possibility is pandering for votes from minority’s because the candidates know it won’t happen (so it’s essentially lying) and its a conversation that will hurt them with the bulk of Americans. It will be used against them in the general.
 
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