Remember me Link19 from years ago on these forums - The one who bashed and hated Windows 9X?? Yes I am the same person

Wolverine2349

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Does anyone remember Link19 who hated and bashed Windows 98/ME back in 2004-2006.

That was me. Yes I am the same person. I was in my early 20s then now I am last year of my 30s at 39 years old.

Its been a really long time. I stopped posting in late 2006. Eventually lost that account or something (no was never banned under that account despite some 9X lovers and even others asking for it as some found my rants annoying and ruining certain threads back then) or could not remember password and email account was closed so could not recover. Then I think I created a new account around 2010 then somehow lost that email or password years later then came onboard with this account in the last few years.

Do any long time lurkers remember me and my hatred and rants against Windows 9X back then? I imagine many lurkers have since been long gone but anyone still left either under the same alias or a different one who remembers.

Its stunning it has been 17 years since 2006 here in 2023. I mean time really flies.

I hated Windows 9X back then because it bothered me that it was completely different form NT (XP and 2000 at the time) and software makers continued to support it too long with same binaries compatible with 2 district OS archs and I had thoughts of cross platform emulation and reduced performance as opposed to native same NT OS (aka Linux on wine as opposed to native Linux apps example). Plus I thought 9X very inferior based on my Dad's thoughts form IBM vendors and other techs who stated Windows was awful compared to most other operating systems and when referred to Windows it was 9X, not the NT series. Those are where my hatred of 9X bashing came from because there was a superior product in NT available yet too much effort was pout into 9X back then and some agreed with me.

Anyway it was all water under the bridge and has been since like 2007-2008. And they stopped with ME in 2000, but the software makers foot dragging compatibility with 98/ME in addition to the completely different 2000/XP through 2004 2005 and even 2006 to some extent probably held back Windows and software performance at the time or I thought it did. But that was so long ago and water under the bridge now and for a long while.

I guess good to say high to those who remember form a long while ago and those new here now.
 
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lxskllr

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Name sounds familiar. Can't fault you for hating 9x. It was what it was back in the day, but had no reason to exist after NT became a thing.
 

Wolverine2349

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Name sounds familiar. Can't fault you for hating 9x. It was what it was back in the day, but had no reason to exist after NT became a thing.


Yeah agree with that. Like yeah in 1995-1996 maybe it was necessary, but certainly not existing in 2002-2006 with the support it had being totally different heritage from NT and also far inferior.

Kind of like how when MAC OS X became a thing classic MAC OS just died as they were completely different and native OS X apps became a thing soon.

Back then I had waited for native 2000/XP apps ands it seemed to take way to long to happen despite XP being released in late 2001 which was finally Microsoft doing what it should and making consumer Windows NT And DX9 being compatible with 98/ME too in early 2003 (over 1 year after XP was released which was very disappointing.

Though DX9 evolved a lot and was like DX 9.XXX with X being greater than 1 eventually and later versions were completely incompatible with 98/ME by like 2007 or something and game per got better I remember thinking.

Once NT became a thing yeah 9X had no reason to exist. That should have been the case really since the late 90s at the earliest. Though that part was water under the bridge in 2002-2006, but I was arguing then to try and get 9X killed due to my disappointment of not seeing 2000/XP only games and apps back then and it took like until 2006 for it to happen with most apps and even then.

Though we are so far past even Vista let al one XP and even 7 end of support its all water under the bridge. Though Windows 10 and now WIN11 still evolutions of Windows NT just like current MAC OS versions are form same heritage and have been for yes over 20 years on all PCs and MACs sold (Well excluding ChromeBooks of course which have custom Linux)
 

brianmanahan

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an os/2 warp fanboi?


that's cool, warp seemed pretty neat, shame i never got to try it
 

Wolverine2349

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an os/2 warp fanboi?


that's cool, warp seemed pretty neat, shame i never got to try it


Yes if the best tech won we would all being using OS/2 many thought inc lauding my Dad whose workplace at a big bank had a big partnership with IBM.

Though never happened as IBM support was terrible for it despite it supposedly being better tech and thus it had no ecosystem or support. Well it was better tech than Windows 9X by far. As compared to Windows NT, not sure. Probably yes at the time certainly much better tech at emulating old DOS and Windows programs without any real legacy DOS code in the system or that's what I was told and believed.

Though I remember all kinds of techs who stated OS?2 was Windows NT ancestor yet heard that was really not true and NT.

Like Windows NT was written from scratch and not evolved from OS/2 Though didn't it written from scratch with the same ideas as OS?2 kind of like how Linux was written form scratch and shared no code with BSD< but used the same concepts and ideas? Or is that wrong?

I have heard many different stories.

I did use OS/2 WARP a bit in the 90s as my Dad got a copy for free from the bank as cortesy of IBM and it did feel smoother and more stable than Windows 9X in running its mnative apps form what I remember.

Though when my Dad switched to WIN95 in 1996 because thats where all software was going to.

It ran some Windows 3.1 programs much better than OS/2 though I remember I think its native apps were not quite as smooth and less stable. But of course it ran WIN 3.1 programs better as it where an evolution of WIN 3.1 and shared same heritage/ancestry and thus WIN 3.1 apps were native to Windows 95 OS arch.
 
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Red Squirrel

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I don't remember you, but I lived through 9x and remember the frustration of dealing with random lockups, BSODs, stuff that errors out, the slowness etc... I weirdly miss that era of OS though as functionally (when it worked) it was superior than the crap they got going on now, but what they have now is always way more stable. I switched to Linux when I saw the abomination that is windows 8. 11 is not that much better, with trying so hard to push people to make a cloud based account. They are trying to treat our PC like a phone.
 

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3 hour interview with Dave Cutler from Microsoft by Dave Plummer, retired MS programmer. They talk about all kinds of OSes.

 

Wolverine2349

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I don't remember you, but I lived through 9x and remember the frustration of dealing with random lockups, BSODs, stuff that errors out, the slowness etc... I weirdly miss that era of OS though as functionally (when it worked) it was superior than the crap they got going on now, but what they have now is always way more stable. I switched to Linux when I saw the abomination that is windows 8. 11 is not that much better, with trying so hard to push people to make a cloud based account. They are trying to treat our PC like a phone.


Yeah like XP and 2000 and Windows 7. Much better than the phone home crap OS they are throwing on us now which is trying to spy on us and control us.
 
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