Rendezvous with destiny

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TallBill

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For those that don't know, this is a motto from the 101st airborne. I'd give you the details but you can Google it.

FYI - I deployed to combat twice with the 101st. I'm not sure if the title of our forum announcement is a compliment or an insult, but I figured I'd at least give some frame of reference.
 

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President Franklin Delano Roosevelt made his world famous address declaring war on the Empire of Japan on Dec 7th, 1941, announcing to our nation that we had a "rendezvous with destiny." It was one of the most famous and historically significant speeches made by any American of any station, ever.

My father, a Navy combat veteran, was one of the millions of young Americans to answer that call.

The proud history of the 101st airborne didn't even begin until it was activated on 16 August 1942, at Camp Claiborne, Louisiana, at which time Major General William C. Lee, borrowing from FDR's historic speech, promised his new recruits that the 101st had "no history but had a rendezvous with destiny."

Thank you for your service in the 101st, TallBill. I assure you that no insult whatsoever was meant to President Roosevelt, my country, or the 101st.

I just figured I'd give you a fuller and more complete frame of reference.
 
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TallBill

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Browsing on my phone so its a pain to do anything but a quick posting. That works though, thanks.
 

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President Franklin Delano Roosevelt made his world famous address declaring war on the Empire of Japan on Nov 7th, 1941, announcing to our nation that we had a "rendezvous with destiny." It was one of the most famous and historically significant speeches made by any American of any station, ever.

My father, a Navy combat veteran, was one of the millions of young Americans to answer that call.

The proud history of the 101st airborne didn't even begin until it was activated on 16 August 1942, at Camp Claiborne, Louisiana, at which time Major General William C. Lee, borrowing from FDR's historic speech, promised his new recruits that the 101st had "no history but had a rendezvous with destiny."

Thank you for your service in the 101st, TallBill. I assure you that no insult whatsoever was meant to President Roosevelt, my country, or the 101st.

I just figured I'd give you a fuller and more complete frame of reference.



Errr....wait a minute. FDR declared war on Japan on DECEMBER 7th 1941, not NOVEMBER...and his "Rendezvous with Destiny" speech was from 1936.

http://www.austincc.edu/lpatrick/his2341/fdr36acceptancespeech.htm

December 7th was his famous "Date which will live in infamy" speech.
http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/fdr-infamy.htm

Then, the phrase "rendezvous with destiny" was co-opted by Ronnie Rayguns in the Barry Goldwater campaign of 1964:

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1964reagan1.html
 

JEDI

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For those that don't know, this is a motto from the 101st airborne. I'd give you the details but you can Google it.

FYI - I deployed to combat twice with the 101st. I'm not sure if the title of our forum announcement is a compliment or an insult, but I figured I'd at least give some frame of reference.

u were a paratrooper?

and thats how you spell it? with a 'z'?
but pronounced like 'rondevous'?
 

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Errr....wait a minute. FDR declared war on Japan on DECEMBER 7th 1941, not NOVEMBER...and his "Rendezvous with Destiny" speech was from 1936.

http://www.austincc.edu/lpatrick/his2341/fdr36acceptancespeech.htm

December 7th was his famous "Date which will live in infamy" speech.
http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/fdr-infamy.htm

Then, the phrase "rendezvous with destiny" was co-opted by Ronnie Rayguns in the Barry Goldwater campaign of 1964:

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1964reagan1.html

Date corrected, thanks. I knew that but typoed, my bad.

And thanks for correcting my second mistake, which wasn't a typo but a factual error. My further apologies, what can I say? :(

I grew up in a time and place when FDR's leadership throughout WW11 was regularly referred to and praised using precisely that ringing phrase of his, "rendezvous with destiny", for that was what our entry into WW11 truly was.

As you can see, FDR's own son Elliott Roosevelt wrote a book about his father's war years with that exact title. Here's the sole review of it on Amazon:

5.0 out of 5 stars
A unique view of World War Two and its aftermath, November 27, 2010

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This review is from: A Rendezvous with Destiny: The Roosevelts of the White House (Hardcover)

Franklin Delano Roosevelt's son Elliott gives us a perspective on FDR, Stalin and Churchill that was new to me.

Is this how you would describe WW2 and the relationship between the three allies?

Basically, the U.S. and Britain sat back and watched as Russia defeated Germany, relatively speaking. That's the way a British correspondent summed up the war, and there's a lot of truth to it, though it is an exaggeration.

Franklin Roosevelt developed a good relationship with Stalin, and had FDR not died as quickly as he did, had he continued to lead America or at least influence America, there would not have been a Cold War because Russia didn't deserve to be treated like an enemy by Churchill and the USA.

That's a new one. I always thought of Stalin as crazy, and Russia as predatory.

And here's yet another example of the same use of that phrase to describe two other books about FDR's war years:

Rendezvous With Destiny
Two books offer very different report cards on Roosevelt's role as commander in chief during World War II.

More, usage of same in a major newspaper's artcle about WW11:

WW II was 'rendezvous with destiny'
 
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waggy

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101st! woot.

my Grandfather served in the 101st in WWII and my Dad Served in the 101st in Vietnam. Diffrent company's though. not sure what company my Grandfather was in but my Dad was in Easy company.

I have a picture of both of them in the jump gear.
 

TallBill

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101st! woot.

my Grandfather served in the 101st in WWII and my Dad Served in the 101st in Vietnam. Diffrent company's though. not sure what company my Grandfather was in but my Dad was in Easy company.

I have a picture of both of them in the jump gear.

Post it! Btw I wasn't a paratrooper, modern 101st is air assault.
 

JEDI

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Post it! Btw I wasn't a paratrooper, modern 101st is air assault.

paratroopers are now called air assault?!

title inflation? unless of course you're in a tank that's being dropped from the plane and firing as you fall.

spectre's, spooky's, and b-52 carpet bombing is what i think of air assault.

squadron of cobras and apache's as well

edit:
air calvary
 
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roguerower

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paratroopers are now called air assault?!

title inflation? unless of course you're in a tank that's being dropped from the plane and firing as you fall.

spectre's, spooky's, and b-52 carpet bombing is what i think of air assault.

squadron of cobras and apache's as well

edit:
air calvary

Paratroopers = Airborne
Movement of troops by helicopters = Air Assault

We Were Soldiers shows the early beginnings of Air Assault.

Airborne and Air Assault are two different "schools" in the military now.
 
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