Remember when there was a valid reason to upgrade your CPU every 2 years?

StinkyPinky

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Well I've had my 2500k for close to 2.5 years now and I don't really see much reason to upgrade. Granted Haswell ain't out yet but I don't think it will be anything amazing in the desktop space. At this stage I probably won't even bother to upgrade until 2015.

The lack of competition from AMD is starting to show. :(
 

bgt

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Have my CPU's for 6-12 months and then upgrade. Whats the use of keeping old stuffD: money has to roll():)
 

cytg111

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I dont think lack of competition is much to blame here, it seems like we are finally approaching that wall of diminishing returns that have been forecast since the beginning of chips.
It is finally here.
We are going to have to come up with other ways to improve our compute than IPC and clocks if we want to continue on the progression curve. Instuction sets as avx, avx2 and tsx is advances towards that, the future is parallel, yet we lack the programming language to describe it.
Kind of really really sad.
:(
 

ShintaiDK

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Well I've had my 2500k for close to 2.5 years now and I don't really see much reason to upgrade. Granted Haswell ain't out yet but I don't think it will be anything amazing in the desktop space. At this stage I probably won't even bother to upgrade until 2015.

The lack of competition from AMD is starting to show. :(

Big no to the bolded part. You do know how Intel makes money right? Let me give you a hint, Its not by not selling CPUs.

Also you can always find someone who didnt upgrade for years due to no compelling reason. Even back in the 286 and 386 days.
 

lagokc

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Big no to the bolded part. You do know how Intel makes money right? Let me give you a hint, Its not by not selling CPUs.

Also you can always find someone who didnt upgrade for years due to no compelling reason. Even back in the 286 and 386 days.

Leave my 286 out of this, she runs Lynx just fine even if sometimes it does take a few hours to send a post.
 

Matt1970

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The OS has a lot to do with it. What ran Windows 3.1 efficiently struggled to run Windows 95/98. What ran 98 efficiently struggled to run XP. What ran XP efficiently struggled to run Vista. What ran Vista efficiently actually runs better with 7 and now even 8.
 

Matt1970

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Big no to the bolded part. You do know how Intel makes money right? Let me give you a hint, Its not by not selling CPUs.

Also you can always find someone who didnt upgrade for years due to no compelling reason. Even back in the 286 and 386 days.

I actually had someone bring me a 286 and ask if I could install 98 on it for them.
 

parvadomus

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Software must push hardware for it to advance, not AMD. Intel has to compete with their already sold CPUs, if they continue increasing IPC by 5% and not even adding more cores then nobody will upgrade.
 

moonbogg

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If haswell has 10% more ipc than Ivy, and if it OCs well, then thats a good reason for me to ugrade from my 3930k. The OCd haswell will perform a lot better than the 3930k, at least in games and likely most other things. Gaming is what I care about.
 

386user

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also in to learn how intel makes money

i was under the impression they sold cpus at very high margins
 

rgallant

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Well I've had my 2500k for close to 2.5 years now and I don't really see much reason to upgrade. Granted Haswell ain't out yet but I don't think it will be anything amazing in the desktop space. At this stage I probably won't even bother to upgrade until 2015.

The lack of competition from AMD is starting to show. :(

all things equal and has any oneone made games and gpu's that worked/ needed pci-3 could be a reason to keep what you have ,but gpu card reviewers can't see a reason to move to ib with broken pci-3 vs pci-e 2 in test with cards that seem to not to work with pci-e 3.0 . so stick with pci-e 2.0. WE all have broken systems. IMO
-I never see any reviewers listing the pci-e in coding chip pci-e 3.0 chip in any gpu review thus showing it does not matter on their x79 or sb systems er pci-2.0 test/review systems reviews of pci-e 3.0 cards ?
gtx780 + hsw will/might clean the benches of other gpu's because they fixed pci-e 3.0 [hard ware issues]not that it is a stronger card by xxx%
 
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Tsavo

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I replaced one with the exact same model.

I ran the old one out of oil, and the transistors started knocking, so I had to replace it.

:(
 

Zap

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I've had my i7 920 for 4 years :O

I went from a Core i7 965X to 975X, to 2500K, to 2600K and now to a 3570K. :\

I'm actually really glad I upgraded from socket 1366, but since then they were not much upgrades as much as me finding deals or getting bored with what I had.
 

Maximilian

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I went from a Core i7 965X to 975X, to 2500K, to 2600K and now to a 3570K. :\

I'm actually really glad I upgraded from socket 1366, but since then they were not much upgrades as much as me finding deals or getting bored with what I had.

Oh good im not the only one who gets bored and upgrades :D

i7 920 -> 2500k -> 2600k -> 3930k

All using the same goddamn radeon 5850! :oops:

I really need to save for a better GPU to go with these chips i keep getting.
 

Drsignguy

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Software must push hardware for it to advance, not AMD. Intel has to compete with their already sold CPUs, if they continue increasing IPC by 5% and not even adding more cores then nobody will upgrade.

Not speaking for anyone else but this is one of the reasons why I haven't upgraded to Ivybridge. Not much of an upgrade from my Sandybridge as far as I am concerned. I have seriously thought about it though.......Decided to wait and look into Haswell when it comes out. Will see.

My upgrades consisted of several SSD's.
 
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nitromullet

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I definitely get more excited about upgrading the gpu than I do the cpu. This i7 920 has been paired with a higher end card from both AMD and NVIDIA each generation since 2009. GTX 280, HD 5870, GTX 470 (SLI), GTX 580, HD 6950, GTX 560Ti 448 core, HD 7970, GTX 680, and GTX 670.

I guess I should mention that I did also own a 3930K for a few months, but I sold it before it dropped in value too much. The 3930K wasn't really a significant enough of an upgrade from the 920 considering the price IMO. The 3930K alone was about the same price as the 920, motherboard, and RAM. A Haswell rig may eventually replace the 920 though...