Rep. John Lewis vs. PEOTUS Don Trump

[HomerJS]

Lewis has every right to criticize Trump's legitimacy.

However, Lewis isn't above rebuke or response just because he marched at Selma. Lewis entered the field of battle with Trump. He is going to get a response.

Outrage not found.

Maybe your ONF would have standing if there were any level of fact in Trump's attack. Trump never met a fact he liked.

I looked up stats on Lewis's district and Trump got that wrong also.

 

[brycejones]

Maybe your ONF would have standing if there were any level of fact in Trump's attack. Trump never met a fact he liked.

I looked up stats on Lewis's district and Trump got that wrong also.

Once again Trump equated black with crime and poverty living in failed communities.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

So the 200% increase in homicides last summer in Atlanta doesn't count.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Maybe your ONF would have standing if there were any level of fact in Trump's attack. Trump never met a fact he liked.

I looked up stats on Lewis's district and Trump got that wrong also.

I never claimed that Trump was correct. As you pointed out, Lewis' district is in better shape than the parts of Atlanta that Trump probably had in mind.

ONF in the sense that some are invoking his status as a civil rights icon as being at all relevant to his statement or Trump's rebuttal. It's not.

Does Lewis' status as an icon place him above criticism, or put another way, why would or should Trump treat him with any less disrespect than he has with anyone else he's feuded with?

 

[brycejones]

So the 200% increase in homicides last summer in Atlanta doesn't count.

Are those the stats from the congressman's district? Because the Donald was very specific:
"Congressman John Lewis should spend more time on fixing and helping his district, which is in horrible shape and falling apart"

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Are those the stats from the congressman's district?

It"s from Atlanta which is part of his district.

 

[brycejones]

It"s from Atlanta which is part of his district.

Congressman John Lewis should spend more time on fixing and helping his district, which is in horrible shape and falling apart

That is what the Donald said specifically. So I ask again is the congressman's district in horrible shape and falling apart? You should be able to answer this without saying Atlanta which has several congressional districts. Just own it the guy assumed a black congressman represented a blighted crime ridden area.

 

[fskimospy]

So the 200% increase in homicides last summer in Atlanta doesn't count.

Lol, nice cherry picking.

If you think a homicide increase in Atlanta last summer counts against Lewis then what do you think about the fact that homicides in Atlanta are somewhere around half what they were when he took office?

Let me guess. That doesn't count.

 

[fskimospy]

Congressman John Lewis should spend more time on fixing and helping his district, which is in horrible shape and falling apart

That is what the Donald said specifically. So I ask again is the congressman's district in horrible shape and falling apart? You should be able to answer this without saying Atlanta which has several congressional districts. Just own it the guy assumed a black congressman represented a blighted crime ridden area.

I find it pretty funny that he calls the guy who was arrested 45 times fighting for African American rights all talk and no action when all Trump is known for is talking while his amazing business skill turned his dad's connections and vast fortune into sub market level returns. Nice action, Donald! Lol.

Oh yeah and while Lewis was being arrested Trump was trying to find a way to keep them out of his buildings. Sad!

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Woe, look at them spew the talking points. I can always tell what's going to be posted in here from looking what's being said at DailyKOS

HomerJS claimed the stats showed nothing yet there was an increase in crime the past summer

 

[fskimospy]

Woe, look at them spew the talking points. I can always tell what's going to be posted in here from looking what's being said at DailyKOS

HomerJS claimed the stats showed nothing yet there was an increase in crime the past summer

Wow, look at you try and deflect from saying something stupid. If Lewis is to blame for a homicide increase last summer then why is he not credited with a much larger homicide decrease overall? Simple question.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Wow, look at you try and deflect from saying something stupid. If Lewis is to blame for a homicide increase last summer then why is he not credited with a much larger homicide decrease overall? Simple question.

Never blamed him for the increase, just stated there had been an increase.

 

[MongGrel]

Woe, look at them spew the talking points. I can always tell what's going to be posted in here from looking what's being said at DailyKOS

HomerJS claimed the stats showed nothing yet there was an increase in crime the past summer

Facts > pulling BS out of thin air used to be a thing I guess.

 

[brycejones]

HomerJS claimed the stats showed nothing yet there was an increase in crime the past summer

Was there a crime increase in his district specifically? Stats for the entire city of Atlanta don't count.

 

[fskimospy]

Never blamed him for the increase, just stated there had been an increase.

Got it, so we agree it's a stupid thing for Trump to have said as 1) it has nothing to do with him and 2) if it did he should be getting credit, not being attacked considering the history.

Glad we sorted this out!

 

[Londo_Jowo]

So Congressmen should ignore what's occurring in their district. Got it.

If crime was getting worse where I live I would expect to see my local represntation including my Congressman to get involved.

 

[brycejones]

So Congressmen should ignore what's occurring in their district. Got it.

If crime was getting worse where I live I would expect to see my local represntation including my Congressman to get involved.

Now you are arguing with the voices in your head.

 

[Commodus]

Isn't this all beside the point? Trump, as usual, made false allegations against someone simply because they dared to criticize him. This time he made the mistake of trying to smear someone whose integrity is so far above his that it's almost comical. And on MLK Day weekend, no less.

 

[fskimospy]

So Congressmen should ignore what's occurring in their district. Got it.

If crime was getting worse where I live I would expect to see my local represntation including my Congressman to get involved.

You're the one who said it didn't have anything to do with him, not me. Now you're trying to have it both ways. (And on what basis are you saying he isn't involved?)

This is super simple: if you want to slam him for a recent increase then you have to credit him for the past decreases if you want to remain logically consistent.

Do you?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Who gives a fuck? Trump's fucked prime pussy and made more money than Lewis would ever know what to do with. Trump's bio will be written in books by the thousands while Lewis will have a handful. Lewis isn't shit compared to our next President and he just got smacked as bad as the little chihuahua from CNN.

goddamn, you're a shallow little fool.

 

[fskimospy]

Isn't this all beside the point? Trump, as usual, made false allegations against someone simply because they dared to criticize him. This time he made the mistake of trying to smear someone whose integrity is so far above his that it's almost comical. And on MLK Day weekend, no less.

This is a good point. We all already know that Trump will try to smear anyone who attacks him without any consideration for the truth or accuracy of what he's saying. In many ways even bothering to show that what he's said is an easily debunked lie gives him more credit than he deserves.

It's been pretty illuminating to see just how much of people's opinions are dominated by partisanship and not facts though. If the evil, hated liberals are arguing against it then they have to argue for it!

 

[Starbuck1975]

This is a good point. We all already know that Trump will try to smear anyone who attacks him without any consideration for the truth or accuracy of what he's saying. In many ways even bothering to show that what he's said is an easily debunked lie gives him more credit than he deserves.

It's been pretty illuminating to see just how much of people's opinions are dominated by partisanship and not facts though. If the evil, hated liberals are arguing against it then they have to argue for it!

Some would argue that questioning the legitimacy of a President-elect is a smear, although Lewis certainly has the right to make that case if he so chooses.

I think what is most frustrating for the left is that they've constructed certain third rails within the context of shaping political dialogue. Yet those rules don't seem to apply to Trump. He keep doubling down and stepping even further onto that third rail with every Tweet. Far greater men have been taken down for doing or saying far less than Trump.

I will never support what Trump says.

I do enjoy watching him change the rules of the game, and find it curious that he of all people figured out how to do it

 

[Commodus]

Some would argue that questioning the legitimacy of a President-elect is a smear, although Lewis certainly has the right to make that case if he so chooses.

I think what is most frustrating for the left is that they've constructed certain third rails within the context of shaping political dialogue. Yet those rules don't seem to apply to Trump. He keep doubling down and stepping even further onto that third rail with every Tweet. Far greater men have been taken down for doing or saying far less than Trump.

I will never support what Trump says.

I do enjoy watching him change the rules of the game, and find it curious that he of all people figured out how to do it

The frustrating part is that Trump isn't even all that smart about it. He really does come across as a 12-year-old in a 70-year-old's body: he feels he has the right to do anything he wants, and his strategy when caught doing something wrong is to fling childish insults at whoever attacked him. It's not Machiavellian -- it's the political equivalent of shouting "I know what you are, but what am I?"

 

[HomerJS]

I never claimed that Trump was correct. As you pointed out, Lewis' district is in better shape than the parts of Atlanta that Trump probably had in mind.

ONF in the sense that some are invoking his status as a civil rights icon as being at all relevant to his statement or Trump's rebuttal. It's not.

Does Lewis' status as an icon place him above criticism, or put another way, why would or should Trump treat him with any less disrespect than he has with anyone else he's feuded with?

Lewis is not immune from criticism. Trump ignited this illegitimate turd pile all the Russian connections and Trump love for Putin makes Lewis claim more viable.

If Trump can set the standard he can live by it.

 

[HomerJS]

goddamn, you're a shallow little fool.

actually his foolishness runs deep