Reno Vet Tears down flag

[Drift3r]

Let me see him do that at an Irish or Italian place of business oh right no one cares about that because it's okay to harass Hispanics in this country. Then again I can guarantee you the restaurant owner didn't know the flag laws just like the majority of folks in this nation am willing to bet. how many people do you see driving around with thrown up American flags on their cars? Worse yet how many people realize that the proper way to dispose of a American flag is to burn it? All this video was is someone trying to get 15 minutes of fame and drum up a sense of over exaggerated outrage.

 

[SSSnail]

FYI, I have served the country.

Yes you're partially right that a symbol is just that, but when it's the representative of a meaningful or spiritual idea, you better respect it. People have died for that "symbol" that you speak of, because they believe in what it stands for. When that happens, it becomes more than just a "symbol", as you have so nonchalantly put it.

You simply take your position and translate it to everyone elses, that vet actually DID something (chalk one more up for him DOING something), while you sit here and condemn his action. Shame on you.

To disrespect a national symbol and call it "free speech" is just plain ignorant.

Edit: And no, I don't have any bumper stickers.

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: SSSnail
FYI, I have served the country.

Yes you're partially right that a symbol is just that, but when it's the representative of a meaningful or spiritual idea, you better respect it. People have died for that "symbol" that you speak of, because they believe in what it stands for. When that happens, it becomes more than just a "symbol", as you have so nonchalantly put it.

You simply take your position and translate it to everyone elses, that vet actually DID something (chalk one more up for him DOING something), while you sit here and condemn his action. Shame on you.

To disrespect a national symbol and call it "free speech" is just plain ignorant.

Edit: And no, I don't have any bumper stickers.

You don't even know the intentions of the restaurant owner. You're just making false and illogical assumptions that the guy was somehow trying to show some disrespect without having any credible information to base it on.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: SSSnail
FYI, I have served the country.

Yes you're partially right that a symbol is just that, but when it's the representative of a meaningful or spiritual idea, you better respect it. People have died for that "symbol" that you speak of, because they believe in what it stands for. When that happens, it becomes more than just a "symbol", as you have so nonchalantly put it.

You simply take your position and translate it to everyone elses, that vet actually DID something (chalk one more up for him DOING something), while you sit here and condemn his action. Shame on you.

To disrespect a national symbol and call it "free speech" is just plain ignorant.

Edit: And no, I don't have any bumper stickers.

I can't tell if you are just trolling for argumentative responses, but the whole point of free speech is protection for saying things that other people don't want to hear. Why would popular speech need protection?

I'm allowed to disrespect a symbol you hold dear. You're allowed to call me on it and tell me what a lowlife you think I am. The right we both have to express our opinion is what you stood for when you served this country. Do you really want to live in a country where expressions of disrespect to the government result in punishment? That wouldn't be a free country.

 

[rpanic]

Rarely do I see a flag of another nation flying in front of a business or residence aside from countries south of the boarder and most of them are Mexican. Why don?t I see other countries flags, you would think that I would see Chinese flags all over a Chinese neighborhood they are the second largest immigrant group, but I have never seen one why is that? Maybe its because Chinese, and other groups are more respectful and think of themselves as Americans. Most of the time I see a Italian, Japanese, or any other flag in the US its on the wall inside of a restaurant.

Every Latino area I have ever drove through I have seen Mexican flags all over on cars, houses, and business because many of them are Mexican first and maybe if at all American second, are these just illegals doing this that I do not know?

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: rpanic
Rarely do I see a flag of another nation flying in front of a business or residence aside from countries south of the boarder and most of them are Mexican. Why don?t I see other countries flags, you would think that I would see Chinese flags all over a Chinese neighborhood they are the second largest immigrant group, but I have never seen one why is that? Maybe its because Chinese, and other groups are more respectful and think of themselves as Americans. Most of the time I see a Italian, Japanese, or any other flag in the US its on the wall inside of a restaurant.

Every Latino area I have ever drove through I have seen Mexican flags all over on cars, houses, and business because many of them are Mexican first and maybe if at all American second, are these just illegals doing this that I do not know?

Just because one group doesn't do it doesn't prohibit another from doing it. Your argument doesn't have any backing and is purely emotionally driven.

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: rpanic
Rarely do I see a flag of another nation flying in front of a business or residence aside from countries south of the boarder and most of them are Mexican. Why don?t I see other countries flags, you would think that I would see Chinese flags all over a Chinese neighborhood they are the second largest immigrant group, but I have never seen one why is that? Maybe its because Chinese, and other groups are more respectful and think of themselves as Americans. Most of the time I see a Italian, Japanese, or any other flag in the US its on the wall inside of a restaurant.

Maybe just maybe they don't like the Chinese communist flag hence why you'd never see it flown ever. I've seen a few Taiwanese flags flown though.

Every Latino area I have ever drove through I have seen Mexican flags all over on cars, houses, and business because many of them are Mexican first and maybe if at all American second, are these just illegals doing this that I do not know?

Can you generalize more? First of all not all Latinos are Mexican. I know it's hard to understand then again maybe you could care less to actually take into account this truth.

Second they are about as much Mexican as some people who fly their slap their Irish, Italian, etc... flags all over the place. If you ever been to the big city especially the east coast cities you'd understand then again you probably could care less just as long as they are white folks it's then excusable. It seems you just need something to make you angry and fill you with a false sense of outrage.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: rpanic
Rarely do I see a flag of another nation flying in front of a business or residence aside from countries south of the boarder and most of them are Mexican. Why don?t I see other countries flags, you would think that I would see Chinese flags all over a Chinese neighborhood they are the second largest immigrant group, but I have never seen one why is that? Maybe its because Chinese, and other groups are more respectful and think of themselves as Americans. Most of the time I see a Italian, Japanese, or any other flag in the US its on the wall inside of a restaurant.

Every Latino area I have ever drove through I have seen Mexican flags all over on cars, houses, and business because many of them are Mexican first and maybe if at all American second, are these just illegals doing this that I do not know?

Just because one group doesn't do it doesn't prohibit another from doing it. Your argument doesn't have any backing and is purely emotionally driven.

So? Can't we have opinions based on emnotions? It's pretty hard not to with the crap that's going on in regards to illegal immigration.

Mexican flag flies at U.S. post office. Old Glory stamped on in protest by backers of illegal immigration

Mexican President Felipe Calderon: ?Wherever There Is A Mexican, That Is Mexico?

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: rpanic
Rarely do I see a flag of another nation flying in front of a business or residence aside from countries south of the boarder and most of them are Mexican. Why don?t I see other countries flags, you would think that I would see Chinese flags all over a Chinese neighborhood they are the second largest immigrant group, but I have never seen one why is that? Maybe its because Chinese, and other groups are more respectful and think of themselves as Americans. Most of the time I see a Italian, Japanese, or any other flag in the US its on the wall inside of a restaurant.

Every Latino area I have ever drove through I have seen Mexican flags all over on cars, houses, and business because many of them are Mexican first and maybe if at all American second, are these just illegals doing this that I do not know?

Just because one group doesn't do it doesn't prohibit another from doing it. Your argument doesn't have any backing and is purely emotionally driven.

So? Can't we have opinions based on emnotions? It's pretty hard not to with the crap that's going on in regards to illegal immigration.

Mexican flag flies at U.S. post office. Old Glory stamped on in protest by backers of illegal immigration

Mexican President Felipe Calderon: ?Wherever There Is A Mexican, That Is Mexico?

You can have opinions but don't expect them to be taken as fact/truth. Now if you want to go off on a tangent do so in another thread. This isn't about illegal immigration but about some yahoo getting all upset over a self imposed sense of outrage. How many Americans fly tattered, torn, or faded flags and do not realize that this too is considered to be disrespectful ? How many do not realize that damaged or faded flags need to be burned when they are too be disposed? Not many I bet. What the vet in the video did was tantamount to theft of private property.

He used he "veteran" status to basically steal private property that did not belong to him over a perceived sense of disrespect. Of which no doubt had nothing to do with the American flag but was more about trying to cause a disturbance in order to try to bait a negative reaction out the restaurant owner. If he were truly concern about the American flag he could of at least informed the owner about the proper way to display it and allowed him to make the correct changes. He had no intention in doing so thus the false sense of outrage as crumpled up the restaurant owners American flag and walked away with it.

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: rpanic
Rarely do I see a flag of another nation flying in front of a business or residence aside from countries south of the boarder and most of them are Mexican. Why don?t I see other countries flags, you would think that I would see Chinese flags all over a Chinese neighborhood they are the second largest immigrant group, but I have never seen one why is that? Maybe its because Chinese, and other groups are more respectful and think of themselves as Americans. Most of the time I see a Italian, Japanese, or any other flag in the US its on the wall inside of a restaurant.

Every Latino area I have ever drove through I have seen Mexican flags all over on cars, houses, and business because many of them are Mexican first and maybe if at all American second, are these just illegals doing this that I do not know?

Just because one group doesn't do it doesn't prohibit another from doing it. Your argument doesn't have any backing and is purely emotionally driven.

So? Can't we have opinions based on emnotions? It's pretty hard not to with the crap that's going on in regards to illegal immigration.

Mexican flag flies at U.S. post office. Old Glory stamped on in protest by backers of illegal immigration

Mexican President Felipe Calderon: ?Wherever There Is A Mexican, That Is Mexico?

Nothing wrong with emotion and passion. I would just try to avoid allowing emotion to cloud your judgment of facts. Fact of the matter is, people are cheering vandalism for the sake of suppression of First Amendment rights. This is one of the most fundamental rights that we have and to so easily disregard it is sad. This one right is a huge factor of why the US is as great as it is and not a repressed society of sycophants.

 

[teclis1023]

Originally posted by: SSSnail
Screw you and your "free speech" crap.

Oh, the irony.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: rpanic
Rarely do I see a flag of another nation flying in front of a business or residence aside from countries south of the boarder and most of them are Mexican. Why don?t I see other countries flags, you would think that I would see Chinese flags all over a Chinese neighborhood they are the second largest immigrant group, but I have never seen one why is that? Maybe its because Chinese, and other groups are more respectful and think of themselves as Americans. Most of the time I see a Italian, Japanese, or any other flag in the US its on the wall inside of a restaurant.

Every Latino area I have ever drove through I have seen Mexican flags all over on cars, houses, and business because many of them are Mexican first and maybe if at all American second, are these just illegals doing this that I do not know?

Just because one group doesn't do it doesn't prohibit another from doing it. Your argument doesn't have any backing and is purely emotionally driven.

So? Can't we have opinions based on emnotions? It's pretty hard not to with the crap that's going on in regards to illegal immigration.

Mexican flag flies at U.S. post office. Old Glory stamped on in protest by backers of illegal immigration

Mexican President Felipe Calderon: ?Wherever There Is A Mexican, That Is Mexico?

You can have opinions but don't expect them to be taken as fact/truth. Now if you want to go off on a tangent do so in another thread. This isn't about illegal immigration but about some yahoo getting all upset over a self imposed sense of outrage. How many Americans fly tattered, torn, or faded flags and do not realize that this too is considered to be disrespectful ? How many do not realize that damaged or faded flags need to be burn when they are disposed What the vet in the video did was tantamount to theft of private property.

Sorry but from what I've read 85% of the Mexican population in the US is in this country illegally so it's next to immpossible to seperate one issue from the other. Another thing, don't try playing stupid with me. We both know why the bar owner put the Mexican flag above the US flag. He sure sat their dumbfounded when a patriotic vet came and rescued the US flag from it's position of inferiority, didn't he.

I have a strong feeling the next time he considers getting his jollies by disrespecting our flag he'll think twice.

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: rpanic
Rarely do I see a flag of another nation flying in front of a business or residence aside from countries south of the boarder and most of them are Mexican. Why don?t I see other countries flags, you would think that I would see Chinese flags all over a Chinese neighborhood they are the second largest immigrant group, but I have never seen one why is that? Maybe its because Chinese, and other groups are more respectful and think of themselves as Americans. Most of the time I see a Italian, Japanese, or any other flag in the US its on the wall inside of a restaurant.

Every Latino area I have ever drove through I have seen Mexican flags all over on cars, houses, and business because many of them are Mexican first and maybe if at all American second, are these just illegals doing this that I do not know?

Just because one group doesn't do it doesn't prohibit another from doing it. Your argument doesn't have any backing and is purely emotionally driven.

So? Can't we have opinions based on emnotions? It's pretty hard not to with the crap that's going on in regards to illegal immigration.

Mexican flag flies at U.S. post office. Old Glory stamped on in protest by backers of illegal immigration

Mexican President Felipe Calderon: ?Wherever There Is A Mexican, That Is Mexico?

You can have opinions but don't expect them to be taken as fact/truth. Now if you want to go off on a tangent do so in another thread. This isn't about illegal immigration but about some yahoo getting all upset over a self imposed sense of outrage. How many Americans fly tattered, torn, or faded flags and do not realize that this too is considered to be disrespectful ? How many do not realize that damaged or faded flags need to be burn when they are disposed What the vet in the video did was tantamount to theft of private property.

Sorry but from what I've read 85% of the Mexican population in the US is in this country illegally so it's next to immpossible to seperate one issue from the other.

List your sources then. Again Latinos are not all Mexicans and this thread had nothing to do with the issue.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: rpanic
Rarely do I see a flag of another nation flying in front of a business or residence aside from countries south of the boarder and most of them are Mexican. Why don?t I see other countries flags, you would think that I would see Chinese flags all over a Chinese neighborhood they are the second largest immigrant group, but I have never seen one why is that? Maybe its because Chinese, and other groups are more respectful and think of themselves as Americans. Most of the time I see a Italian, Japanese, or any other flag in the US its on the wall inside of a restaurant.

Every Latino area I have ever drove through I have seen Mexican flags all over on cars, houses, and business because many of them are Mexican first and maybe if at all American second, are these just illegals doing this that I do not know?

Just because one group doesn't do it doesn't prohibit another from doing it. Your argument doesn't have any backing and is purely emotionally driven.

So? Can't we have opinions based on emnotions? It's pretty hard not to with the crap that's going on in regards to illegal immigration.

Mexican flag flies at U.S. post office. Old Glory stamped on in protest by backers of illegal immigration

Mexican President Felipe Calderon: ?Wherever There Is A Mexican, That Is Mexico?

You can have opinions but don't expect them to be taken as fact/truth. Now if you want to go off on a tangent do so in another thread. This isn't about illegal immigration but about some yahoo getting all upset over a self imposed sense of outrage. How many Americans fly tattered, torn, or faded flags and do not realize that this too is considered to be disrespectful ? How many do not realize that damaged or faded flags need to be burn when they are disposed What the vet in the video did was tantamount to theft of private property.

Sorry but from what I've read 85% of the Mexican population in the US is in this country illegally so it's next to immpossible to seperate one issue from the other.

List your sources then. Again Latinos are not all Mexicans.

Now who's changing the subject.

I put the link in another thread here not too long ago, but don't feel like looking for it. I will say it's the only time I had ever seen that figure and don't know how accurate it is. If I find it i'll link it.

 

[rpanic]

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: rpanic
Rarely do I see a flag of another nation flying in front of a business or residence aside from countries south of the boarder and most of them are Mexican. Why don?t I see other countries flags, you would think that I would see Chinese flags all over a Chinese neighborhood they are the second largest immigrant group, but I have never seen one why is that? Maybe its because Chinese, and other groups are more respectful and think of themselves as Americans. Most of the time I see a Italian, Japanese, or any other flag in the US its on the wall inside of a restaurant.

Every Latino area I have ever drove through I have seen Mexican flags all over on cars, houses, and business because many of them are Mexican first and maybe if at all American second, are these just illegals doing this that I do not know?

Just because one group doesn't do it doesn't prohibit another from doing it. Your argument doesn't have any backing and is purely emotionally driven.

So? Can't we have opinions based on emnotions? It's pretty hard not to with the crap that's going on in regards to illegal immigration.

Mexican flag flies at U.S. post office. Old Glory stamped on in protest by backers of illegal immigration

Mexican President Felipe Calderon: ?Wherever There Is A Mexican, That Is Mexico?

You can have opinions but don't expect them to be taken as fact/truth. Now if you want to go off on a tangent do so in another thread. This isn't about illegal immigration but about some yahoo getting all upset over a self imposed sense of outrage. How many Americans fly tattered, torn, or faded flags and do not realize that this too is considered to be disrespectful ? How many do not realize that damaged or faded flags need to be burn when they are disposed What the vet in the video did was tantamount to theft of private property.

Sorry but from what I've read 85% of the Mexican population in the US is in this country illegally so it's next to immpossible to seperate one issue from the other.

List your sources then. Again Latinos are not all Mexicans and this thread had nothing to do with the issue.

I always hear Mexicans referring to themselves as Latinos and Hispanics.

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: rpanic
Rarely do I see a flag of another nation flying in front of a business or residence aside from countries south of the boarder and most of them are Mexican. Why don?t I see other countries flags, you would think that I would see Chinese flags all over a Chinese neighborhood they are the second largest immigrant group, but I have never seen one why is that? Maybe its because Chinese, and other groups are more respectful and think of themselves as Americans. Most of the time I see a Italian, Japanese, or any other flag in the US its on the wall inside of a restaurant.

Every Latino area I have ever drove through I have seen Mexican flags all over on cars, houses, and business because many of them are Mexican first and maybe if at all American second, are these just illegals doing this that I do not know?

Just because one group doesn't do it doesn't prohibit another from doing it. Your argument doesn't have any backing and is purely emotionally driven.

So? Can't we have opinions based on emnotions? It's pretty hard not to with the crap that's going on in regards to illegal immigration.

Mexican flag flies at U.S. post office. Old Glory stamped on in protest by backers of illegal immigration

Mexican President Felipe Calderon: ?Wherever There Is A Mexican, That Is Mexico?

You can have opinions but don't expect them to be taken as fact/truth. Now if you want to go off on a tangent do so in another thread. This isn't about illegal immigration but about some yahoo getting all upset over a self imposed sense of outrage. How many Americans fly tattered, torn, or faded flags and do not realize that this too is considered to be disrespectful ? How many do not realize that damaged or faded flags need to be burn when they are disposed What the vet in the video did was tantamount to theft of private property.

Sorry but from what I've read 85% of the Mexican population in the US is in this country illegally so it's next to immpossible to seperate one issue from the other.

List your sources then. Again Latinos are not all Mexicans.

Now who's changing the subject.

I put the link in another thread here not too long ago, but don't feel like looking for it. I will say it's the only time I had ever seen that figure and don't know how accurate it is. If I find it i'll link it.

I am not changing the issue I am just reinforcing this bit of fact. I'll wait for the link and check it out as soon as you post it.

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: rpanic
Rarely do I see a flag of another nation flying in front of a business or residence aside from countries south of the boarder and most of them are Mexican. Why don?t I see other countries flags, you would think that I would see Chinese flags all over a Chinese neighborhood they are the second largest immigrant group, but I have never seen one why is that? Maybe its because Chinese, and other groups are more respectful and think of themselves as Americans. Most of the time I see a Italian, Japanese, or any other flag in the US its on the wall inside of a restaurant.

Every Latino area I have ever drove through I have seen Mexican flags all over on cars, houses, and business because many of them are Mexican first and maybe if at all American second, are these just illegals doing this that I do not know?

Just because one group doesn't do it doesn't prohibit another from doing it. Your argument doesn't have any backing and is purely emotionally driven.

So? Can't we have opinions based on emnotions? It's pretty hard not to with the crap that's going on in regards to illegal immigration.

Mexican flag flies at U.S. post office. Old Glory stamped on in protest by backers of illegal immigration

Mexican President Felipe Calderon: ?Wherever There Is A Mexican, That Is Mexico?

You can have opinions but don't expect them to be taken as fact/truth. Now if you want to go off on a tangent do so in another thread. This isn't about illegal immigration but about some yahoo getting all upset over a self imposed sense of outrage. How many Americans fly tattered, torn, or faded flags and do not realize that this too is considered to be disrespectful ? How many do not realize that damaged or faded flags need to be burn when they are disposed What the vet in the video did was tantamount to theft of private property.

Sorry but from what I've read 85% of the Mexican population in the US is in this country illegally so it's next to immpossible to seperate one issue from the other. Another thing, don't try playing stupid with me. We both know why the bar owner put the Mexican flag above the US flag. He sure sat their dumbfounded when a patriotic vet came and rescued the US flag from it's position of inferiority, didn't he.

I have a strong feeling the next time he considers getting his jollies by disrespecting our flag he'll think twice.

Yea, he'll have a gun, also protected by the Constitution, ready to shoot those who vandalize his property rights.

 

[Caecus Veritas]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Symbols are for the small minded, a real patriot worries more about defending what those symbols stand for. People who are fanatical about the flag itself, but could care less about our actual freedoms are hypocrites...end of story.

Originally posted by: sirjonk

I'm allowed to disrespect a symbol you hold dear. You're allowed to call me on it and tell me what a lowlife you think I am. The right we both have to express our opinion is what you stood for when you served this country. Do you really want to live in a country where expressions of disrespect to the government result in punishment? That wouldn't be a free country.

couldn't agree more with you guys.


a citizen burning a flag in front of iraq war veterans because he disagrees with the war. Discrespectful? Distasteful? Yes!

the said veteran in this topic would most likely have taken direct action against this citizen by preventing the citizen from burning the flag... however, a true patriotic person will actually defend and allow that particular citizen to burn the flag, because, by doing so, he is upholding the VERY PRINCIPAL of what that flag stands for.

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: rpanic

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: rpanic
Rarely do I see a flag of another nation flying in front of a business or residence aside from countries south of the boarder and most of them are Mexican. Why don?t I see other countries flags, you would think that I would see Chinese flags all over a Chinese neighborhood they are the second largest immigrant group, but I have never seen one why is that? Maybe its because Chinese, and other groups are more respectful and think of themselves as Americans. Most of the time I see a Italian, Japanese, or any other flag in the US its on the wall inside of a restaurant.

Every Latino area I have ever drove through I have seen Mexican flags all over on cars, houses, and business because many of them are Mexican first and maybe if at all American second, are these just illegals doing this that I do not know?

Just because one group doesn't do it doesn't prohibit another from doing it. Your argument doesn't have any backing and is purely emotionally driven.

So? Can't we have opinions based on emnotions? It's pretty hard not to with the crap that's going on in regards to illegal immigration.

Mexican flag flies at U.S. post office. Old Glory stamped on in protest by backers of illegal immigration

Mexican President Felipe Calderon: ?Wherever There Is A Mexican, That Is Mexico?

You can have opinions but don't expect them to be taken as fact/truth. Now if you want to go off on a tangent do so in another thread. This isn't about illegal immigration but about some yahoo getting all upset over a self imposed sense of outrage. How many Americans fly tattered, torn, or faded flags and do not realize that this too is considered to be disrespectful ? How many do not realize that damaged or faded flags need to be burn when they are disposed What the vet in the video did was tantamount to theft of private property.

Sorry but from what I've read 85% of the Mexican population in the US is in this country illegally so it's next to immpossible to seperate one issue from the other.

List your sources then. Again Latinos are not all Mexicans and this thread had nothing to do with the issue.

I always hear Mexicans referring to themselves as Latinos and Hispanics.

Mexicans are Latinos, not all Latinos are Mexicans.

 

[1EZduzit]

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html

There are now said to be 12 million to 20 million illegal aliens in the US. Of the Mexicans who live here, an estimated 85 percent are here illegally.

A little over halfway down the page

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: rpanic

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: rpanic
Rarely do I see a flag of another nation flying in front of a business or residence aside from countries south of the boarder and most of them are Mexican. Why don?t I see other countries flags, you would think that I would see Chinese flags all over a Chinese neighborhood they are the second largest immigrant group, but I have never seen one why is that? Maybe its because Chinese, and other groups are more respectful and think of themselves as Americans. Most of the time I see a Italian, Japanese, or any other flag in the US its on the wall inside of a restaurant.

Every Latino area I have ever drove through I have seen Mexican flags all over on cars, houses, and business because many of them are Mexican first and maybe if at all American second, are these just illegals doing this that I do not know?

Just because one group doesn't do it doesn't prohibit another from doing it. Your argument doesn't have any backing and is purely emotionally driven.

So? Can't we have opinions based on emnotions? It's pretty hard not to with the crap that's going on in regards to illegal immigration.

Mexican flag flies at U.S. post office. Old Glory stamped on in protest by backers of illegal immigration

Mexican President Felipe Calderon: ?Wherever There Is A Mexican, That Is Mexico?

You can have opinions but don't expect them to be taken as fact/truth. Now if you want to go off on a tangent do so in another thread. This isn't about illegal immigration but about some yahoo getting all upset over a self imposed sense of outrage. How many Americans fly tattered, torn, or faded flags and do not realize that this too is considered to be disrespectful ? How many do not realize that damaged or faded flags need to be burn when they are disposed What the vet in the video did was tantamount to theft of private property.

Sorry but from what I've read 85% of the Mexican population in the US is in this country illegally so it's next to immpossible to seperate one issue from the other.

List your sources then. Again Latinos are not all Mexicans and this thread had nothing to do with the issue.

I always hear Mexicans referring to themselves as Latinos and Hispanics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...e_in_the_United_States

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latino#Hispanic

These terms are not exclusive to Mexicans. The word Hispanic was actually created by the US Census Bureau and the word Latino refers to anyone from a Spanish speaking Latin American or Caribbean country.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: glutenberg


Yea, he'll have a gun, also protected by the Constitution, ready to shoot those who vandalize his property rights.

Uh-huh. There was a whole bunch of people there, why didn't they stop him or at least stomp him?

Maybe because they knew in their hearts the vet was right and they were wrong??

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html

There are now said to be 12 million to 20 million illegal aliens in the US. Of the Mexicans who live here, an estimated 85 percent are here illegally.

A little over halfway down the page

It's questionable at best. The accepted number is considered to be 12 million illegal immigrants. Of course there is no other sources verifiable sources to pin down their claim that breaks down the distribution of the Hispanic/Latino population in the U.S. Census Burearu based on the nation of origin for those who are residents or US citizens vs those who are illegal it seems. That article is need of some serious linkage in regards to this last statement where they draw this percentage from at the end and if they are using their high end guesstimate or the accepted 12 million estimate.

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: glutenberg


Yea, he'll have a gun, also protected by the Constitution, ready to shoot those who vandalize his property rights.

Uh-huh. There was a whole bunch of people there, why didn't they stop him or at least stomp him?

Maybe because they knew in their hearts the vet was right and they were wrong??

Or maybe they could of cared less to get involved over such a ridiculous scene or just didn't have a clue what was going on. It all seemed pretty staged.

 

[daveymark]

some of the reno craigslist postings are hilarious

is it wrong to laugh at this one?

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