Religion of Peace

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

SolMiester

Diamond Member
Dec 19, 2004
5,330
17
76
The problem is that people don't apply the religious teachings in their daily lives. They talk about it, they think about it but they never actually do it. For example, the teaching, "Love thy enemy." Who in this rotten world loves his enemy? Another teaching, "Love thy neighbor." Who in this world truly loves his neighbor? I doubt very few if any at all. So religion is all talk and no action. True religion is long dead. Now, it's all a big show.

Add in long beards in some religions, garbs in others, and fancy looking places of worship in others. That is what is called religion. It's all external, superficial stuff with very little substance. Even the religious leaders don't follow any of the religious teachings so how can their followers?

err, wow!...Have you ever travelled?, where do you get this...Plenty of people practice their religion, just because you havent experienced it, doesnt mean it isnt happening!
 

MagickMan

Diamond Member
Aug 11, 2008
7,460
3
76
Not quite the same as tactics of ISIS/ISIL/Boko Haram/AQAP/etc.; however both evil and reprehensible. Merely a matter of degrees.

Hopefully the "pastor" will be arrested on assault and battery charges.

"Not quite"? "Merely a matter of degrees?" GTFO with that false equivalence horse shit. People like you are much more of a problem than Christians, you can't even identify what's truly fucked up anymore. Your brains have turned to mush due to your batshit ideology. :rolleyes:
 
Nov 30, 2006
15,456
389
121
The problem is that people don't apply the religious teachings in their daily lives. They talk about it, they think about it but they never actually do it. For example, the teaching, "Love thy enemy." Who in this rotten world loves his enemy? Another teaching, "Love thy neighbor." Who in this world truly loves his neighbor? I doubt very few if any at all. So religion is all talk and no action. True religion is long dead. Now, it's all a big show.

Add in long beards in some religions, garbs in others, and fancy looking places of worship in others. That is what is called religion. It's all external, superficial stuff with very little substance. Even the religious leaders don't follow any of the religious teachings so how can their followers?
You have a very distorted perception of religion and religious people in my opinion. Regardless, you are certainly entitled to your beliefs...just as they are entitled to their's regardless of how distorted you perceive their perceptions to be. Funny how that works.
 
Last edited:

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
39,802
20,406
146
Do unto others...

I'd love to see the Pastor take one in the chest from someone twice his size.
 

Londo_Jowo

Lifer
Jan 31, 2010
17,303
158
106
londojowo.hypermart.net
It is a religion of peace for the vast majority of Muslims (98.5%) that follow the pure form of Islam. The 1.5% who chose to practice a bastardized/evil interpretation of Islam is where the problem lies. Expecting the majority to rid themselves of the extremist is no more realistic than expecting citizens in US cities to rid themselves of gangs, thieves, murderers, rapist....etc.
 

shira

Diamond Member
Jan 12, 2005
9,500
6
81
Pew did a survey of Muslims in their home countries to determine their views on Sharia, suicide bombings, honor killings and other things. I find the results extrement depressing. For example, here were the figures on Honor Killings (these are the percentages who OPPOSE honor killings in all cases):

gsi2-chp3-11.png


Note that even in the most "permissive" of these countries, at least 18% of the population believes that honor killings are okay in some circumstances.

And here are the number on suicide bombings:

gsi2-chp2-9.png
:

These figures mean that tens of millions of muslims approve of suicide bombings of civilians under some circumstances. That's pretty scary.
 

alzan

Diamond Member
May 21, 2003
3,860
2
0
"Not quite"? "Merely a matter of degrees?" GTFO with that false equivalence horse shit. People like you are much more of a problem than Christians, you can't even identify what's truly fucked up anymore. Your brains have turned to mush due to your batshit ideology. :rolleyes:

Never said they were equivalent.

Yes, both acts are evil and reprehensible, it's a matter for degrees as to which is more evil and reprehensible.

Using violence to convert someone to your religion is always wrong/evil/reprehensible; sorry you can't see that simple fact.

You don't know what my ideology is so your claim that it's "batshit" is nonsense.
 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
12,892
572
126
err, wow!...Have you ever travelled?, where do you get this...Plenty of people practice their religion, just because you havent experienced it, doesnt mean it isnt happening!

One does not need to travel in order to see. You can know a lot by staying where you are.

If there was true religion being followed, the human race would be united and we would not have divisions. There would be no war. Notice I said "true" religion. Not the organized religions of today.
 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
12,892
572
126
You have a very distorted perception of religion and religious people in my opinion. Regardless, you are certainly entitled to your beliefs...just as they are entitled to their's regardless of how distorted you perceive their perceptions to be. Funny how that works.

Thank you at least respecting that.
 

MagickMan

Diamond Member
Aug 11, 2008
7,460
3
76
Never said they were equivalent.

Yes, both acts are evil and reprehensible, it's a matter for degrees as to which is more evil and reprehensible.

Using violence to convert someone to your religion is always wrong/evil/reprehensible; sorry you can't see that simple fact.

You don't know what my ideology is so your claim that it's "batshit" is nonsense.

I can, and do, say that, but weighing these things on the same scale is ignorant and stupid. We don't hand out life sentences in prison for simply shoving someone, like we do with murderers. It's a matter of a huge fucking number of degrees, not "merely a few". :\
 

Blanky

Platinum Member
Oct 18, 2014
2,457
12
46
Pew did a survey of Muslims in their home countries to determine their views on Sharia, suicide bombings, honor killings and other things. I find the results extrement depressing. For example, here were the figures on Honor Killings (these are the percentages who OPPOSE honor killings in all cases):

gsi2-chp3-11.png


Note that even in the most "permissive" of these countries, at least 18% of the population believes that honor killings are okay in some circumstances.

And here are the number on suicide bombings:

gsi2-chp2-9.png
:

These figures mean that tens of millions of muslims approve of suicide bombings of civilians under some circumstances. That's pretty scary.
Similar polls show a large number of muslims in Western countries who also hold sympathetic views to things like honor killings and terrorism.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/many-british-muslims-put-islam-first/
one in four British Muslims believe that last year's 7/7 attacks on London were justified...Seventy-eight percent support punishment for the people who earlier this year published cartoons featuring the Prophet Mohammed. Sixty-eight percent support the arrest and prosecution of those British people who "insult Islam."
 

Orignal Earl

Diamond Member
Oct 27, 2005
8,059
55
86
Pew did a survey of Muslims in their home countries to determine their views on Sharia, suicide bombings, honor killings and other things. I find the results extrement depressing. For example, here were the figures on Honor Killings (these are the percentages who OPPOSE honor killings in all cases):

gsi2-chp3-11.png


Note that even in the most "permissive" of these countries, at least 18% of the population believes that honor killings are okay in some circumstances.

And here are the number on suicide bombings:

gsi2-chp2-9.png
:

These figures mean that tens of millions of muslims approve of suicide bombings of civilians under some circumstances. That's pretty scary.

If the poll had included other religions from the same areas the results would be similar. Since honor killings are based on tradition and culture.

Additionally, according to a poll done by the BBC’s Asian network, 1 in 10 of the 500 Hindus, Sikhs, Christians and Muslims surveyed said they would condone any murder of someone who threatened their family’s honor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing

What does "in the defense of Islam mean" in the suicide bombing poll? Are they asking if some posters got their way and banned Islam would some people react violently?
 
Last edited:

alzan

Diamond Member
May 21, 2003
3,860
2
0
I can, and do, say that, but weighing these things on the same scale is ignorant and stupid. We don't hand out life sentences in prison for simply shoving someone, like we do with murderers. It's a matter of a huge fucking number of degrees, not "merely a few". :\

Article in OP said he punched the kid in the chest, not shoved him.

Also, I never claimed how many degrees, that's all on you.

An evil/reprehensible act is always wrong, especially when trying to convert another to your faith.