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Remember "The greatest love story ever told"?

Professor Ken Waltzer, the director of Michigan State University's Jewish Studies program, said he began raising questions to the agent and publisher in November, suggesting that the story was fabricated. But he says his numerous queries went unanswered.

He says he told the editor that the story is "at best embellished and perhaps invented."

"The idea of a prisoner being able autonomously to approach the fence not just once, but every day at the same time, ... none of it seemed plausible," Waltzer says. "That fence was right next to the SS barracks, so to go to the fence, which was also punishable by death, was to risk death."

In a letter to "The New Republic," which first began questioning the validity of the Rosenblats' story, Waltzer said he was also disturbed about why few others had come forward to point out holes in the couple's account.
because we're not all dicks
 
I saw this yesterday. I honestly don't get all the hubbub over these fake stories. Honestly, embellishment should be assumed. Real life only has rare and short instances of story-worthy material, even in some of the most adventurous people. No one wants to read about everything else. This is what novels are all about.

The main problem is that the industry has become saturated with this idea over the previous decade that only memoir will sell. Shame really, as it's such a limited genre that guarantees lies will surface. Unprepared, novice readers tend to feel slighted or duped if there is even a hint of embellishment; the audience has become spoiled.

Thing is, readers loved this story at first, now they despise the creator? What happened to the story? How would they have felt if it had been labeled "based on a true story?" People don't feel as duped when they go to "historical" films such as Elizabeth, Braveheart, Shakespeare in Love, etc....why not? These are all based on packs of lies and inventive imaginations.

There is nothing wrong with such stories, just the unreasonable expectations of spoiled readers.
 
Originally posted by: zinfamous
I saw this yesterday. I honestly don't get all the hubbub over these fake stories. Honestly, embellishment should be assumed. Real life only has rare and short instances of story-worthy material, even in some of the most adventurous people. No one wants to read about everything else. This is what novels are all about.

The main problem is that the industry has become saturated with this idea over the previous decade that only memoir will sell. Shame really, as it's such a limited genre that guarantees lies will surface. Unprepared, novice readers tend to feel slighted or duped if there is even a hint of embellishment; the audience has become spoiled.

Thing is, readers loved this story at first, now they despise the creator? What happened to the story? How would they have felt if it had been labeled "based on a true story?" People don't feel as duped when they go to "historical" films such as Elizabeth, Braveheart, Shakespeare in Love, etc....why not? These are all based on packs of lies and inventive imaginations.

There is nothing wrong with such stories, just the unreasonable expectations of spoiled readers.

The problem is he shouldn't of said it was true in the first place.
 
Originally posted by: zinfamous
I saw this yesterday. I honestly don't get all the hubbub over these fake stories. Honestly, embellishment should be assumed. Real life only has rare and short instances of story-worthy material, even in some of the most adventurous people. No one wants to read about everything else. This is what novels are all about.

The main problem is that the industry has become saturated with this idea over the previous decade that only memoir will sell. Shame really, as it's such a limited genre that guarantees lies will surface. Unprepared, novice readers tend to feel slighted or duped if there is even a hint of embellishment; the audience has become spoiled.

Thing is, readers loved this story at first, now they despise the creator? What happened to the story? How would they have felt if it had been labeled "based on a true story?" People don't feel as duped when they go to "historical" films such as Elizabeth, Braveheart, Shakespeare in Love, etc....why not? These are all based on packs of lies and inventive imaginations.

There is nothing wrong with such stories, just the unreasonable expectations of spoiled readers.

It's a problem for most historians. They try to keep truth from fantasy.
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Professor Ken Waltzer, the director of Michigan State University's Jewish Studies program, said he began raising questions to the agent and publisher in November, suggesting that the story was fabricated. But he says his numerous queries went unanswered.

He says he told the editor that the story is "at best embellished and perhaps invented."

"The idea of a prisoner being able autonomously to approach the fence not just once, but every day at the same time, ... none of it seemed plausible," Waltzer says. "That fence was right next to the SS barracks, so to go to the fence, which was also punishable by death, was to risk death."

In a letter to "The New Republic," which first began questioning the validity of the Rosenblats' story, Waltzer said he was also disturbed about why few others had come forward to point out holes in the couple's account.
because we're not all dicks

You mean like the guy who makes up a story that he tells everyone else is true? It's a great story, but he could have avoided the issue by writing a fictional book. People don't need to think a story's true to find it inspiring.

But obviously it's all the fault of the guy who called shens on the story. :roll:
 
Even Amedinijad knew this was a make believe story since the holocaust never happened. Foolish americans.
 
Originally posted by: thecrecarc
Originally posted by: zinfamous
I saw this yesterday. I honestly don't get all the hubbub over these fake stories. Honestly, embellishment should be assumed. Real life only has rare and short instances of story-worthy material, even in some of the most adventurous people. No one wants to read about everything else. This is what novels are all about.

The main problem is that the industry has become saturated with this idea over the previous decade that only memoir will sell. Shame really, as it's such a limited genre that guarantees lies will surface. Unprepared, novice readers tend to feel slighted or duped if there is even a hint of embellishment; the audience has become spoiled.

Thing is, readers loved this story at first, now they despise the creator? What happened to the story? How would they have felt if it had been labeled "based on a true story?" People don't feel as duped when they go to "historical" films such as Elizabeth, Braveheart, Shakespeare in Love, etc....why not? These are all based on packs of lies and inventive imaginations.

There is nothing wrong with such stories, just the unreasonable expectations of spoiled readers.

The problem is he shouldn't of said it was true in the first place.


i could not care less if it was made up, Same with that other book dude who was on oprah who made up some of it "million lil pieces" or whatever

just because some of hell even all of it is fake does not change the message
 
People believed this?

"The idea of a prisoner being able autonomously to approach the fence not just once, but every day at the same time, ... none of it seemed plausible," Waltzer says. "That fence was right next to the SS barracks, so to go to the fence, which was also punishable by death, was to risk death."
They didn't just let Germans walk up to the fence and take a look 😕
 
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: thecrecarc
Originally posted by: zinfamous
I saw this yesterday. I honestly don't get all the hubbub over these fake stories. Honestly, embellishment should be assumed. Real life only has rare and short instances of story-worthy material, even in some of the most adventurous people. No one wants to read about everything else. This is what novels are all about.

The main problem is that the industry has become saturated with this idea over the previous decade that only memoir will sell. Shame really, as it's such a limited genre that guarantees lies will surface. Unprepared, novice readers tend to feel slighted or duped if there is even a hint of embellishment; the audience has become spoiled.

Thing is, readers loved this story at first, now they despise the creator? What happened to the story? How would they have felt if it had been labeled "based on a true story?" People don't feel as duped when they go to "historical" films such as Elizabeth, Braveheart, Shakespeare in Love, etc....why not? These are all based on packs of lies and inventive imaginations.

There is nothing wrong with such stories, just the unreasonable expectations of spoiled readers.

The problem is he shouldn't of said it was true in the first place.


i could not care less if it was made up, Same with that other book dude who was on oprah who made up some of it "million lil pieces" or whatever

just because some of hell even all of it is fake does not change the message



yes both are great stories. but don't try to pass them off as something that really happened (wich is the real problem).

 
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: thecrecarc
Originally posted by: zinfamous
I saw this yesterday. I honestly don't get all the hubbub over these fake stories. Honestly, embellishment should be assumed. Real life only has rare and short instances of story-worthy material, even in some of the most adventurous people. No one wants to read about everything else. This is what novels are all about.

The main problem is that the industry has become saturated with this idea over the previous decade that only memoir will sell. Shame really, as it's such a limited genre that guarantees lies will surface. Unprepared, novice readers tend to feel slighted or duped if there is even a hint of embellishment; the audience has become spoiled.

Thing is, readers loved this story at first, now they despise the creator? What happened to the story? How would they have felt if it had been labeled "based on a true story?" People don't feel as duped when they go to "historical" films such as Elizabeth, Braveheart, Shakespeare in Love, etc....why not? These are all based on packs of lies and inventive imaginations.

There is nothing wrong with such stories, just the unreasonable expectations of spoiled readers.

The problem is he shouldn't of said it was true in the first place.


i could not care less if it was made up, Same with that other book dude who was on oprah who made up some of it "million lil pieces" or whatever

just because some of hell even all of it is fake does not change the message



yes both are great stories. but don't try to pass them off as something that really happened (wich is the real problem).

Exactly. If it's fiction, call it fiction.

KT
 
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