Removing 4X4 Front Rotors

[olds]

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How do I get this off? They make a tool for it? RH or LH?

 

[LTC8K6]

Axle nut socket? Example:

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200379099_200379099

 

[olds]

Never seen one before. Just went and picked one up. Thanks.

Then I run into this...

 

[IcePickFreak]

Shouldn't have to disassembled the entire hub if your just trying to replace the rotors. Remove caliper (which it looks like you did), remove the axle shaft nut which is locked on with a cotter pin, and then unbolt the entire hub assembly from the back side via normally 4 bolts. That a Dodge 3/4 ton?

 

[olds]

1/2 ton Ford.
I had to drive the lug bolts out to separate the hub from the rotors.
I am too old for this...
I got both front shocks replaced and the brakes done on one side.
Buttoned it up to finish the other brake another time. It was beer 30.
Came in the house and there's only one beer! I guess I'll have to switch to Maker's Mark.

Thanks for the help.
The other one should be a breeze.

 

[LTC8K6]

You gotta stock up before you begin operations...

 

[olds]

You gotta stock up before you begin operations...

Right? I can't call it a rookie mistake either.

 

[Bignate603]

Right? I can't call it a rookie mistake either.

Blame it on Alzheimer's

I'll probably be underneath a car tomorrow. The wife says her van is pulling to one side.

 

[alkemyst]

RTFM? Seriously...never start a project unless you know you have the tools/parts on hand.

 

[5150MyU]

That washer that you are looking at will come off with a magnet or a set of needlenose pliers.

 

[5150MyU]

Then you will find an identical nut underneath.

 

[olds]

That washer that you are looking at will come off with a magnet or a set of needlenose pliers.

Then you will find an identical nut underneath.

I couldn't get needlenose pliers in there, they were too big.
So I used alky's dick.

And you are correct, there was another nut underneath it.

 

[5150MyU]

That nut will come off with the same socket-remember that nut as it is the first one back on.
The torque is a little funky-but basically tighten by hand and back off so that you get .001 to .008 of play-yes that is hard to determine.
Put the washer back on and add the other nut and tighten it good.
Shoot for the .002 to .006 range because as you tighten it it will decrease.
That is normal clearance.

 

[5150MyU]

That nut should have a pin in it-the nut that goes on first.

 

[alkemyst]

That nut will come off with the same socket-remember that nut as it is the first one back on.
The torque is a little funky-but basically tighten by hand and back off so that you get .001 to .008 of play-yes that is hard to determine.
Put the washer back on and add the other nut and tighten it good.
Shoot for the .002 to .006 range because as you tighten it it will decrease.
That is normal clearance.

It's going to be impossible to 'eyeball' that clearance and why feeler gauges are sold.

 

[SuperSix]

Do your shoes get ruined walking on water?

 

[olds]

Do your shoes get ruined walking on water?

I've always worn sandals.

 

[SooperDave]

That nut will come off with the same socket-remember that nut as it is the first one back on.
The torque is a little funky-but basically tighten by hand and back off so that you get .001 to .008 of play-yes that is hard to determine.
Put the washer back on and add the other nut and tighten it good.
Shoot for the .002 to .006 range because as you tighten it it will decrease.
That is normal clearance.

Agreed. No different than any tapered wheel bearing. Tighten just until the bearing seats fully and has zero play. Then back off as little as possible to install a keeper/jam nut. I guess you could use a dial indicator if you were a total noob to check play.

 

[SooperDave]

It's going to be impossible to 'eyeball' that clearance and why feeler gauges are sold.

Feeler gauge? I've got over 1,000 brake jobs under my belt and never heard of this. I'm a little out of date tho. Link to a brake job (4x4 or otherwise) showing a feeler gauge checking hub bearing play?

 

[5150MyU]

Have to agree, you are not gonna check that clearance with a feeler gauge.

 

[alkemyst]

Feeler gauge? I've got over 1,000 brake jobs under my belt and never heard of this. I'm a little out of date tho. Link to a brake job (4x4 or otherwise) showing a feeler gauge checking hub bearing play?

I don't think any FSM's show it either.

You do realize when an engineer puts up a 3 sig fig clearance it may be important in some way, right?

Most that do car work are lucky at best with their jerry rigging.

It was this forum that also stated torque wrenches are totally a waste of time in an engine rebuild. I forget the poster, but he was popular.

 

[5150MyU]

A torque wrench is very important for certain jobs-but I will admit I only use them on cylinderheads, cranks, pistons, and new brake rotors.

 

[5150MyU]

A 3 digit clearance is rather large, the 4 digit clearance is when it gets tight.

 

[alkemyst]

A torque wrench is very important for certain jobs-but I will admit I only use them on cylinderheads, cranks, pistons, and new brake rotors.

Stay away from expensive wheels.

 

[BUTCH1]

I don't think any FSM's show it either.

You do realize when an engineer puts up a 3 sig fig clearance it may be important in some way, right?

Most that do car work are lucky at best with their jerry rigging.

It was this forum that also stated torque wrenches are totally a waste of time in an engine rebuild. I forget the poster, but he was popular.

Yea, I remember that, he was claiming he could install head bolts by "feel" since he had done so many didn't need a TW, I wouldn't want him wrenching on my car, no one is that good..