repairing toilet .. the tank doesn't refill

[Sid59]

suggestions? i tried a few google sites and not much as worked.

after a flush, the tank will not refill. The chain connecting to the lever is good. i see no worn out material.

the toilet does flush. i've filled it up the tank and let it flush through. It flushes well and hard. The tank just doesn't fill and neither does the bowl.

thanks.

 

[dman]

[edit] I assume you replaced the guts and it didn't start working again, but, if it just suddenly stopped...]: assume you've checked and turned the water back on at the valve... (usually just below the tank).

if so, really I think only one other thing that controls the filling, that being the float, make sure it's not adjusted too high. [or as others said, if the flap is stuck open, water will keep flowing but neither the tank ot the toilet will fill, so, you might need to close the flap manually and possibly even replace it if it's broken/cut/etc]

IANAP so I may be missing something. Maybe this will help, howstuffworks link... (See page 4 the refill mechanism).

 

[HappyPuppy]

After flushing does water run into the tank?

 

[Jzero]

Does the water run? or does it just drain and that's it?
If the water is running, is the "flapper" stuck open? Sometimes the chain that hooks the flapper to the flusher gets a Chinese Person (language filter won't let me use ch1nk haha) and it gets stuck open.

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

If water is running in the tank, then the little flap that covers the drain hole is not forming a good seal. See if the chain is hung up or kinked, or replace the flapper.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Refill mechanism

Press the "Click to flush" button to see it animated.

 

[OutHouse]

turn the water back on??

 

[TGregg]

You've got one of two different problems. Either the water is not getting into the tank, or it's leaking out into the bowl (or both). To check if it's leaking, you can put some food coloring in the bottom of the tank, and see if leaks into the bowl (that's the high tech way). The low tech way is to listen - if you hear water running, and the tank is not filling up, the water must be going someplace, almost certainly into the bowl (unless it's leaking onto the floor ). Take a look at how the big rubber flap fits on that big hole in the bottom center of the tank. Maybe some debris got in there so it doesn't seat correctly.

The other problem is caused by some sort of faulty cutoff. When the toilet is flushed, water leaves the tank and enters the bowl. There is a big ol' switch almost always controled by a big ol plastic ball for a floater. When it gets high enough, the toilet "thinks" the tank is full, and cuts off the water. Check and make sure that all works. There's plenty of ways to adjust it, and it's pretty basic.

The other cutoff problem (that is more common actually) is that the cutoff is *not* working, the tank keeps filling, and the overfill flows into the bowl. Usually that is caused by a leaky float (it fills with water, and won't shut the intake off). But I don't think that is your problem - you should still be able to flush the toilet in that case.

 

[dman]

Originally posted by: TGregg
The other cutoff problem (that is more common actually) is that the cutoff is *not* working, the tank keeps filling, and the overfill flows into the bowl. Usually that is caused by a leaky float (it fills with water, and won't shut the intake off). But I don't think that is your problem - you should still be able to flush the toilet in that case.

Agreed, since he said the tank isn't filling either. But I think we've covered the options, now Sid has to let us know what the problem is/was.

 

[Sid59]

- i haven't replaced any parts of the toilet
- the tank and the bowl do not refill
- water does not run. after the flushing of the bowl, nothing happens
- valve for water is OPEN
- no water leaking
- i used it this morning .. i started on cooking food and my brother told me the tank isn't refilling


from the site:

Once the tank has emptied, the flush valve resituates itself in the bottom of the tank, covering the drain hole so the tank can be refilled. It is the job of the refill mechanism to fill the tank back up with enough water to start the whole process again.

the seal covers and never had a problem. *** still the water is not refilling ***

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: Sid59
- i haven't replaced any parts of the toilet
- the tank and the bowl do not refill
- water does not run. after the flushing of the bowl, nothing happens
- valve for water is OPEN
- no water leaking
- i used it this morning .. i started on cooking food and my brother told me the tank isn't refilling


from the site:

Once the tank has emptied, the flush valve resituates itself in the bottom of the tank, covering the drain hole so the tank can be refilled. It is the job of the refill mechanism to fill the tank back up with enough water to start the whole process again.

the seal covers and never had a problem. *** still the water is not refilling ***

If water does nor run @ all, there's a problem with the filler valve/float mechanism. Should cost less then $10 @ a local home supply store. I just rebuilt ours last week, simple stuff

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

did your water get turned off by the city? you really should pay your bills!


j/k

 

[GRIFFIN1]

$7.97 at home depot. Search for 501581

 

[TGregg]

Originally posted by: Sid59
- i haven't replaced any parts of the toilet
- the tank and the bowl do not refill
- water does not run. after the flushing of the bowl, nothing happens
- valve for water is OPEN
- no water leaking

. . .

the seal covers and never had a problem. *** still the water is not refilling ***

Well, if the tank is empty and the water is not running, then either the valve that lets the water into the tank is improperly closed, or else you have no water piped up to the tank. I'm not sure what "valve for water is OPEN" refers to, but if it refers to the shutoff where the water enters the tank, then you've got some weird problem, like water pressure, blocked pipe, and/or faulty valve someplace other than the toilet. And it's gonna be way beyond me to diagnose.

It's much more likely that the problem is that the tank mechanism does not remove the shutoff for the water intake into the tank. If this is the case, I suggest you buy one of those swell kits at Home Depot or Lowe's. I've never used one of those, however. Good luck.

 

[Sid59]

eh .. my a family friend came by as "repayment" for always fixing his boink'ed computer.

said some of the parts weren't working and adjusted the float ... all works well.

thanks for the insight.

 

[Pliablemoose]

You suck @ fixing things...

 

[Sid59]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
You suck @ fixing things...

i tried. it's a fair trade off. i installed his software .. he fixed the toilet.

he touched and fondled the toilet .. i hit a few keyboard keys.

i win.