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Rep (cold cash) Jefferson reelected by N.O. voters

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Originally posted by: Shivetya
it is simple really.

Some people cannot vote for anyone but of their party affiliation. Hateful as it may seem to say but blacks are brainwashed the worst. We have a number of examples at work whose own professed values are nearly diametrically opposed to those they vote for, but they won't vote otherwise.

ingrained behaviour is the hardest to overcome
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Umm, this was a runoff? They could have voted for the other Dem?
Don't let that get in the way of your ignorance though?
 
Originally posted by: Craig234
daniel49, this was an act by the voters, not by the democratic party. Stop the lies and get out of your hyper-partisanship.

I think it is an indictment on the flaws in our system, including the power given to the wealthy interests to let them have a huge advantage from money, not specific to either party (what is specific is the republicans' extreme exploitation of the flaws, utterly selling out the American people, while democrats tend to compromise only as much as 'needed'.

It's the republicans breaking new ground with the K Street project and skyrocketing the costs of elections, embracing the role of money as they try to use it for advantage over dems.)
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This is not an act by the democratic party? Are you nuts? Where was the party to step in and push him out? Nowhere! that's where, they only cared about re-election and knew he was the best shot.
 
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: Craig234
daniel49, this was an act by the voters, not by the democratic party. Stop the lies and get out of your hyper-partisanship.

I think it is an indictment on the flaws in our system, including the power given to the wealthy interests to let them have a huge advantage from money, not specific to either party (what is specific is the republicans' extreme exploitation of the flaws, utterly selling out the American people, while democrats tend to compromise only as much as 'needed'.

It's the republicans breaking new ground with the K Street project and skyrocketing the costs of elections, embracing the role of money as they try to use it for advantage over dems.)
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This is not an act by the democratic party? Are you nuts? Where was the party to step in and push him out? Nowhere! that's where, they only cared about re-election and knew he was the best shot.
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Yet another person that knows little about what happened in NO . . . yet wants to talk about what happened in NO. Read . . . if you can . . . the link provided in the OP. It's not even the most detailed account of the run-off but there's enough information to make it clear to all but the most obtuse. The meager 28% of registered voters that gave a flip during the primary was reduced to a ridiculous 15% during the run-off. Here's an idea . . . maybe the Republicans should have had a candidate in the district?!

As for Party politics . . . when Jefferson's office was searched . . . it was Speaker Hastert to his defense, while Pelosi dropped him from Ways and Means.
 
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc

The only indication that Jefferson has significant support within the Democratic Party is the intellectually-challenged that frequent Faux News and talk radio.
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BFT
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Having said all that . . . the voters should be ashamed of voting for this guy. Only the most horrid of partisan hacks could possibly justify it. Curiously, such characters in one party voted for him, while their counterparts in the other are pretending he has broad support.
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Re-election and still in office is not broad support? It?s broad enough, apparently.
 
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: Craig234
daniel49, this was an act by the voters, not by the democratic party. Stop the lies and get out of your hyper-partisanship.

I think it is an indictment on the flaws in our system, including the power given to the wealthy interests to let them have a huge advantage from money, not specific to either party (what is specific is the republicans' extreme exploitation of the flaws, utterly selling out the American people, while democrats tend to compromise only as much as 'needed'.

It's the republicans breaking new ground with the K Street project and skyrocketing the costs of elections, embracing the role of money as they try to use it for advantage over dems.)
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So that's how you handle corrupt Dems eh? Everyone remotely associated must be attacked/removed when it's a Republican, but on the other side of the isle you turn the subject onto something else.

THAT is vile partisanship, we want all of them removed Rep and Dem alike, you defend your party and change the subject explicitly to assault Reps.
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This is typical Craig. "4 legs good, 2 legs bad."

I love his response: blame the voters, praise the party, as though the party had nothing to do with the re-election campaign.
 
Hey guys, notice how the Democrats didn't actually throw their support behind one candidate. Instead there was a runoff. The voters (18% of them) chose Jefferson. You can bet that Jefferson won't be doing anything important anytime soon since Pelosi is now in office and Hastert isn't. So you can blame the Jefferson election on the idiots who voted for him, instead of trying (and failing) to paint the entire Democratic party as now corrupt because one candidate whom they didn't support was elected by morons.

Nice try, but you're not really fooling anyone. I doubt you'll be fooling anyone for a long time.
 
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Louisiana is a bunch of hicks.. do you expect anything more?
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WHOA there buddy! That's quite uncalled for. I have lived in Louisiana all my life. I am not now, nor have I ever been a "hick." Yes, we have our fair share of hicks, rednecks, and general dumba##es - just like all 49 other states. Hicks, rednecks, and dumba##es are everywhere. They may look and sound different, but they are there none the less.

Regarding Louisiana politics: yes, our politics are very colorful. Politics is a spectator sport in Louisiana. It is shameful that some of our citizens are stupid enough to elect the obviously guilty. But then, it seems that a certain northeastern state's voters keep electing a drunken lout, er I mean senator who was significantly responsible in someone's DEATH. I don't hear anyone calling THEM hicks.

"Dirty politicians and stupid voters" is a theme which reverberates throughout this great land of ours. Yes, our system is frequently corrupt and broken. However, I defy you to find a better one on this planet.

The solution is for the voters to care enough to make an informed choice on election day. However, that makes two fatal suppositions: a) that enough people give enough of a hoot to actually go and vote and b) that those same people will take the time necessary to find and learn unbiased material about the candidates/issues. Nice theory. Reality is that most folks are too busy with raising kids, working, and generally getting on with their lives. That's not an excuse, merely an explanation.

As for New Orleans and the special breed of dumba##es contained therein: that place is a cancer on our state. One elected official has been quoted as saying what many folks here (myself included) and throughout the country believe: "Katrina was God's urban renewal plan."

So before you go painting with too broad a brush, just remember: there, but by the Grace of God, go YOU.

And in case you are interested, I am registered independent. I research the candidates and vote for the one regardless of party whom I deem best qualified to do the job.
 
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Louisiana is a bunch of hicks.. do you expect anything more?
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This wasn't in the 'Sticks' - it was in a New Orleans Metro area, Locals Only an d the interesting twist is that
the minority voter that had been displaced and failed to return was dominated by a Caucasian sector that
did not trust the FBI and it's operations under the control of the GOP and the Bush Administration.

It came down to who do you trust - a local who suddenly has an ethics 'issue', there have been no personal
indictments or Grand Jury presentations, and all of the 'stuff' is as listed by a branch of the Fed's with a suspect history.

People have given up on the present Administration and it's subsequent flawed governance.

Do YOU trust the DOJ under Bush?
 
Originally posted by: Aisengard
Hey guys, notice how the Democrats didn't actually throw their support behind one candidate. Instead there was a runoff. The voters (18% of them) chose Jefferson. You can bet that Jefferson won't be doing anything important anytime soon since Pelosi is now in office and Hastert isn't. So you can blame the Jefferson election on the idiots who voted for him, instead of trying (and failing) to paint the entire Democratic party as now corrupt because one candidate whom they didn't support was elected by morons.

Nice try, but you're not really fooling anyone. I doubt you'll be fooling anyone for a long time.
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He didn't get 18%. He got the majority of 15%.
 
Unless you are from or have recently lived in the region, don't pretend to understand the bizarre dynamics of Louisiana politics in general and New Orleans politics in particular. A VERY good local perspective can be found here:
LINK

The locals in this case had a hard choice: a known crook (Jefferson) for as little as a few months (until he hopefully gets convicted or at least run out of congress), or a lesser known crook (Carter) for a much longer time - conceivably years. Add to that the fact that Louisiana's nearly unique open primary system is what allowed this situation to happen. The good news is that has finally bitten the dust. Starting with the 2008 Federal election cycle, we will return to a traditional closed primary wherein the top Dem faces the top Rep and any independents who poll above a certain percentage. Then, in theory at least, the choices become a bit clearer.

If only the Libertarians would field a candidate that is: a) electable, and b) NOT a total nutjob...
 
Here is Shreveport Louisiana, Joe Shyne was just elected to the city council. He was on the council before, but he was sent to prison for a year for taking bribes while he was on the council in 1994. He got a pardon from the Governor, and now he is back on the council. I'm sure that year in prison was enough for him to learn his lesson about taking bribes.
 
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