Removing Peltier/TEC on GeCube X1950XT-X AGP

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*Below is my step by step with pics of the process and outcome*


Just got my replacement. Great turnaround on NE's part.

However, I don't think the cards AGP connecter should be jammed through the plastic clamshell case. Seems somone over at GeCube took their frustration out on my fx card.
The driver disk wasn't even in a sleeve, just thrown in there. Atleast they put a sleeve in there

Anyway, I havn't popped it in yet to see if it works yet, wanted to see what other peeps revision # were...see if they released an update.

My RMA is Rev 1.1 I did not check the rev of the 1st one.
 

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I haven't received my replacement yet and I don't remember the revision of the old card. I do remember the BIOS date, was like February 2 or 26 something. Which is your revision? Don't expect to see many replies so not many people has that card.
 

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I just received the replacement today, and now it reaches 70C max, with the original card it used to went up to 90C and then locked up the PC, now works great. :) And the revision is 1.1, but something written with some kind of marker near the AGP port says 03, don't know what that means.
 

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Ater recently spending a weekend testing one of these Gecube X1950XT AGP which was returned by a customer, the less I say about this card the better...I might end up offending some people on this forum.
 

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My replacement was rev 1.1 as well. According to a pic on a different forum I saw the rev # of this whole batch as 1.1 as well.

I applied AS5 to the GPU hoping my temps would drop, even a little, but at stock I still hit 47c and under load I goes past 85c. I stopped it before it went to 86 since my last card made it to 100c then died a week latter

I believe the problem lies in my PSU. When I test ATI tool 3d view and monitored my 12v rail it dropped drastically to 11.6. I have a 500w Ultra X connect with 34 amps on the 12v rail, and that is obviously not enough. Prob too much draw for the pelt to work properly.

Also wonder about doing an aftermarket cooler on this card. What if any coolers are available? Will the Zalman VF900 work? The stock (cooler?) puts out enough heat to keep my office at 27c.

When your card died, was it on a reboot?
 

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Well I got bored so I took the pelt cooler apart...

took some pics and used some AS5 on the pelt itself, too bad my cam sucks and I'm not sure if I seeted the pelt correctly.

My temps are up 10c from before my lil' project at idle in 3d clocks mode...Did something wrong heh.

Well too tired to post pics now, and I'll have to tear it down again fix it anyway, I'll get more pics then.
 

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Originally posted by: Stumps
Ater recently spending a weekend testing one of these Gecube X1950XT AGP which was returned by a customer, the less I say about this card the better...I might end up offending some people on this forum.

Please tell us what you found out, you'll not offend me, it is just a videocard for God sakes! May be you found something that I haven't, after all, I'm still in time for a refund if the thing you found out can affect me. ;) I can see that the components in the PCB and stuff are high quality, but the cooling is a mixed bag, have a good and strong fan, but an inefficient and crappy peltier and a pathettic mounting screws that may give up during use causing the overheating issues due to the lack of contact of the GPU to the cooling system. Anyway after a while I'll use other coolings like Accelero X2 or Zalman. The performance is just astonishing, pretty much like when I jumped from my good old flashed 9700PRO to the flashed X800XT PE.
 

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Unless you cut through the silicone caulk that connects the...Pelt temp sensor? to the board via a 3pin connect, you cannot mount an aftermarket cooling solution...Which is what I am going to be doing tonight :-0

I'll post some pics after
 

evolucion8

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Well, that's not big deal. I know can be a bit tricky to cut that silicon out of those connectors. I will gladly wait here to see those pix and use them as an example or guidance. You can do some kind of walkthrough to how to install an aftermarket cooler to this card with pix and how did you take that silicone off the connector. I'll appreciate it. :):cool:
 

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I did have the powercolour X1950pro AGP for a couple of weeks, but didnt get it to run in 3D. Now returned.

However the powercolour comes with the Accelero X2 as stock and I have to say it was a great cooler. The thing sat @ 36 idle and the ATI tool clocked up to 620 before any issues. I couldnt even here the fan on it.....

Petty I couldnt get the damn thing to work with my system....!
 

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Originally posted by: evolucion8
Originally posted by: Stumps
Ater recently spending a weekend testing one of these Gecube X1950XT AGP which was returned by a customer, the less I say about this card the better...I might end up offending some people on this forum.

Please tell us what you found out, you'll not offend me, it is just a videocard for God sakes! May be you found something that I haven't, after all, I'm still in time for a refund if the thing you found out can affect me. ;) I can see that the components in the PCB and stuff are high quality, but the cooling is a mixed bag, have a good and strong fan, but an inefficient and crappy peltier and a pathettic mounting screws that may give up during use causing the overheating issues due to the lack of contact of the GPU to the cooling system. Anyway after a while I'll use other coolings like Accelero X2 or Zalman. The performance is just astonishing, pretty much like when I jumped from my good old flashed 9700PRO to the flashed X800XT PE.


I would lump the Gecube X1950XT in the same catergory as the Geforce 8800 Ultra.... a complete and utter waste of time not worth buying (at least if you are an Australian customer anyway , AU$570)...after spending an interesting weekend with one, I found that on OC'd C2D that it isn't much faster than the considerably cheaper X1950Pro, most of my benchmarks score only went up by 5%( I got 17983 in 3dmark03, up from 17399, in 05 the score increased from 12283 to 12511, and 06 it went from 6214 to 6387) not worth another AU$180 over a X1950Pro 512mb.

FEAR and Q4 showed only 7fps increase at 1280x1024 (the highest I could test at).

Now let me get to the temperature that the card runs at....I recorded temps close to 75C using the ATI overdrive in the 7.4 cats...up 30C compared to the X1950pro, at idle and close to 90C at full load (Alt tabbing back to the desktop to check temps) compared to the Pro's reasonably cool 57C.

I would say that for an upgrade from a 6600 series or X800 series card, if you have money to burn and a decent CPU (very OC'd P4EE, A64 or C2D), it might be a worth while upgrade...but for everybody else, stick with the Pro...it's considerably cheaper and is almost as fast.

But this is just my take on the Gecube X1950XT-X AGP...I'm sure that those who have purchased one (and managed to get it running stable, I had stability issues once temps got close to 90c in some games) are happy with them. but for those of us who have 7600GT's, 7800GS's or X1950Pro's there is simply no need to buy one.
 

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I must add that I really did have high hopes for this card...I was considering it for my other AGP rigs...the sad truth is and I suspect because of the AGP bus, the card just simply doesn't live up to it's name or price...either that or I have a super Sapphire X1950Pro...but I don't have the latter (Apoppin can confirm this, his rig performs almost identical to mine).

In the end I was just simply disappointed with it.
 

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Originally posted by: Stumps
Originally posted by: evolucion8
Originally posted by: Stumps
Ater recently spending a weekend testing one of these Gecube X1950XT AGP which was returned by a customer, the less I say about this card the better...I might end up offending some people on this forum.

Please tell us what you found out, you'll not offend me, it is just a videocard for God sakes! May be you found something that I haven't, after all, I'm still in time for a refund if the thing you found out can affect me. ;) I can see that the components in the PCB and stuff are high quality, but the cooling is a mixed bag, have a good and strong fan, but an inefficient and crappy peltier and a pathettic mounting screws that may give up during use causing the overheating issues due to the lack of contact of the GPU to the cooling system. Anyway after a while I'll use other coolings like Accelero X2 or Zalman. The performance is just astonishing, pretty much like when I jumped from my good old flashed 9700PRO to the flashed X800XT PE.


I would lump the Gecube X1950XT in the same catergory as the Geforce 8800 Ultra.... a complete and utter waste of time not worth buying (at least if you are an Australian customer anyway , AU$570)...after spending an interesting weekend with one, I found that on OC'd C2D that it isn't much faster than the considerably cheaper X1950Pro, most of my benchmarks score only went up by 5%( I got 17983 in 3dmark03, up from 17399, in 05 the score increased from 12283 to 12511, and 06 it went from 6214 to 6387) not worth another AU$180 over a X1950Pro 512mb.

FEAR and Q4 showed only 7fps increase at 1280x1024 (the highest I could test at).

Now let me get to the temperature that the card runs at....I recorded temps close to 75C using the ATI overdrive in the 7.4 cats...up 30C compared to the X1950pro, at idle and close to 90C at full load (Alt tabbing back to the desktop to check temps) compared to the Pro's reasonably cool 57C.

I would say that for an upgrade from a 6600 series or X800 series card, if you have money to burn and a decent CPU (very OC'd P4EE, A64 or C2D), it might be a worth while upgrade...but for everybody else, stick with the Pro...it's considerably cheaper and is almost as fast.

But this is just my take on the Gecube X1950XT-X AGP...I'm sure that those who have purchased one (and managed to get it running stable, I had stability issues once temps got close to 90c in some games) are happy with them. but for those of us who have 7600GT's, 7800GS's or X1950Pro's there is simply no need to buy one.

A 7600GT or 7800GS will be as fast as a X850XT PE, the performance upgrade to a X1950PRO or X1950XT will be noticeable. If the card reaches 90C is defective, I had the same issues and now it doesn't even exceeds the 74C threshold under full load.
 

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Originally posted by: evolucion8
Originally posted by: Stumps
Originally posted by: evolucion8
Originally posted by: Stumps
Ater recently spending a weekend testing one of these Gecube X1950XT AGP which was returned by a customer, the less I say about this card the better...I might end up offending some people on this forum.

Please tell us what you found out, you'll not offend me, it is just a videocard for God sakes! May be you found something that I haven't, after all, I'm still in time for a refund if the thing you found out can affect me. ;) I can see that the components in the PCB and stuff are high quality, but the cooling is a mixed bag, have a good and strong fan, but an inefficient and crappy peltier and a pathettic mounting screws that may give up during use causing the overheating issues due to the lack of contact of the GPU to the cooling system. Anyway after a while I'll use other coolings like Accelero X2 or Zalman. The performance is just astonishing, pretty much like when I jumped from my good old flashed 9700PRO to the flashed X800XT PE.


I would lump the Gecube X1950XT in the same catergory as the Geforce 8800 Ultra.... a complete and utter waste of time not worth buying (at least if you are an Australian customer anyway , AU$570)...after spending an interesting weekend with one, I found that on OC'd C2D that it isn't much faster than the considerably cheaper X1950Pro, most of my benchmarks score only went up by 5%( I got 17983 in 3dmark03, up from 17399, in 05 the score increased from 12283 to 12511, and 06 it went from 6214 to 6387) not worth another AU$180 over a X1950Pro 512mb.

FEAR and Q4 showed only 7fps increase at 1280x1024 (the highest I could test at).

Now let me get to the temperature that the card runs at....I recorded temps close to 75C using the ATI overdrive in the 7.4 cats...up 30C compared to the X1950pro, at idle and close to 90C at full load (Alt tabbing back to the desktop to check temps) compared to the Pro's reasonably cool 57C.

I would say that for an upgrade from a 6600 series or X800 series card, if you have money to burn and a decent CPU (very OC'd P4EE, A64 or C2D), it might be a worth while upgrade...but for everybody else, stick with the Pro...it's considerably cheaper and is almost as fast.

But this is just my take on the Gecube X1950XT-X AGP...I'm sure that those who have purchased one (and managed to get it running stable, I had stability issues once temps got close to 90c in some games) are happy with them. but for those of us who have 7600GT's, 7800GS's or X1950Pro's there is simply no need to buy one.

A 7600GT or 7800GS will be as fast as a X850XT PE, the performance upgrade to a X1950PRO or X1950XT will be noticeable. If the card reaches 90C is defective, I had the same issues and now it doesn't even exceeds the 74C threshold under full load.


that was why the card was returned, and it has since been sent back to the supplier.
My point was though the small performance increase over the Pro, simply does not justify the high price compared to the Pro.

I would reccomend the X1950Pro AGP over the X1950XT AGP any day of the week.

Gecube would have been better off offering a full blown X1950XTX 512mb AGP (minus the peltier, it's uselss)for the price of the X1950XT.
 

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Originally posted by: Stumps
I must add that I really did have high hopes for this card...I was considering it for my other AGP rigs...the sad truth is and I suspect because of the AGP bus, the card just simply doesn't live up to it's name or price...either that or I have a super Sapphire X1950Pro...but I don't have the latter (Apoppin can confirm this, his rig performs almost identical to mine).

In the end I was just simply disappointed with it.

Not even a X1950XTX can saturate the AGP bus. http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/Sapphire%20X1950Pro%20AGP/index.php It says the following:

Conclusion: if the performance is bounded by the video system, migration to a more powerful platform does not bring any significant effect.

That is, in practice if you have a video card belonging to the mid-end (or lower) and you wish to improve the performance at 3D games, the CPU overclocking, its replacement with a more powerful model or migration to a more powerful platform without replacement of the video card won't help. Using our tests, you can determine the bottleneck of your system - the video card or the CPU.

As regards the video cards themselves which took part in today's tests, the results are evident. Despite the respectable age of AGP platforms, they can get the second wind through installation of the fastest AGP video cards currently available. Now regarding the prices. Video cards based on 7800GS are currently offered at prices within $295 to $325. (8800GTS 320 MB costs a bit more, but unfortunately it is not manufactured for the AGP.) Sapphire X1950Pro 512 AGP is currently available at about $270-280. No doubt, this is a good chance to give a new lease of life to the AGP-based system without loss of comfort at modern games. For now, there are still no DirectX 10 games, and it's going to pass a long time until they are released. Once they appear in mass quantities, a number of CPU and GPU generations will be replaced, and then there will come the time to think of "migration" to a new computer.

http://firingsquad.com/hardware/powerco...adeon_x1950_pro_agp_review/default.asp States the following:

The point is, there are plenty of reasons why many AGP users just don?t feel the urge to replace their entire system just yet, and would rather just upgrade the component that matters the most right now for gaming: the graphics card. Think of it as a midlife upgrade if you will.

The debate is, should you upgrade to a new card like the Radeon X1950 Pro AGP, or just junk the idea of a midlife upgrade and swap out your motherboard, graphics, and other components and make the move to PCI Express.

Hopefully this article shed a little light on what kind of performance you could expect from going down the midlife upgrade path (via the PowerColor X1950 Pro AGP), or for the all-out replacement with the PCI Express system.

As you just saw in our benchmarks, in many cases the AGP rig is quite a capable performer. In Quake 4 and Oblivion for instance, the difference in performance was nearly indistinguishable. Company of Heroes, and to a slightly lesser extent F.E.A.R. were the only applications where the PCI Express X1950 Pro card really pulled ahead of its AGP counterpart, with the PCIe board running up to 9% faster in CoH at 1600x1200 with 2xAA/8xAF.

"In comparison to the other AGP cards, the Radeon X1950 Pro is clearly in a class of its own right now. With the exception of Quake 4 (where the GeForce 7800 GS quite handily outperformed the X1950 Pro), the X1950 Pro swept all of our benchmarks, sometimes delivering over 1.5 times the performance of the GeForce 7800 GS AGP. Unless you?re a heavy Quake player, the Radeon X1950 Pro is definitely the fastest GPU out there on the AGP platform. It really isn?t all that close either."

So somebody going from a 7800GS to a X1950PRO really will appreciate the huge performance boost, but somebody going from a X1950PRO to XT hardly will notice a difference except in high resolutions and lots of anti aliasing, but the difference will be even less considering that the GeCube X1950XT has only 256MB of VRAM. I notice a huge performance boost from my X800XT PE in heavy games like Oblivion, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and Prey, in other games like The Need for Speed Most Wanted, Half Life 2 etc, the benefits are not that great, considering that I don't have the greatest CPU gaming in the market, still able to see nice benefits and being able to increase image quality like High AF and FSAA. So even though a X1950XT having 25% more pixel shaders, 25% more pixel pipelines, 35% more pixel fillrate, 15% more vertex power and 33% more pixel shader power calculation, so a 30% increase in performance from a X1950PRO to XT can be seen when not CPU limited. Pretty much like comparing a X800PRO to a X800XT PE.
 

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Originally posted by: Stumps
Originally posted by: evolucion8
Originally posted by: Stumps
Originally posted by: evolucion8
Originally posted by: Stumps
Ater recently spending a weekend testing one of these Gecube X1950XT AGP which was returned by a customer, the less I say about this card the better...I might end up offending some people on this forum.

Please tell us what you found out, you'll not offend me, it is just a videocard for God sakes! May be you found something that I haven't, after all, I'm still in time for a refund if the thing you found out can affect me. ;) I can see that the components in the PCB and stuff are high quality, but the cooling is a mixed bag, have a good and strong fan, but an inefficient and crappy peltier and a pathettic mounting screws that may give up during use causing the overheating issues due to the lack of contact of the GPU to the cooling system. Anyway after a while I'll use other coolings like Accelero X2 or Zalman. The performance is just astonishing, pretty much like when I jumped from my good old flashed 9700PRO to the flashed X800XT PE.


I would lump the Gecube X1950XT in the same catergory as the Geforce 8800 Ultra.... a complete and utter waste of time not worth buying (at least if you are an Australian customer anyway , AU$570)...after spending an interesting weekend with one, I found that on OC'd C2D that it isn't much faster than the considerably cheaper X1950Pro, most of my benchmarks score only went up by 5%( I got 17983 in 3dmark03, up from 17399, in 05 the score increased from 12283 to 12511, and 06 it went from 6214 to 6387) not worth another AU$180 over a X1950Pro 512mb.

FEAR and Q4 showed only 7fps increase at 1280x1024 (the highest I could test at).

Now let me get to the temperature that the card runs at....I recorded temps close to 75C using the ATI overdrive in the 7.4 cats...up 30C compared to the X1950pro, at idle and close to 90C at full load (Alt tabbing back to the desktop to check temps) compared to the Pro's reasonably cool 57C.

I would say that for an upgrade from a 6600 series or X800 series card, if you have money to burn and a decent CPU (very OC'd P4EE, A64 or C2D), it might be a worth while upgrade...but for everybody else, stick with the Pro...it's considerably cheaper and is almost as fast.

But this is just my take on the Gecube X1950XT-X AGP...I'm sure that those who have purchased one (and managed to get it running stable, I had stability issues once temps got close to 90c in some games) are happy with them. but for those of us who have 7600GT's, 7800GS's or X1950Pro's there is simply no need to buy one.

A 7600GT or 7800GS will be as fast as a X850XT PE, the performance upgrade to a X1950PRO or X1950XT will be noticeable. If the card reaches 90C is defective, I had the same issues and now it doesn't even exceeds the 74C threshold under full load.


that was why the card was returned, and it has since been sent back to the supplier.
My point was though the small performance increase over the Pro, simply does not justify the high price compared to the Pro.

I would reccomend the X1950Pro AGP over the X1950XT AGP any day of the week.

Gecube would have been better off offering a full blown X1950XTX 512mb AGP (minus the peltier, it's uselss)for the price of the X1950XT.

Well I can recommend the same as far as the X1950PRO cost less, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161069 That one costs 289 bucks, and this costs 259 bucks. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161082. The GeCube X1950XT costs 259 bucks too, I would take the XT over those two PRO any day, but those X19500PRO that costs between 199 and 219 are nice deals, particularly the sapphire version that comes with 512MB that costs 219. Deals like that are recommended over the GeCube cards any day. They run cooler, not exorbitating cooling system and consumes far less power.
 

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Hmmm I guess you right about the upgrade from a 7600GT/7800GS to a X1950 series card...I was spoiled with my BFG 7800GS OC, because I always ran it overclocked at 550/1350, it performed more like a 7900GT(with in 5-7% anyway) in most things, the jump to a X1950pro wasn't as huge for me as it was for other users.

But with that said I still wouldn't recommend the Gecube to anybody, I say either get a X1950GT/PRO or keep saving for a decent PCI-E setup.
 

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Removing the stock HSF/Peltier cooler on my GeCube X1950XT AGP

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/55b80432fa.jpg
GeCube X1950XT-X AGP

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The HSF/Pelt off.

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/d71fb5f495.jpg
The Pelt!

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/861db73c47.jpg
Naked!

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/2a594c7dc9.jpg
X1950XT AGP with X1600 Pro


Removing the HSF.

Removal of the HSF was pretty straight forward; If you have ever installed one then this is a no brainer. Simply unscrew the four screws on the backplate and the whole unit comes off. Now remove the fan power clips, and unplug the Pelt power connect.

The biggest problem with this step was unclipping the fan connectors. I had to use the edge of a razorblade to unclip each side while pulling up on the fan wires.

Removing the last wire.

Using a razorblade I cut the silicone caulk away from the board and pulled the (temp sensor?) connector along with the caulk glob right off the pins. Making sure to use both thumbs with even upward pressure. The pins are long and there is thankfully NO CLIP on this conector (a la glue) similar to a USB header. So dont worry about ripping the pins out.

Thats it! clean up the GPU and your free to install any aftermarket cooler of your choice since this is a standard X1950XT PCB...now sans glue!


The Temps:

*Ambient room temp 25c*

With my Zalman VF700 cu temps were not that great; it's not that great of a cooler though. However, it took ~5 min to hit max temp as opposed to 5 secs before. And max is now consistantly 80c not 100c+

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Load

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Idle

Stock temps are not at 44c in ATI tool and max out at 80c under full 3d load. But now I can fit any cooler to this that I like. :)

The real unexpected bonus though is now when I run 3D there is not as much flux in my 12v rail as when the pelt was on. Plus now I have a TEC cooler for keeping my soda cold :p
 

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Aeros, I hope you remember to put some cooling on the voltage regulator...with out decent cooling on the part of the X19x0 series card, they have a very short life span.
 

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Could use a spare vga ramsink. But, I have not heard anything about this on the net.

And with the Pelt and the two cooling fans removed The draw of the card is reduced.

To mention the only cooling the vReg had befor was 2mm of (cooling?) foam pad stuck on the backplate. Least now it gets air on it.
 

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Originally posted by: Aeros
Removing the stock HSF/Peltier cooler on my GeCube X1950XT AGP

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/55b80432fa.jpg
GeCube X1950XT-X AGP

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/8dbe4153f8.jpg
The HSF/Pelt off.

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/d71fb5f495.jpg
The Pelt!

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/861db73c47.jpg
Naked!

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/2a594c7dc9.jpg
X1950XT AGP with X1600 Pro


Removing the HSF.

Removal of the HSF was pretty straight forward; If you have ever installed one then this is a no brainer. Simply unscrew the four screws on the backplate and the whole unit comes off. Now remove the fan power clips, and unplug the Pelt power connect.

The biggest problem with this step was unclipping the fan connectors. I had to use the edge of a razorblade to unclip each side while pulling up on the fan wires.

Removing the last wire.

Using a razorblade I cut the silicone caulk away from the board and pulled the (temp sensor?) connector along with the caulk glob right off the pins. Making sure to use both thumbs with even upward pressure. The pins are long and there is thankfully NO CLIP on this conector (a la glue) similar to a USB header. So dont worry about ripping the pins out.

Thats it! clean up the GPU and your free to install any aftermarket cooler of your choice since this is a standard X1950XT PCB...now sans glue!


The Temps:

*Ambient room temp 25c*

With my Zalman VF700 cu temps were not that great; it's not that great of a cooler though. However, it took ~5 min to hit max temp as opposed to 5 secs before. And max is now consistantly 80c not 100c+

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/8f1687bb95.jpg
Load

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/0ceb6edf78.jpg
Idle

Stock temps are not at 44c in ATI tool and max out at 80c under full 3d load. But now I can fit any cooler to this that I like. :)

The real unexpected bonus though is now when I run 3D there is not as much flux in my 12v rail as when the pelt was on. Plus now I have a TEC cooler for keeping my soda cold :p

Hey, Thanks for the documentations provided. I just ordered that card, and it's not in my hand yet. Now, I have a couple questions.

1. I have antec 350W PSU, so I am thinking that the power supply could be an issue. As a result, I would like to remove the pelt from the cooling assembly.

Speaking of which, the pelt disspates even more heat to the other side of the heatsink. The only point of a pelt is that it can potentially cool the CPU below 0%. It seems that since the pelt isn't even in contact with the GPU, it becomes a heat source that contributes to the overheat problem, so I wonder if I can take off the pelt and just use the ridiculously large heat sink.

BTW, I heard a lot of the problem with overheating is due to the cooling assembly peeling off from GPU (I actually have a similar problem with my CPU cooling assembly, so maybe there's someway to fix it.
 

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Definitively with such power supply you will have power issues. Even if you remove the peltier. Don't know if you can use the cooling system without the peltier. And yep, that's the main issue with the card, that the cooling system loose it's contact with the GPU cause of it's weight. The easiest way to fix that problem is just to remove the copper cover that is found behind the GPU in the other side of the PCB and put an additional gray tape or electrical tape on top of the thermal pad that is placed on the back of the GPU, that will add more pressure point in the center of the PCB making a better contact with the GPU and the rest of the cooling system. I saw that mod on another forum with a person that had the same issue and it was solved. He used electrical black tape which worked without issues but is not recommended because it may melt.
 

ProjectIcarus

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Originally posted by: evolucion8
Definitively with such power supply you will have power issues. Even if you remove the peltier. Don't know if you can use the cooling system without the peltier. And yep, that's the main issue with the card, that the cooling system loose it's contact with the GPU cause of it's weight. The easiest way to fix that problem is just to remove the copper cover that is found behind the GPU in the other side of the PCB and put an additional gray tape or electrical tape on top of the thermal pad that is placed on the back of the GPU, that will add more pressure point in the center of the PCB making a better contact with the GPU and the rest of the cooling system. I saw that mod on another forum with a person that had the same issue and it was solved. He used electrical black tape which worked without issues but is not recommended because it may melt.

the thing about the pelt, is that it actuallys adds more burden to the overall cooling system. This system just doesn't make any engineering sense. It's kinda like adding a spolier to the back of a Toyota Camry. Here's my question, is the pet in direct cotact with the GPU? If not, I want to remove it.

Also, I will try to devise a way to pervent the cooling block from losing contact with the GPU once I get my hand on the unit.