Renters insurance. Anyone have it?

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2Xtreme21

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I am in my mid 30's and I have had a couple homes and many apartments. Never had/used renters insurance and i am doing the electrical work in my new place and even some in my old place.
Let alone i take care of my place and am not a idiot like you and others seem to be that can;t be bothered to turn the stove off or some other idiot move.

I'm gonna laugh when some drunk driver plows into the side of your house. But that won't happen, because you're smart enough to construct your dwelling in an area where no one drinks and accidents don't happen.

Shit, I think I might've found your house!

Too bad none of us are as lucky as you!
 

IEC

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Never had it never needed it. But I also did not live in the ghetto.

So if you live in a bad place then maybe worth it. Or take the money you spend on insurance and move to a better place.

I got a multi-line discount for adding a renter's policy - so my net cost for the year is $6. Worth it, even if I already live in a nice area it's good for peace of mind.
 

Vette73

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I'm gonna laugh when some drunk driver plows into the side of your house. But that won't happen, because you're smart enough to construct your dwelling in an area where no one drinks and accidents don't happen.

Shit, I think I might've found your house!

Too bad none of us are as lucky as you!

Well there is a HUGH oak tree in my front yard, fire hydrant on the other side, and a ditch with a couple foot drop off for water running before that. let alone my road leads to a dead end and no room to get up to speed.

And of course DD run into house's so often here... oh wait.

Damm yall sound like a bunch of insurance sales men. Do I also need robot insurance to protect me from robots? :awe:
 
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So in real world terms there is less then 1% chance of fire and i am betting even more less chance when you take into account my wiring is above what the NEC calls for and I am not a idiot that leaves my stove on etc... Probable a better chance of a meteorite hitting my house. ;)

There were 128,203,000 housing units in the United States in 2007
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/housing/ahs/ahsfaq.html


So maybe you need to get educated first.
There is a reason insruance compnaies love pushing this stuff. It rarly has claims and then they just fight you on it if more then a couple trickle in that period.

Okay, so it sounds like you own a home then am I correct? Do you have homeowners insurance? If you're required to for your mortgage, if that were paid off and it wasn't required of you then would you have homeowners insurance on your home?

So, there is a 1% chance of fire in the US. What about lightning strikes/floods/rain damage/wind damage/other weather related events? What about if you have somebody at your house that gets hurt and they sue? You're so rich I'm going to assume you can just pay their medical bills and pay them a lump sum if they sue you.

I am currently an underwriter, so I deal with risks every day. I also used to take inbound first notice of loss calls for home and auto claims. Guess what? There are many other causes of losses then fires.
 

KentState

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I know the renters insurance that I have covers things like hotel costs if we are put out because of fire, flood, or other natural disaster, emergencies while on vacation, among the standard things.
 

amdhunter

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I'm an insurance writer for home/renters and auto, and have renters as well.

Does the adjuster need to come verify I have all this crap since I don't have any receipts for anything?

No, with some exceptions to that. For 99% of that stuff is not going to need anybody to inspect it or anything. Now there are some things that will need appraised to verify it for the insured amount. These are going to be special property protection (SPP) items that have a rider that explicitly insures that for x amount and is not factored into the total (an earlier poster said he had $50k insurance, which means that it's $50k+riders). You will pay more for this, and it's generally only done for things like wedding rings and things like that.

Does it cover accidental damage to items? For example, if I slam my TV with my Wii controller, will they cover it?

Depends on the company, how the policy is written, and if you really want to file a claim for it. For example, if a guest accidently throws the remote into the TV then it will usually be covered. You will have to pay your deductible though which is generally $500 (but varies for every policy, lower deductibles mean higher monthly payments), and it could raise your rates. So, is it worth it to file a claim for a $1000 tv when you have to pay $500 and it could affect your future premiums? That's your decision.

FYI renters policies generally cover any personal property that is inside or outside the home. For example, your car gets stolen and you have a laptop and other property in the vehicle. This will require 2 claims be filed, one under auto insurance for your car, and the second under renters for the laptop and other property.

My dog is going to raise the insurance, isn't he? My parrot also attacks on command.

It will depend on the breed of dog for the most part. Generally "more aggressive" breeds (i.e. dogs that are bred to fight traditionally) are going to increase your rates. My dogs didn't increase my rates (an auss shep and white lab), but it depends on your state, the company it's with, and what breeds you have. I doubt the parrot will have any relevance to the policy. When signing up for it, just answer the questions and unless they ask "do you have a parrot that attacks on command?" or something like that then no need to bring it up.

Anyone know? I plan to do it through Geico.

Geico will work. If you have any questions feel free to ask.

What you should do, is take a pen and paper then go room to room writing down any of your expensive items that you would want replaced. Computers, clothes (most people forget to add this in, but most people have at minimum $500 worth of clothes and it's not uncommon for a few grand worth), electronics, kitchen stuff (dishes, pots/pans/etc), furniture (couches, beds, tables, dressers, etc), etc.

Also, ensure you have Replacement cost, not Acutal Cash Value. Replacement cost means they will give you the $ that it cost when you bought it, while ACV means they take the depriciated value of an item. ACV policies will take a $2,000 HDTV you bought 2 years ago and find the current market price for that item and give you that much (maybe $700?). Replacement cost will give you $2,000 for that HDTV.

None of this is meant as legal advice, nor offered as such. This is posted to help understand the way renters insurance works in general. I do not know your specifics, and this isn't any kind of consult or recommendation. Talk to a licensed agent in your city who can help you with specifics in your situation.

Thanks! Do you think there will be any issue with the apartment being under my brother's name?
 

KentState

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Okay, so it sounds like you own a home then am I correct? Do you have homeowners insurance? If you're required to for your mortgage, if that were paid off and it wasn't required of you then would you have homeowners insurance on your home?

So, there is a 1% chance of fire in the US. What about lightning strikes/floods/rain damage/wind damage/other weather related events? What about if you have somebody at your house that gets hurt and they sue? You're so rich I'm going to assume you can just pay their medical bills and pay them a lump sum if they sue you.

I am currently an underwriter, so I deal with risks every day. I also used to take inbound first notice of loss calls for home and auto claims. Guess what? There are many other causes of losses then fires.

Don't bother reasoning with him, he's either trolling or purposely ignorant and nothing will change that.
 

Vette73

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Okay, so it sounds like you own a home then am I correct? Do you have homeowners insurance? If you're required to for your mortgage, if that were paid off and it wasn't required of you then would you have homeowners insurance on your home?

So, there is a 1% chance of fire in the US. What about lightning strikes/floods/rain damage/wind damage/other weather related events? What about if you have somebody at your house that gets hurt and they sue? You're so rich I'm going to assume you can just pay their medical bills and pay them a lump sum if they sue you.

I am currently an underwriter, so I deal with risks every day. I also used to take inbound first notice of loss calls for home and auto claims. Guess what? There are many other causes of losses then fires.

HaHa!!! So you are in insurance and make money off it. Damm I called it above. :awe:

And no there is not a 1% chance of fire, but much LESS then a 1% chance. For a "underwriter" you sure are doing a bad job with facts.
 
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Thanks! Do you think there will be any issue with the apartment being under my brother's name?

Nope, shouldn't be.

My gf is the only person on the lease at our current apartment, but I have renters insurance at our address. My agent never asked if I was the person named on the lease.

Basically renters insurance covers any of your property that is inside the dwelling. The home itself is covered under landlords policies, but none of the contents are. That is the owners responsibility to insure their own property.
 

Vette73

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Don't bother reasoning with him, he's either trolling or purposely ignorant and nothing will change that.


Ignorant of what? facts? The facts are the chances of all the things Mr. Insurance salseman keeps putting out are near 0. There is a reason insurance compnaies make BILLIONS in profits every year.

They know most people suck at math. Call it the lottery theory.:awe:
 
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HaHa!!! So you are in insurance and make money off it. Damm I called it above. :awe:

And no there is not a 1% chance of fire, but much LESS then a 1% chance. For a "underwriter" you sure are doing a bad job with facts.

Point about me working in insurance is what exactly?

You stated there was a 1% chance (which is what I was referencing, and I just said 1% instead of using your exact quote) here:

So in real world terms there is less then 1% chance of fire and i am betting even more less chance when you take into account my wiring is above what the NEC calls for and I am not a idiot that leaves my stove on etc... Probable a better chance of a meteorite hitting my house. ;)
 
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Ignorant of what? facts? The facts are the chances of all the things Mr. Insurance salseman keeps putting out are near 0. There is a reason insurance compnaies make BILLIONS in profits every year.

They know most people suck at math. Call it the lottery theory.:awe:

Care to site a source for that?

I have no vested interest in you getting renters for yourself or not. Sure my company would earn an extra $100/year if, and that's a big if, you got it through us. Sorry, but there are many people who actually are intelligent enough to get insured out there to offset your $100/year.
 
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nanobreath

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Well there is a HUGE oak tree in my front yard, fire hydrant on the other side, and a ditch with a couple foot drop off for water running before that. let alone my road leads to a dead end and no room to get up to speed.

And of course DD run into house's so often here... oh wait.

Damm yall sound like a bunch of insurance sales men. Do I also need robot insurance to protect me from robots? :awe:

Never heard of trees and limbs falling down? Sure there are no tiny rodents or other animals that can chew your wires and expose the bare metal to increase chances of fire? Don't have gas in your house that can possibly leak and cause a fire?

There are a million fluke accidents that can happen. Yes they are fluke, nobody can predict them or see them coming. Yes they are rare, and do not happen to the majority of people. The money you are saving by not having insurance, are you spending it on other things or are you putting that aside as your own personal insurance against any accidents? Or do you have a lot of other savings you can rely on in case something happens? Are you really capable of handling the financial burden in the event something occurs?

If you have gone through this thought process and understand all the risks and are ready for them and then made the choice to not have insurance then good. You've done your due diligance. If you haven't and you're just rolling the dice and betting something will never happen to you without preparing for it, you are a fool.

Even if you have really prepared for all this, telling other people they are stupid for carrying the insurance really shows how much of a fool you are acting like. Telling somebody to not get the insurance because the chances of it happening to them is low, without giving them all the information to make an informed decision is idiotic.

Edit for typos.
 
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KentState

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Ignorant of what? facts? The facts are the chances of all the things Mr. Insurance salseman keeps putting out are near 0. There is a reason insurance compnaies make BILLIONS in profits every year.

They know most people suck at math. Call it the lottery theory.:awe:

They also pay out billions in claims each year. Shit happens and unless you have enough in savings to cover both the material goods and any damages that someone could sue for, you need some type of insurance.
 

Deeko

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What happens if there is a fire and all of your stuff is destroyed? Fires happen in nice areas too.

I read this and was going to sarcasticly reply "duh, didn't you know? Fires only happen in the ghetto"

Only fires in apartments i saw were in the ghetto and one in decent place were drugies where the neighbors said afterwards they knew what was going on but did not tell anybody.
When I had bad neighbors I complained.

....and then I saw this.


*sigh*
 

Vette73

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Vette73

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Point about me working in insurance is what exactly?

You stated there was a 1% chance (which is what I was referencing, and I just said 1% instead of using your exact quote) here:


No i did not say it was 1%, I said less then 1%. You then quote and highlight it but still can't even get it right.

WOW... You just keep failing and failing...
 

Vette73

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Never heard of trees and limbs falling down? Sure there are no tiny rodents or other animals that can chew your wires and expose the bare metal to increase chances of fire? Don't have gas in your house that can possibly leak and cause a fire?

There are a million fluke accidents that can happen. Yes they are fluke, nobody can predict them or see them coming. Yes they are rare, and do not happen to the majority of people. The money you are saving by not having insurance, are you spending it on other things or are you putting that aside as your own personal insurance against any accidents? Or do you have a lot of other savings you can rely on in case something happens? Are you really capable of handling the financial burden in the event something occurs?

If you have gone through this thought process and understand all the risks and are ready for them and then made the choice to not have insurance then good. You've done your due diligance. If you haven't and you're just rolling the dice and betting something will never happen to you without preparing for it, you are a fool.

Even if you have really prepared for all this, telling other people they are stupid for carrying the insurance really shows how much of a fool you are acting like. Telling somebody to not get the insurance because the chances of it happening to them is low, without giving them all the information to make an informed decision is idiotic.

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I cut down several trees on my property for rot, bad root system, etc...
That one has been trimmed and it is healthy and has not root issues. I give it at least 5 more good years. I do wood working and know what to look for in trees. Sometimes infections are good, figures the wood.

And where did i say people are stupid for carrying insurance? I said RI is a waste for most, and I am right. Now if you live in a poorer/cheaper place the chance of fire and other damage does increase. But I never had that issue as I was very picky where I lived in College and I take care of my home.
What i have said is you need to have insurance if you live in an environment where the risk is high enough to warrant. See poorer areas, flood zone, well tap (no good fire hydrants), etc...

I do love when people try and support their insurance someone sold them they will never use and have to save face when presented with the facts of potential risk for your need.
 

Deeko

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You sure are kicking and screaming a lot about not wanting to pay $50/year. Cite all the billion dollar profits you want, most of that is not coming from renters insurance....

Its like you're kicking and screaming that the internet provider industry is overpriced and gouges you....in a discussion about NetZero.
 

Deeko

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You sure are kicking and screaming a lot about not wanting to pay $50/year. Cite all the billion dollar profits you want, most of that is not coming from renters insurance....

Its like you're kicking and screaming that the internet provider industry is overpriced and gouges you....in a discussion about NetZero.

I take it back. NetZero costs twice as much as renters insurance.
 
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I cut down several trees on my property for rot, bad root system, etc...
That one has been trimmed and it is healthy and has not root issues. I give it at least 5 more good years. I do wood working and know what to look for in trees. Sometimes infections are good, figures the wood.

And where did i say people are stupid for carrying insurance? I said RI is a waste for most, and I am right. Now if you live in a poorer/cheaper place the chance of fire and other damage does increase. But I never had that issue as I was very picky where I lived in College and I take care of my home.
What i have said is you need to have insurance if you live in an environment where the risk is high enough to warrant. See poorer areas, flood zone, well tap (no good fire hydrants), etc...

I do love when people try and support their insurance someone sold them they will never use and have to save face when presented with the facts of potential risk for your need.

Does everybody *need* renters insurance? No, not everybody needs it. Will everybody have a loss while they rent? Nope. Do I think that most people should still have it? Yes. It's cheap as hell, and most people aren't able to deal with losing all they own due to a loss. No matter what either one of us says though, you'll still believe "the big bad insurance company is trying to take your money" and I'll still say that renters insurance is a good idea for everybody to have.

OP, if you have any questions feel free to ask.