Religious leaders slam Clinton over emails while ignoring Trumps sexual transgressions

Puffnstuff

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I'm confused here http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/13/polit...hillary-clinton-campaign-wikileaks/index.html. I've never seen an email in court over sexually assaulting another person. If you flash emails in public nobody gets charged with a lewd act. You can show emails to your children and chances are they've handled emails many times without being harmed in any way. Donald Trump on the other hand would touch your young daughter if she looked good enough. Once again this is a clear example of "Confirmation Bias" which is a barrier to effective decision making because people will always look for evidence that supports their own personal beliefs while refusing anything that is contrary to this belief.

Can you right wing religious fanatics look at someone and honestly say that you'd leave your young daughter alone with Trump knowing that he's a professing molester of women? Would you leave your wife alone with him? He's married and cannot keep his hands off other women yet religious leaders continue back this slime ball. The bible clearly states in the 10 commandments "thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife" yet religious leaders ignore this willingly as they continue to push the radical right agenda. Personally I reject all religion as being subversive and their support of Trump reinforces my perception of this fact.

When religious leaders back a person who clearly doesn't adhere to their supposed morality doctrines I see it as harmful to those who follow the teachings and examples of such an organization. To me this would be like a doctor who publicly states that he respects life while secretly running a for profit abortion clinic. When he gets caught in the contradiction supporters use the fact that he helps people at a well known hospital as proof that he's a great guy while ignoring the contradictory activities at the abortion clinic. Same could be said for a cop who is well respected in the community for taking drunk drivers off the road who turns up causing a fatal accident because he was DWI himself. Do you offer leniency because you like him or do you seek justice just like with everyone else who committed the same infraction? The dilemmas just keep on coming and the religious right just keeps on coming from the right with their willful blinders on.
 
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MajinCry

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Ten commandments is Old Testament. Besides, it says "Thou shalt not covet", not "Thou shalt not accost". Lust is bad, but acting on it is okay.

Besides, you don't want these dudes actually reading their book; I'd rather we keep Leviticus and Deuteronomy away from the fundies.
 
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Starbuck1975

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Nothing to be confused about. Some religious leaders are no more or better than any other political partisans, and as such are hypocrites.

To your point, innocent until proven guilty on sexual assault allegations, at least that is what Clinton fans keep telling me, but I would not trust to leave a female alone with Trump or Bill Clinton.

Similarly, I would not feel safe with my children in the armed forces of either a Trump or Clinton administration.
 

Puffnstuff

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I didn't agree with what Bill did nor did I vote for him. What I did do this time is look at he qualifications of both mainstream candidates and Hillary clearly posses the skill sets necessary to run the government. Trump has an accusing spirit which is what people in trouble do every time they run into opposition. Donald threw Bill's activities out during the last debate and Hillary could've reciprocated by reminding the audience of Melania's lewd photo shoots depicting lesbianism which is supposed to be rejected by Christians yet is embraced by them. This is why we as a people are in trouble right now when evidence can be presented to us and we reject it because it doesn't conform to what we want to believe. Next religious leaders will want us to believe that there's life on other planets when the bible says that he created life on this one alone.
 

brycejones

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All that matters is abortion. As long as you promise to try to overturn roe v wade you could grab as many women by the pussy as you want. Just don't force your rape victims to get an abortion. The whacked out religious right will still vote for you.
 
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sportage

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They are only concerned about two men doing the old bumpy bump.
Raping, groping, molesting, lying, snorting coke, that is of no concern to them.
Again I say in a satirist perverted way, I do hope Trump is elected.
Trump losing is not going to melt down the republican party into a glob a runny smelly slime.
Trump winning and everyones 401K's, stocks, investments, jobs, homes and families crashing WILL absolutely cause the republican party to melt down into a glob of runny smelly slime.
That just might be worth watching.

If Donald is elected, I highly recommend every American having an exit plan.
I hear the Bahamas are very nice, maybe Canada could take in a few American refugees escaping a tyrant Trump government, and for those Christians the Rapture might be an option. God willing.
As for me?
I've booked six tickets to Brazil.
 

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Religion and hypocrisy are long standing bedfellows. Most of religion makes no sense and much of it contradicts reality. It's a common tool of those in power, or pursuit of it, to pander to and manipulate the gullible who have bought in to one of the various fairy tales out there.

It really doesn't surprise me that the ultra right extremist political faction of the US is so doubled down on religious nonsense. This is a demographic that has a proven susceptibility to low information emotional hooks with an aversion to reality. Religion is right in their wheelhouse. This is a group that will choose to believe the truth is what they want it to be, not what it is proven to be or still unknown due to a lack of proof.
 
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Religion and hypocrisy are long standing bedfellows. Nothing about religion makes sense and much of it contradicts reality. It's a common tool of those in power, or pursuit of it, to pander to and manipulate the gullible who have bought in to one of the various fairy tales out there.
I agree with you sir as religion has been a long standing form of mind control allowing people within it's structure to wield unprecedented control and influence over the masses. I know this all sounds weird coming from an actual Christian but this garbage is just too much for me to remain silent. The bible also tells Christians to flee from the appearance of all evil which the church clearly doesn't do anymore.
How can you tell that I'm an actual Christian? Because I can pass the biblical litmus test of I John 4:1-2 which states that only a Christian can confess that Jesus is God in the flesh. Everyone else falls into the group of church actors, aka the 5 virgins without oil in their lamps.
 
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I wish I could I say I am surprised. But no way am I. I learned at an early age what most of these religious 'leaders' are, con men/women. Only looking to make a buck, and at the expense of the people who fall for it. My grandmother was one of them, she religiously watched (pun intended) several 'shows' and got duped into sending them thousands of dollars over the decades.
So yea, these 'leaders' backing another con-man? Who the fvck is actually surprised by that?
 

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And in other news: a bunch of religious leaders (assclowns) prove their hypocrisy once again by defending Trump's sexual predator-like behavior, much like how they defended Sarah Palin when her daughter got married out of wedlock.

At this point, I'm just waiting for one of these idiots to be busted or exposed for having a secret gay-lover affair within their church. :kissing:
 

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It seems nuts that Trump's base consists largely of redneck trailer trash living off the government teat. Most of his base is only alive and indoors due to the socialist programs the GOP is constantly trying to dismantle.
Because religion.
 

Puffnstuff

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If I'm honest I see bias on both sides of the aisle and have to keep myself in check by performing a rhetorical analysis to reveal my own biases. Once I can clearly see where I am biased then I can push away from them and see the issue in a different light. This is what led to me ripping the email issue that the republicans are harping on so much these days as a diversion away from other more important matters like the personal integrity of people. The religious right seems to have forgotten that the love of money is the root of all evil.
 
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I wish I could I say I am surprised. But no way am I. I learned at an early age what most of these religious 'leaders' are, con men/women. Only looking to make a buck, and at the expense of the people who fall for it. My grandmother was one of them, she religiously watched (pun intended) several 'shows' and got duped into sending them thousands of dollars over the decades.
So yea, these 'leaders' backing another con-man? Who the fvck is actually surprised by that?

 
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Puffnstuff

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My other issue with Trump's religious backers is that the bible also states that women should be of modest attire and we see their pick for the first lady dressed in anything but modest attire. Just google Melania and take a look at all of the images for yourself and tell me this is what a Christian is supposed to dress like. The hypocrisy is just so overwhelming this election cycle that I just can't believe my eyes and ears.
 

KMFJD

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http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/28/politics/donald-trump-evangelicals/

Donald Trump, touting the support he's received from evangelicals in this battleground state, called on his supporters at a rally here to identify themselves as "Christian conservatives."

Then, he asked those who aren't to raise their hands and jokingly questioned whether he should "keep them in the room."
"Raise your hand, Christian conservatives everybody," Trump said, drawing a smattering of cheers and raised arms.
And then, he added: "Raise your hand if you're not a Christian conservative, I want to see this, right. That's -- oh, there's a couple, but that's all right. I think we'll keep them right? Should we keep them in the room, yes? I think so."


smh
 

Starbuck1975

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Sad; normally the military is such a safe place for our children.
During times of peace, the military is an excellent catalyst for socioeconomic mobility not to mention the societal service aspect and the integration of diverse people from all walks of life.

The military is not a great place to be under administrations with no sense for foreign policy. Trump is a loose cannon. Clinton had "experience" but also demonstrated poor judgement.
 

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Blessed are the Pussy Grabbers, for they shall have a handful of Pussy.....
....In that day the the haughty women, the established, and the e-mailers of all sorts shall be cast into the everlasting lake of fire....
 
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trenchfoot

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When Trump got the nomination, one of my first thoughts was what a yuuge problem he would be for the religious fundies that for all intents and purpose define what the Repub Party is all about. Well, here we are, and here they are, enthusiastically supporting a guy who is the quintessential antithesis of a Christian Fundamentalist.

Talk about weird bedfellows. This one's over the top. This one's a tragicomedy of the highest order.

Donald, you con man of all the con men, look who you conned into backing your scam of the century: the most loyal of the loyal conservatives. That you are literally making fools of them and using them against their own beliefs must give you a woodie that even Pinocchio would be envious of.

I salute you. I kneel and bow at your feet for attempting to pull off the grandest scam of all time.
 

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I agree with you sir as religion has been a long standing form of mind control allowing people within it's structure to wield unprecedented control and influence over the masses. I know this all sounds weird coming from an actual Christian but this garbage is just too much for me to remain silent. The bible also tells Christians to flee from the appearance of all evil which the church clearly doesn't do anymore.
How can you tell that I'm an actual Christian? Because I can pass the biblical litmus test of I John 4:1-2 which states that only a Christian can confess that Jesus is God in the flesh. Everyone else falls into the group of church actors, aka the 5 virgins without oil in their lamps.

So that is the true Scotsman test for Christians, a few words?

And here we were led to believe that it takes more than that.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who calls me Lord will enter God’s kingdom. The only people who will enter are those who do what my Father in heaven wants.

22 On that last Day many will call me Lord. They will say, ‘Lord, Lord, by the power of your name we spoke for God. And by your name we forced out demons and did many miracles.’

23 Then I will tell those people clearly, ‘Get away from me, you people who do wrong. I never knew you.’

Matthew 25:31-46

31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
 

Puffnstuff

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That is all true and once you've confessed your sins to Jesus and obtained forgiveness you will possess the spirit of God which will allow you to pass the litmus test. It is there for one Christian to discern another one and it's the only way to know for sure because anybody can say that they're a Christian. Take Donald for instance who panders to the religious right and recently became a church actor in order to gain support from the religiously blind sheeple..
 

theeedude

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If Trump has accomplished anything this election that's good for the country is expose these religious right hucksters for who they really are.