Religion debate with a 7 year old. Would you teach your kid this?

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musgrattios

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It's not the baby, it's life. Sorry, I didn't really think that the mom would have totally denied sex being involved. We just think that God made life and maintains life.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe
Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
so you all tell your kids santa claus is bullsh!t? and the easter bunny is bullsh!t? and everybody who says otherwise is full of sh!t?

gee, id love being your kid :roll:

age 7 is a little young to teach otherwise. imo.

At my house there is no easter bunny or santa, sorry. I told her the easter bunny was BS. She was introduced to santa through the tv and other kids. It didn't take her long to figure out santa was bs without my intervention (I wouldn't have told her). She has just as much fun knowing I bought a bunch of toys as she did the one year she thought some fat guy brought them.
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EatSpam

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Originally posted by: HotChic
Originally posted by: Nightfall
Originally posted by: HotChic
I dunno, until you want to tell your kid that God makes babies BY mommy and daddy having a lot of fun in the bedroom, it doesn't seem like it does any harm. Parents generally tell their kids stuff about the stork, or a cabbage patch, or whatever. Is it just the mention of God that bothers you about what the mom said, or the fact that she said the people at school were wrong?

Probably a little bit of both. I mean, a little truth has to come out here. At least in my mind. Course, I am not a parent either so I don't know much. I am just wondering how some parents here would address the situation with their kids without being too blunt and honest without getting too far fetched.

I figure it's a combination of age and situation. No parents wants to have a detailed birds & bees discussion in a grocery store with a 7 year old. I doubt the mom wants to hide the truth forever but wants to pick an appropriate age/place to educate her kid.

Doubtful. The mother is probably a proponent of abstinence education and believes that her daughter was put inside her by her god. It will be sadly amusing when her daughter gets pregnant at age 15.
 

Orsorum

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I'd rather be told the truth from an early age than be told a lie (and to my recollection I was never told such a thing).
 

mercanucaribe

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You should have asked the mom if she's the Virgin Mary. Isn't it blasphemy to claim that you experienced a virgin conception?
 

Landroval

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Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe
Originally posted by: musgrattios
Christians think that God really does the baby inside the womb. And really, do you think that sperm and egg is all there is to human life? Some people yell at us Christians for being intolerant, but hey, I never hear you telling an atheist that his beliefs are wrong. If a parent teaches that his/her beliefs, is that really too different from you teaching about politics? Parents always feel the need to give their children something to hold onto, and its usually whatever they believe.


No not all Christians believe that. I would say that most don't. At least the ones I know attribute the ability as a blessing from God not the actual baby.


Even if they feel god was involved, saying that the mom and dad are not part of it is pretty odd. When I was in 3rd grade several of my classmates were sexually active. Not recommending that, but I would hope by age 7 parents had given their children some form of explanation/warning.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: hscorpio
I often wonder what it would be like if parents didn't teach their kids about God/religion until their children were old enough to have developed some critical thinking abilities.
The child would become a searcher, and would spend its life seeking a truth. Perhaps eventually finding the truth but by that point the child would not know anything other than the way of the seeker and he would look at the Truth, set it down, and say, "Oh, that's nice.", and never have any clue what to do with it. The child would not tie himself to the Truth without much pain being inflicted upon him and he would bring others pain as well through his wavering and his pendulum-like motion through the joy of finding and the despair of having nothing for which to seek.

There is much that I would give to have been one of those children who was sure from the start.

I say bless those parents.

ZV
 

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my parents said it's when a man and woman love each other. I didn't know how it was bioligically done until I was about 8, and was sickened at the idea!
 

KarenMarie

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having a debate with a 7yr old is silly to begin with...

but telling her that tehy are made by God makes as much sense as telling them that the stork brings them.

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JustAnAverageGuy

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Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
As far as the Easter Bunny goes, well we BOTH believe in that. We actually saw him two easters ago... An abnormally large bunny was hopping around in the yard right next to, practically on top of, a cluster of eggs. Seeing IS believing.

I believed the Easter bunny was real for a hell of a long time too. Saw a bunny (real one)in my backyard. Look away for a second, bunny was gone, had a basket in the yard (middle of the yard, no way anybody could have snuck in while I was looking away).

It took them about 3 years to convince me he was fake after that :eek:
 

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: hscorpio
I often wonder what it would be like if parents didn't teach their kids about God/religion until their children were old enough to have developed some critical thinking abilities.
The child would become a searcher, and would spend its life seeking a truth. Perhaps eventually finding the truth but by that point the child would not know anything other than the way of the seeker and he would look at the Truth, set it down, and say, "Oh, that's nice.", and never have any clue what to do with it. The child would not tie himself to the Truth without much pain being inflicted upon him and he would bring others pain as well through his wavering and his pendulum-like motion through the joy of finding and the despair of having nothing for which to seek.
ZV

Apparently you never read The Missing Piece. Buy it. read it. seriously.

In defense of your stance, as my very devout, yet rational grandmother put it: "It's a good idea to teach them religion, because young people get to a stage where they rebel, and it is much better that they rebel against religion, rather than against something that would cause them more harm to rebel against"

.. and the woman in the store is messed up and will have a messed up kid
 

halik

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Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
so you all tell your kids santa claus is bullsh!t? and the easter bunny is bullsh!t? and everybody who says otherwise is full of sh!t?

gee, id love being your kid :roll:

age 7 is a little young to teach otherwise. imo.

hahah no my kid is convinced that santa is REAL and I think he also thinks that god is REAL. He also knows that my beliefs and his beliefs can differ at times.

As far as the Easter Bunny goes, well we BOTH believe in that. We actually saw him two easters ago... An abnormally large bunny was hopping around in the yard right next to, practically on top of, a cluster of eggs. Seeing IS believing.


heh,
lot of these things are age-inappropriate. Eventually the mommy-daddy version will get across, but for the time beaing 8 year old can go with the God thing. Not that different from the Stork version, really
 

CptFarlow

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I grew up being Mormon, which I still debate with my parents about these days. My parents told me the same thing.

"Mommy and Daddy say a prayer and in the morning mommy is pregnant." "But only do it if you are married, or else something bad will happen."

That was at age 7 or 8 also. I later found out the truth, by discovering pr0n. Lol.

She could have just left it at: "Yes, mommy and daddy make the baby."

It's just as bad as Santa Clause, making a lie a family tradition. It's funny though, it all originated from a single little mushroom...
 

EGGO

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Originally posted by: Baked
I love how religious fanatics brain fvck children at an early age so they can grow up to be religious fanatics just like them. My children will be religion free, thank you very much.

Actually, this might make the kid not so religious when she finds out God doesn't "put" the kid in the tummy of the mommy.
 

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
There is much that I would give to have been one of those children who was sure from the start.

I say bless those parents.

ZV

This reminds me of the guy in the matrix who regrets taking the red pill and decides he doesn't want to know the truth but instead wants to be reinserted into the matrix.

You wish to have been one of those children who were sure from the start, but it's not that they are sure, they just have never been given the choice to take the red or blue pill so to speak. There is a big difference between being sure of the truth, which imho no one ever truly is when it comes to God, and being indoctrinated from birth that something is the truth without question. I bet the children of muslim terrorists who are raised to want to be suicide bombers are 'sure' of the truth, but we know how ridiculous that is.

 

xSauronx

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Originally posted by: hscorpio
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
There is much that I would give to have been one of those children who was sure from the start.

I say bless those parents.

ZV

This reminds me of the guy in the matrix who regrets taking the red pill and decides he doesn't want to know the truth but instead wants to be reinserted into the matrix.

You wish to have been one of those children who were sure from the start, but it's not that they are sure, they just have never been given the choice to take the red or blue pill so to speak. There is a big difference between being sure of the truth, which imho no one ever truly is when it comes to God, and being indoctrinated from birth that something is the truth without question. I bet the children of muslim terrorists who are raised to want to be suicide bombers are 'sure' of the truth, but we know how ridiculous that is.

indeed, one of the things that put me out of my parents religion was the realization that pretty well anyone raised under one religion is just as *sure* about their religion being the right one, the true one as the next kid raised in a totally different religion. Brainwashing is brainwashing, and that's exaclty what I and my siblings received. I feel sorry for people who would welcome that, or wish it upon others children in the name of being sure of something.

So, Ill continue to sleep in, and have pancakes instead of communion crackers, thank you. If nothing else Im sure that I enjoy them far more than I do any church service I ever attended.
 

xirtam

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When she feels her child is ready, she'll help her understand that sex is the mechanism by which God makes babies.

I don't think it's appropriate for strangers to intervene in how parents choose to raise their children.
 

WyteWatt

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Originally posted by: Nightfall
So here I was shopping for groceries after work and I ran into a very interesting thing. There was a very attractive young lady who was about 7 months pregnant grabbing some stuff off a shelf. Right across from her and down a little ways was myself and another woman with her daughter. Her daughter couldn't have been more than 7-8 years old. Here is the conversation...

Daughter: Look mommy, she has a baby inside her.
Mom: Yes she does. You know who makes babies don't you?
Daughter: Yea, daddy and mommy make them.
Mom: No, thats not who makes them. You should know who makes them by now.
Daughter: Who?
Mom: Well, God makes all babies honey.
Daughter: I thought a mommy and a daddy made a baby.
Mom: Who told you that?
Daughter: Someone at school.
Mom: Well, they are wrong. God makes all babies.
Daughter: God puts a baby inside a mommy?
Mom: Yes.

Now, that last statement pretty much shut the kid up, but I have to think this isn't really an accurate statement. Why teach your kid something like this at such an early age. I can understand about not going into great detail, but to give out a blanket statement that "God makes babies" isn't really accurate.

your thoughts? Would you tell your child at least some kind of truth at this age?



What in the world are you doing paying attention to a 7 or 8 year old girl ? :disgust:
 

Would you rather the woman started talking about penises and vaginas in the middle of the supermarket?
 

DivideBYZero

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Originally posted by: cjgallen
I'd tell my kid the truth, then threaten to ground her for the rest of her life if I catch her making babies.

I want to meet all your daughters when it's time, cause they'll be guaranteed sluts.
 

Toastedlightly

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Her child, her way of raising it. I'm sure those of you with kids out there would do SOMETING that other people would disagree with. It is all a matter of who's raising the kid.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: xirtam
When she feels her child is ready, she'll help her understand that sex is the mechanism by which God makes babies.

I don't think it's appropriate for strangers to intervene in how parents choose to raise their children.