Remorseless man who murdered 7 schoolgirls hailed as hero

madoka

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Regardless of your political beliefs, the murder of innocent children should never be tolerated, let alone celebrated.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/jordan-releases-soldier-killed-7-israeli-girls-1997-234946546.html

A Jordanian soldier who killed seven Israeli schoolgirls in a 1997 shooting rampage was unrepentant after his release from prison Sunday, lashing out at Israelis with harshly derogatory remarks.

Ahmed Daqamseh, who had spent 20 years in prison, was given a rousing welcome in his home village in northern Jordan after his release. He was greeted by chanting supporters who kissed him on the cheek and raised a photo of him with the caption, "Welcome to the hero Daqamseh."

Daqamseh opened fire on a group of Israeli students at the scenic "Island of Peace" border post in March 1997, killing seven and wounding seven.

A Jordanian military court deemed Daqamseh mentally unstable and sentenced him to life in prison, rather than imposing the death penalty. Jordan had announced several days ago that Daqamseh would be released this week, after completing his term. In Jordan, life terms are not open-ended, and prisoners can be released after 20 years.

Upon arriving in his hometown, Daqamseh expressed no regrets, telling a reporter that Israelis are "human garbage."

Jordan executes their murderers and rapists, but killing Jews doesn't seem like much of a crime in their book:

A majority of Jordanian politicians lobbied for Daqamseh’s early release, with 110 out of 150 of the country's MPs signing a petition on his behalf in 2013.

In 2011, then-Jordanian Justice Minister Hussein Mjali caused outrage when he called for Daqamseh’s early release, proclaiming him “a hero” who “does not deserve prison. If a Jewish person killed Arabs, his country would have built a statue for him instead of imprisonment.”

Daqamseh has repeatedly denied committing any crime and said that he should be freed from prison because he had simply fulfilled his national and religious duty by killing the children. He is regarded as a hero by some Jordanians, who oppose their government's co-operation with Israel.
 

WelshBloke

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Not sure what one has to do with the other.


Just wondering where the line was for tolerating the killing of children. OP says it should never be tolerated. Thats obviously wrong because everyone keeps doing it.
 

BoomerD

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How could you shoot women, children?
Easy. Ya just don't lead 'em so much. Hahaha. Ain't war hell?
 

madoka

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Just wondering where the line was for tolerating the killing of children. OP says it should never be tolerated. Thats obviously wrong because everyone keeps doing it.

That was one of the dumbest analogies I've ever seen. What kind of sick retard would even make it?

The accidental deaths of civilians was something that was apologized for and they make attempts to prevent them from happening.

“We regret the unintentional loss of civilian lives resulting from coalition efforts to defeat Isis in Iraq and Syria and express our deepest sympathies to the families and others affected by these strikes,” a spokesperson said.

That's very different from a guy mowing down school girls with a machine gun and then being praised as a national hero.

The Associated Press reported that Daqamseh arrived in his home village of Ibdir in northern Jordan on Friday and told reporters that Israelis are "human garbage". Amateur footage posted online showing him surrounded by singing and dancing men, some kissing him on the cheek.
 
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Yeah, stuff like this is what quickly alienated me from the Palestinian cause. Like, there is significant validity to their grievances, which should be handled with a check. Otherwise, the population there has been so twisted and gnarled into something that is truly unattractive that the future of society in that region looks dim.
 

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I thought this was about Star Wars. Way too serious/dark of a thread.
Edit: My bad. This is P&N ! haha. Sorry for the interruption.
Going back to where I came from.
 

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That was one of the dumbest analogies I've ever seen. What kind of sick retard would even make it?

The accidental deaths of civilians was something that was apologized for and they make attempts to prevent them from happening.



That's very different from a guy mowing down school girls with a machine gun and then being praised as a national hero.

It's not dumb at all. It is quite astute. We all may apologize for Civilian Deaths, but we treat the people who commit those acts as Heroes and we kill Civilians again and again. He did what he did for the same reason we do what we do, not to kill Women/Children, but to kill the "Enemy".
 

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What else is there? The Dolphin nightclub bombing, the time a Palestinian went into a settler's home and murdered the daughter of a settler, Palestinians shooting up high schools and being hailed by their mothers as heroes, countless bus bombings, and above all, that glassy-eyed insistence by Palestinians and their supporters that the Palestinians have a right to resist by using violence. THat last one is when I realized how insane the Left is.
 

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That was one of the dumbest analogies I've ever seen. What kind of sick retard would even make it?

The accidental deaths of civilians was something that was apologized for and they make attempts to prevent them from happening.



That's very different from a guy mowing down school girls with a machine gun and then being praised as a national hero.

Thing is if we were really sorry about it we probably wouldn't keep doing it. We're probably a bit sorry about it, but not sorry enough not to do it again.
 
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OutHouse

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Thing is if we were really sorry about it we probably wouldn't keep doing it. We're probably a bit sorry about it, but not sorry enough not to do it again.

serious question do you know the difference between a accident and a intentional act? Judging by yours and sandi retarded replies, It does not look like it.
 

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In America you are hero if you kill children like these, right OP?

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OP is racist POS that hates palestinians and arabs, thread is typical for OP racist ways. When this "terrorist" was killed he had nothing to say!
 
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What is this? Politics is more important than the truth day? Fortunately I missed the memo.

1) We don't intentionally kill innocent children.

2) If any are accidentally killed as collateral damage we don't celebrate the event.

3) Nor do we label the child killer a hero. Quite the opposite we take every step possible to prevent it and feel awful about it. At least the sane of us do.

4) Also we don't call the victims human garbage.
 

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"We don't intentionally kill children" except for raids when we admit we [unintentionally] kill nearly a dozen (the majority of casualties)....
https://www.thebureauinvestigates.c...-the-full-details-of-botched-us-raid-in-yemen
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http://www.dictionary.com/browse/intentional?s=t

Noticed this thread yesterday and thought it pretty silly, since all one could sensibly do is pointlessly join in on the condemnation, but apparently there are a few idiots who would try to excuse it as well. The only thing that could be said in support of the perpetrator or his supporters is that their minds have been perverted by Islam.
 
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WelshBloke

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serious question do you know the difference between a accident and a intentional act? Judging by yours and sandi retarded replies, It does not look like it.

Ah. So we accidentally launch missiles? That seems a bit careless!

No we deliberately launch missiles.

But at least I've found out where that line on killing children being ok is. As long as you say sorry after and dont cheer too much it appears that its ok enough that you can keep doing it without sanction.
 

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It's not dumb at all. It is quite astute. We all may apologize for Civilian Deaths, but we treat the people who commit those acts as Heroes and we kill Civilians again and again. He did what he did for the same reason we do what we do, not to kill Women/Children, but to kill the "Enemy".

Nah, sorry, I'm with Madoka on this one. Killing children unintentionally is not the same thing as killing them intentionally. That's like saying manslaughter is the same as murder. There's a reason we punish murder far more severely. I'm not saying that civilian casualties isn't a serious issue. It's very serious. I just don't agree with this moral equation and it honestly reads like apologia for the terrible crimes described in the OP's article.
 
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Nah, sorry, I'm with Madoka on this one. Killing children unintentionally is not the same thing as killing them intentionally. That's like saying manslaughter is the same as murder. There's a reason we punish murder far more severely. I'm not saying that civilian casualties isn't a serious issue. It's very serious. I just don't agree with this moral equation and it honestly reads like apologia for the terrible crimes described in the OP's article.
I'm not saying that they are the same thing.

Firing a gun into a crowd causing loss of life got the guy put in jail for 20 years and we all agree that he's an evil sod.

Firing missiles into a crowd causing loss of life gets no-one punished and people say that its an accident so no foul.

There seems a huge gap in the way people are viewing those things.
 

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Regardless of your political beliefs, the murder of innocent children should never be tolerated, let alone celebrated.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/jordan-releases-soldier-killed-7-israeli-girls-1997-234946546.html



Jordan executes their murderers and rapists, but killing Jews doesn't seem like much of a crime in their book:
What is this? Politics is more important than the truth day? Fortunately I missed the memo.

1) We don't intentionally kill innocent children.

2) If any are accidentally killed as collateral damage we don't celebrate the event.

3) Nor do we label the child killer a hero. Quite the opposite we take every step possible to prevent it and feel awful about it. At least the sane of us do.

4) Also we don't call the victims human garbage.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/intentional?s=t

Noticed this thread yesterday and thought it pretty silly, since all one could sensibly do is pointlessly join in on the condemnation, but apparently there are a few idiots who would try to excuse it as well. The only thing that could be said in support of the perpetrator or his supporters is that their minds have been perverted by Islam.

It's a simple matter of fact that the guy boasting about killing the families of "terrorists" is now the american conservative leader and president.

Also simple matter of very evident fact that adherents of that ideology will say/do anything to pretend they're not in the complete degenerate club.
 

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The comparison to civilian casualties from US actions is just stupid. If the US actually wanted to kill civilians, it could wipe out billions. In attempting to fight a terror/genocidal group, there are sometimes unfortunately civilian casualties. The US takes significant steps to prevent civilian deaths, it's just impossible to always avoid, especially when the enemy hides among civilians or even uses them as shields whenever possible.

To compare that with a guy mowing down innocent children is ridiculous. The celebration of what this murderer did is indefensible and inexcusable, shame on those Jordanians.
 

WelshBloke

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The comparison to civilian casualties from US actions is just stupid. If the US actually wanted to kill civilians, it could wipe out billions.

I'm not sure that "Well we could kill loads more but we didn't..." has ever been used as a defence before.


In attempting to fight a terror/genocidal group, there are sometimes unfortunately civilian casualties. The US takes significant steps to prevent civilian deaths, it's just impossible to always avoid, especially when the enemy hides among civilians or even uses them as shields whenever possible.

What you're saying is that its more convenient for us to kill those civilians than not to kill them.