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brianmanahan said:
oh yeah those were good times. the smoke at mcdonalds definitely accentuated the subtle flavor of the happy meals i was eating.

and my great-grandmas smoked so much that i think visiting her house a few times a year probably took a couple years off my expected lifespan.
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You used to be able to smoke in the doctors' offices, even had a couple of doctors who smoked...and in the hospital...except in rooms where o2 was in use.
 
pete6032 said:
Post some of your recent or very old nostalgic memories and see if anyone else remembers.

Remember when people used to brag about how many mp3s they had on their ipod or hard drive? Now days we don't even buy music. We just listen to streaming stations.
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Some of us still buy music 😀
But the $7 SD card in my phone holds more music than an entire iPod.
mindless1 said:
They rode smooth like sitting on your living room couch, and 8 MPG,, consider gas was 50 cents a gallon at the time?
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Smooth, sure, but they didn't exactly provide a lot in the way of road feel, and weren't great for more spirited driving. I liked my Grand Marquis, but I enjoy something more connected to the road.
 
mindless1 said:
They rode smooth like sitting on your living room couch, and 8 MPG,, consider gas was 50 cents a gallon at the time?

Plus they were inexpensive to repair. It was a better time unless someone can't drive to save their life and needs nanny features and ultimate performance just to safely drive the speed limit on public roads. The one exception is of course that we had to improve fuel economy because oil IS a renewable resource but only if we use it at an equal or lower rate than it is formed.

[rant]Ultimately this is the irony, that the only truly renewable resource is energy from the sun and it making biofuel from the plant matter the planet can sustain, whether oil or humans short stepping that process to make alcohol.[/rant] Wind? No. Solar? No. Nuclear? No. All these require raping the land and exhausting resources. Only solar generated biofuel is self sustaining in the long run.
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wow, you're insane.

so it takes about 50-120million years to make oil, and you call it renewable?

Letme guess, you envy those good old days because your favorite snack was the abundant lead paint chips that you could so easily find. I think you're chief complaint is that those evil regulators removed the lead from your life.
 
Remember when you had to acid etch Apple ][ clone mb because buying it was out of your wallet's reach?
 
zinfamous said:
wow, you're insane.

so it takes about 50-120million years to make oil, and you call it renewable?

Letme guess, you envy those good old days because your favorite snack was the abundant lead paint chips that you could so easily find. I think you're chief complaint is that those evil regulators removed the lead from your life.
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Taken out of context, I mentioned biofuel (continued support of ICE vehicles that otherwise depend on oil) and yes it is renewable from the source (plant matter) using man made processes or the shortcut which is biofuel/ethanol. Corn just isn't the right crop.

More efficient growing methods also sink away CO2.

I made no mention of lead, am glad it's no longer in *most* fuel except old piston engine aircraft et al.
 
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mindless1 said:
Taken out of context, I mentioned biofuel (continued support of ICE vehicles that otherwise depend on oil) and yes it is renewable from the source (plant matter) using man made processes or the shortcut which is biofuel/ethanol. Corn just isn't the right crop.

More efficient growing methods also sink away CO2.

I made no mention of lead, am glad it's no longer in *most* fuel except old piston engine aircraft et al.
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yeah, I didn't read that far. 😀

still, diesel. eh, it's better than petrol, but not very fun. agree with the complete waste that is corn. something like 60%? of our corn production is turned into generally wasteful ethanol which is stupid.

the majority of the rest for equally wasteful feed for way too much fucking beef. I love beef, but americans eat way too much of it and demand it being absurdly cheap. These are evil things, tbh.
 
BoomerD said:
Minimum wage in 1970 was $1.45-$1.50. that's about 4.25 gallons of gasoline at 35 cents/gallon. At $7/gallon, the minimum wage would be $29.75/hr.
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why would you tie the cost of an unnecessary luxury item like gasoline to that of minimum wage? it's stupid economics. Sure, the minimum wage is criminally low (this is what Reagan and the fascists keep giving us), but that's a different topic.
 
zinfamous said:
why would you tie the cost of an unnecessary luxury item like gasoline to that of minimum wage? it's stupid economics. Sure, the minimum wage is criminally low (this is what Reagan and the fascists keep giving us), but that's a different topic.
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I'm pretty sure you and I would both be dead in somewhat short order if gasoline (or fuel in general) just stopped being a thing. I suppose that being alive is a luxury, though, so you're correct.
 
Zor Prime said:
I'm pretty sure you and I would both be dead in somewhat short order if gasoline (or fuel in general) just stopped being a thing. I suppose that being alive is a luxury, though, so you're correct.
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Yes, clearly what he was proposing was the immediate abolishment of all fuels.
 
zinfamous said:
why would you tie the cost of an unnecessary luxury item like gasoline to that of minimum wage?
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Fuel is not an unnecessary luxury item unless you live in a cabin in the woods and your self-sustaining quality of life is quite low, and your lifespan near 1/3rd shorter than we have achieved today.

If you don't have a motorized vehicle, you still depend on the services of others who have one, and the more fuel (or energy in the case of electric) costs, the more those services and price of durable goods go up as well.

This hurts those making a (low) minimum wage the most, but if you want to do without all the infrastructure in your life that depends on fuel, have fun with that.
 
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nakedfrog said:
Yes, clearly what he was proposing was the immediate abolishment of all fuels.
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There's plenty of cause and effect in between the range of all/current or nothing consumption of fuels. At the same time, I do favor conservation, smaller vehicles and fewer trips, but being forced to do so because it's unaffordable not to, is a step backwards for society.
 
mindless1 said:
There's plenty of cause and effect in between the range of all/current or nothing consumption of fuels. At the same time, I do favor conservation, smaller vehicles and fewer trips, but being forced to do so because it's unaffordable not to, is a step backwards for society.
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You've absolutely and completely missed the point that was being made.
 
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