remote desktop/pc anywhere question

QueBert

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not sure if this should go here, or tech support. but here is my problem. I have a client who wants to be able to connect to 4 of his offices, he bought Pcanywhere, but the problem is all of the offices are on dynamic ip's, he knows very little about pcs, and even if he did it would be a lot of extra work to constantly track down the IP addresses of all 4 connections. He could pay extra for static ip's, or go with one of those places that gives you a static host, but are there any other solutions? I don't want him paying more exta money each month then he has to.

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blemoine

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hamachi is a zero configuration vpn client/server. its is free and you can download it at www.hamachi.cc you don't have to have a static ip address. install it on each pc that he needs to acccess. he can make the vpn connection and then use remote desktop or ultra vnc to remote control the desktop. check it out it really works pretty good
 
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i use dyndns www.dyndns.com with my router (netgear)

all i had to do was setup a free account and then the router came with a built in setting for a dynamic dns, i put in the url they assigned me and it automatically updates my current ip to the url...

i've also used no-ip www.no-ip.com they have a small piece of software you run on your computer that updates the dynamic ip periodically




for what it's worth
 

Goosemaster

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hamachi (ssl vpn) + remote desktop/vnc

OR

dynamic DNS (example: dyns.org no-ip.ccom) + remote desktop/vnc
 

ivwshane

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I use remote desktop and dynamic dns. For multiple pc's behind the router create custom rdp ports for each system (a simple reg edit) and forward them on the router.

He will then connect using remote desktop client and specify the address like so: dynamicname.com:xxxx (xxxx=the port number of the computer he wants to connectt to).
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: blemoine
hamachi is a zero configuration vpn client/server. its is free and you can download it at www.hamachi.cc you don't have to have a static ip address. install it on each pc that he needs to acccess. he can make the vpn connection and then use remote desktop or ultra vnc to remote control the desktop. check it out it really works pretty good

I have tried this and it works wonderfully


even when you have a few friends who want to multiplay lan only games :)
 

nweaver

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I wouldn't hack the registry to change ports unless absolutly required. Do port translation on the router, i.e. request to port 3390 goes to box1:3389, pot 3391 goes to box2:3389 etc
 

eelw

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Another happy Hamachi user here. Have multiple groups made so I can share pictures and videos with friends and family. Only wish there was a way to use Hamachi without installing the client so I can quickly use securely a public computer.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: eelw
Another happy Hamachi user here. Have multiple groups made so I can share pictures and videos with friends and family. Only wish there was a way to use Hamachi without installing the client so I can quickly use securely a public computer.

there is, well, ort of anyway, but it is a major PITA.

 

sieistganzfett

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have him call someone at the office he wants to connect to and that person would goto whatsmyip.org to find out the ip then tell him so that he can use pcanywhere to connect using that ip. i think this would be the easy/cheap solution, but nothing beats those free options if you want to try them.
 

ivwshane

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Originally posted by: nweaver
I wouldn't hack the registry to change ports unless absolutly required. Do port translation on the router, i.e. request to port 3390 goes to box1:3389, pot 3391 goes to box2:3389 etc


lol

Or you could do it that way:p
 

eelw

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: eelw
Another happy Hamachi user here. Have multiple groups made so I can share pictures and videos with friends and family. Only wish there was a way to use Hamachi without installing the client so I can quickly use securely a public computer.

there is, well, ort of anyway, but it is a major PITA.

Care to elaborate?
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: eelw
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: eelw
Another happy Hamachi user here. Have multiple groups made so I can share pictures and videos with friends and family. Only wish there was a way to use Hamachi without installing the client so I can quickly use securely a public computer.

there is, well, ort of anyway, but it is a major PITA.

Care to elaborate?

Hamachi uses a technology called SSL VPN in addition to another trick using a special unused IP subnet. What does ths mean to you? Basically it can circumvent most basic firewall and most equipment that isn't proactively trying to keep it out. What this means for you is zero configuration. Unless you have a hardware SSL solution, Hamachi is basically the only zero configuration solution out there that is free.

the alternatives to access files between family and friends depend on whether you are willing to pay. assuming that you aren't using some paid service, you can achieve multiple point to point IPSEC or PPTP VPN tunnels between your family in friends creating a mesh network depending on your configuration. While this will allow for access between the networks, it is VERY complicated to setup and will take a LOT of time.

If you simply wanted to VPN into a network from a website, you could do so using SSL explorer or you could use openVPN as a server. In the end, you are looking at a LOT of work.


Basically, the beauty of hamachi, and I know I sound like I am plugging thir program but I really like it, is that it keeps all of this SSL VPN and mesh stuff under the radar screen. Basically, the SSL VPN stuff is what allows hamachi to bypass almost EVERYTHING IMAGINABLE and make your pc accessible by a single ip adress that doesn't change.

What you have on the top layer is a client that acts as a host on the 5.x.x.x network, which no internet router will acknowledge. Only the hamachi server uses it. Basically, as a hsot on this network, and using a key, not only can you create a connection with another rcomputer, but you can create a group that can communicate with almsot any protocol from ftp to windows networking ,to, of course, remote desktop.


basically, my point is, there are other ways to do what hamachi does, but in the end, it is a fantastic tool that basically takes a bunch of clients, and makes it seems as if they are on the same local network. What makes it great is that although all the goodies inside like the SSL VPN and the encryption and tunneling and what not allow you to pull this off, the client remains simple ,and pc to pc copmmunications remain even simple.

other options include getting a host and setting up a webpage to excahnge files (MS sharepoint services is a corporate example, and ilife '06's iweb is a consumer example) or an ftp server.


 

eelw

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Thanks for the quick primer, but I was looking to see if there was an alternate way to use Hamachi without installing it's client on a public computer. Not setup an entirely different program.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: eelw
Thanks for the quick primer, but I was looking to see if there was an alternate way to use Hamachi without installing it's client on a public computer. Not setup an entirely different program.

oh.


then, no.:eek:
 

trexmgd

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Can anyone point me to another free DNS service? The one linked in the article (myip.us) is no longer accepting new members.