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Religious based tax cuts for housing, paychecks, books, etc?

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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/11/busin...ff24164bf9aae&ei=5094&partner=homepage

Pastor Warren will also be remembered as their champion in a fight over the most valuable tax break available to ordained clergy members of all faiths: an exemption from federal taxes for most of the money they spend on housing, which typically represents roughly a third of their compensation. Pastor Warren argued that the tax break is essential to poorly paid clergy members who serve society.

The tax break is not available to the staff at secular nonprofit organizations whose scale and charitable aims compare to those of religious ministries like Pastor Warren?s church, or to poorly paid inner-city teachers and day care workers who also serve their communities.

The housing deduction is one of several tax breaks that leave extra money in the pockets of clergy members and their religious employers. Ministers of every faith are also exempt from income tax withholding and can opt out of Social Security. And every state but one exempts religious employers from paying state unemployment taxes ? reducing the employers? payroll expenses but also leaving their workers without unemployment benefits if they are laid off.

The deduction, usually called the parsonage exemption, is available to ministers, rabbis and other clergy members of all faiths working at houses of worship. It allows them to live in congregation-owned housing without being taxed on the imputed value of their free housing, as almost all other employees are when they live in company-paid housing.


First off since when do the clergy serve SOCIETY????
They serve their faith and their flock.
Second off, why should Americans have to pay taxes to support Muslim fanatics who preach hatred of America?
 
There's a Baptist minister in the town where I live who drives a Ferrari, and that's all I'm going to say about that.
 
Originally posted by: ayabe
There's a Baptist minister in the town where I live who drives a Ferrari, and that's all I'm going to say about that.

And whats wrong with that? People don't care about how mucha pastor makes until he makes $1 more than them!
 
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: ayabe
There's a Baptist minister in the town where I live who drives a Ferrari, and that's all I'm going to say about that.

And whats wrong with that? People don't care about how mucha pastor makes until he makes $1 more than them!

The problem is he isn't paying taxes.
 
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: ayabe
There's a Baptist minister in the town where I live who drives a Ferrari, and that's all I'm going to say about that.

And whats wrong with that? People don't care about how mucha pastor makes until he makes $1 more than them!

The problem is he isn't paying taxes.

and cutting a lil offering off the top maybe?
 
I am always saying that religion organizations are all about the money, from the vatican to the television evangelists.

Jesus had nothing and built no Idols in Gods image He preached from the roadside.

Put that money toward the people who truely need it.
 
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: ayabe
There's a Baptist minister in the town where I live who drives a Ferrari, and that's all I'm going to say about that.

And whats wrong with that? People don't care about how mucha pastor makes until he makes $1 more than them!

The problem is he isn't paying taxes.

And you know this how Do you even know all of the tax exemptions for clargy? I'm guessing not.
 
Originally posted by: ayabe
There's a Baptist minister in the town where I live who drives a Ferrari, and that's all I'm going to say about that.

You must live in Houston.
 
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: ayabe
There's a Baptist minister in the town where I live who drives a Ferrari, and that's all I'm going to say about that.

And whats wrong with that? People don't care about how mucha pastor makes until he makes $1 more than them!


Get a clue.


 
I'm a CPA.

The article is making a bigger deal of the "tax free" housing than it really is. The pastor's home is generally on the church property. He and his family are usually required to live there so they can tend to the church and be on call pretty much 24/7. It's not usually actual "cash" for housing, it's "imputed" income.

Contrary to the authors assertion, this type exemption is available to any "regular" employee meeting those circumstances - required to live onsite at a location for the employers convenience. Since employees of charitable organizations and day care facilities don't meet this requirement (basically a 9-5 job) they do not get tax free housing.

More common still is the exemption for tax-free housing (cash too BTW) for employees required to go work at a location for temporary periods (less than a year) and those who work abroad.

Fern
 
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: kingtas
Jesus had nothing

LOL! What an ignorant statement.

You probably don't even know a real christian

I wonder if that pastor driving the ferrari knows any of gods children who are terribly poor and who are starving and uneducated and have trouble finding work etc..

YOU are the perfect example of an American Christian..
 
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: kingtas
Jesus had nothing

LOL! What an ignorant statement.

You probably don't even know a real christian

I wonder if that pastor driving the ferrari knows any of gods children who are terribly poor and who are starving and uneducated and have trouble finding work etc..

YOU are the perfect example of an American Christian..

Heh, I agree with you in most respects, but I'd not lump it as American Christian vs not. I'd lump it as greedy moron Christian vs not.

The Vatican, probably the greatest example of greed and lust of power, isn't located in America. It was built off of the backs of the poor who were suckered into thinking that the Church needed it. It's too bad men believe they know the word of God when the only thing they can do is covet power and money using subjugation as a vehicle to achieve them.

 
I agree with Fern on this. I don't understand why anyone would make a big deal about this. The overwhelming majority of clergymen make what amount to peanuts anyway. There are so many other abuse of our tax dollars that this shouldn't be on our radar.
 
Originally posted by: ayabe
Churches et al are like Walmart, they are selling a product, and should be taxed accordingly.

If churches, or any other 501(c)(3) organization, sell a product(s) like other for-profit businesses they are taxed. See Form 990-T and instructions.

Fern
 
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: ayabe
Churches et al are like Walmart, they are selling a product, and should be taxed accordingly.

If churches, or any other 501(c)(3) organization, sell a product(s) like other for-profit businesses they are taxed. See Form 990-T and instructions.

Fern


ZOOOM...


I think you missed something, it just went by your head.
 
Originally posted by: kingtas
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: kingtas
Jesus had nothing

LOL! What an ignorant statement.

So enlighten me, oh knowledgeable one.

I thought so. The only ignorant statement was yours.

I have a job to do during the day so i am just getting back to you.

I would ask you, why did they cast lots for Jesus' clothes when he was hanging on the cross for your sins?
 
Originally posted by: kingtas
Oh, ok, he had clothes. Are you serious? Don't be a moron.

Your ignornce is showing through. Again I will ask you, why did they cast lots for Jesus' clothes? Go read your Bible if you are so sure of yourself. I'll give you a hint: What was so special about his clothes that they cast lots for them? It's there. open your eyes buddy.
 
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: kingtas
Oh, ok, he had clothes. Are you serious? Don't be a moron.

Your ignornce is showing through. Again I will ask you, why did they cast lots for Jesus' clothes? Go read your Bible if you are so sure of yourself. I'll give you a hint: What was so special about his clothes that they cast lots for them? It's there. open your eyes buddy.

Are you speaking of the robe and crown of thorns that he was made to wear just prior to the crucification? This was done by his tormentors to mock him. He did not wear this clothing throuout his life.

Perhaps you should open your eyes.
 
Originally posted by: kingtas
Are you speaking of the robe and crown of thorns that he was made to wear just prior to the crucification? This was done by his tormentors to mock him. He did not wear this clothing throuout his life.

Perhaps you should open your eyes.

They cast lots for HIS clothes. What was so special about HIS clothes? Answer me that. If you dont know, its ok, I will tell you. I'd rather have you find the answer for yourself though.
 
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