Relgious nutcase storms away from hairdresser

[yukichigai]

Originally posted by: DAGTA
At what point did the guy claim to suscribe to any religion? According to your post, he never did. You do know it's possible to be atheist or agnostic and still think 'homosexuality is an abomination'? Seems to me you belong in the same category as the guy that got upset while getting his hair cut... intolerant. 😉

The word "abomination" is typically associated with a religion. Very rarely -- in fact I think not a single time -- have I heard anyone use the word "abomination" when not using it in some religious sense. (Except for talking about the Magic: The Gathering card "Abomination") The context is usually "an abomination before the eyes of God." I think that's in the Bible more than once. Chances are good the guy was heavily religious.

 

[Kipper]

He's another person with a worldview which shuns virtually 95% of the remainder of the world...big deal. There's plenty of them.

I vote on letting these people spew their unadultrated nonsense because it serves a few excellent purposes: a.) it makes those on the opposition come out stronger, b.) makes us feel all the more intelligent and/or well-educated, c.) strengthens the reality and actuality of some of these opinions.

If people want to hate or not face reality, let them. After all, they aren't harming anybody, so who am I to say that their idea of a good life is 'bad' in some way?

 

[Kipper]

Originally posted by: yukichigai

Originally posted by: DAGTA
At what point did the guy claim to suscribe to any religion? According to your post, he never did. You do know it's possible to be atheist or agnostic and still think 'homosexuality is an abomination'? Seems to me you belong in the same category as the guy that got upset while getting his hair cut... intolerant. 😉

The word "abomination" is typically associated with a religion. Very rarely -- in fact I think not a single time -- have I heard anyone use the word "abomination" when not using it in some religious sense. (Except for talking about the Magic: The Gathering card "Abomination") The context is usually "an abomination before the eyes of God." I think that's in the Bible more than once. Chances are good the guy was heavily religious.

You forgot Warcraft 3... 😉

 

[Amorphus]

So you heard a total of "Bush", "gays", and "homosexuality is an abomination". You're judging a man based on 6 words, 1/3 of which he didn't say? For all you know, the hairdresser was mocking him, his family, Bush, and his values. We all know that's what the leftist mob loves to do - "oh, you aren't in support of X? well, you're a bigot, and hate humanity."

Frankly, I think it's you who is "intolerant". :roll:

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: yukichigai

Originally posted by: DAGTA
At what point did the guy claim to suscribe to any religion? According to your post, he never did. You do know it's possible to be atheist or agnostic and still think 'homosexuality is an abomination'? Seems to me you belong in the same category as the guy that got upset while getting his hair cut... intolerant. 😉

The word "abomination" is typically associated with a religion. Very rarely -- in fact I think not a single time -- have I heard anyone use the word "abomination" when not using it in some religious sense. (Except for talking about the Magic: The Gathering card "Abomination") The context is usually "an abomination before the eyes of God." I think that's in the Bible more than once. Chances are good the guy was heavily religious.

While I agree with your analysis, you are still making an assumption... as are most of the people in this thread. We all know what assuming does...

 

[yukichigai]

Originally posted by: DAGTA
While I agree with your analysis, you are still making an assumption... as are most of the people in this thread. We all know what assuming does...

Just to nitpick, I wasn't assuming he was religious, just putting 95% odds on it. 😛 It's the OP who assumed.

 

[Fingolfin269]

The guy probably shouldn't have gotten upset but hell, we have no idea what was said to him. All we know is that he left in a huff and said 'homosexuality is an abomination'. It's easy to point fingers and lay blame on the guy when those are the two main points of information.

 

[PanzerIV]

Originally posted by: Amorphus
So you heard a total of "Bush", "gays", and "homosexuality is an abomination". You're judging a man based on 6 words, 1/3 of which he didn't say? For all you know, the hairdresser was mocking him, his family, Bush, and his values. We all know that's what the leftist mob loves to do - "oh, you aren't in support of X? well, you're a bigot, and hate humanity."

Frankly, I think it's you who is "intolerant". :roll:

LOL. Way to make some ASSumptions Amorphus. Read my post more closely and you will see I heard more of the conversation than I posted. I didn't know I was required to make a transcript of the entire conversation for your viewing pleasure. I put the most pertinent details in my post for an intelligent discussion which 99% of the other posters have engaged in.

Nothing personal but you did attack me without reading clearly.

 

[PanzerIV]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
The guy probably shouldn't have gotten upset but hell, we have no idea what was said to him. All we know is that he left in a huff and said 'homosexuality is an abomination'. It's easy to point fingers and lay blame on the guy when those are the two main points of information.

There was a bit more said that would put it in context but I conveyed the gist of the conversation for simplicity.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: PanzerIV

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
The guy probably shouldn't have gotten upset but hell, we have no idea what was said to him. All we know is that he left in a huff and said 'homosexuality is an abomination'. It's easy to point fingers and lay blame on the guy when those are the two main points of information.

There was a bit more said that would put it in context but I conveyed the gist of the conversation for simplicity.

I dunno your 'gist' of the conversation was 'Bush' 'Gays'. That doesn't really tell us a lot. She could have said 'I hope that mother fvcker Bush gets ousted so that the wonderul flowery gays get to make love in the streets with no problems.' or something. Again, all we know that she said are those two words and then his obvious response.

Hell, she could have said 'You never know, your daughter might end up being gay.'

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: yukichigai

Originally posted by: DAGTA
At what point did the guy claim to suscribe to any religion? According to your post, he never did. You do know it's possible to be atheist or agnostic and still think 'homosexuality is an abomination'? Seems to me you belong in the same category as the guy that got upset while getting his hair cut... intolerant. 😉

The word "abomination" is typically associated with a religion. Very rarely -- in fact I think not a single time -- have I heard anyone use the word "abomination" when not using it in some religious sense. (Except for talking about the Magic: The Gathering card "Abomination") The context is usually "an abomination before the eyes of God." I think that's in the Bible more than once. Chances are good the guy was heavily religious.

While I agree with your analysis, you are still making an assumption... as are most of the people in this thread. We all know what assuming does...

nobody here would be able to get through the day without making an assumption of one sort or another. you make an assumption that we're writing english and not some language that just looks awfully similar to it. so the issue is not whether or not someone makes an assumption, but whether or not that assumption is warranted. which, i think most reasonable people would agree, it is in this case.

 

[mavs55]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: yukichigai

Originally posted by: DAGTA
At what point did the guy claim to suscribe to any religion? According to your post, he never did. You do know it's possible to be atheist or agnostic and still think 'homosexuality is an abomination'? Seems to me you belong in the same category as the guy that got upset while getting his hair cut... intolerant. 😉

The word "abomination" is typically associated with a religion. Very rarely -- in fact I think not a single time -- have I heard anyone use the word "abomination" when not using it in some religious sense. (Except for talking about the Magic: The Gathering card "Abomination") The context is usually "an abomination before the eyes of God." I think that's in the Bible more than once. Chances are good the guy was heavily religious.

While I agree with your analysis, you are still making an assumption... as are most of the people in this thread. We all know what assuming does...

we all make assumptions. by your answers I'd say you live in academia.

 

[jyates]

Quote......... "I feel for his daughter who will be raised as much of an intolerant ass as her dad is"

Then your posting about this person's reaction makes you intolerant because you apparently
didn't tolerate his reaction did you?

People generally want to spout off about being tolerant but very few can actually
tolerate anything that goes against their grain.

It's the way we are made.

 

[NesuD]

Originally posted by: skace
I don't think religion has anything to do with it. That guy was just about a dumbass.

Exactly! a dumbass exactly like the dumbasses with the opposite opinion who shout you down and verbally abuse you for having an opinion different from theirs. I find it extremely amusing to read all the "what a jerk" type responses to his behaviour when more here than I care to count with pro Gay opinions have exhibited the identical type of behaviour in these forums on numerous occasions. While He probably did let his emotions get the better of him. He did acknowledge that "everybody is entitled to their opinion" which is a lot more than many of the aforementioned in this forum are willing to do.

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
Hairdresser screwed up by bringing up a touchy topic, but didnt do anything wrong. On the other hand, the guy is just an intolerant homophobe whose behavior was completely inappropriate.

On the other hand you could just as easily be characterized as an "Intolerant heterophobe"

Now didn't that sound stupid? :roll:

 

[LongCoolMother]

truer words have never been spoken.

 

[Phoenix86]

There are two things you don't discuss in mixed company. Politics and religion, somehow, she managed to hit BOTH topics.

Hairdresser=dumb for bringing up the topics, esp. in a business.
Guy=overreacting to the opinions of someone he likely knows little about and will never affect his life otherwise.

 

[Yo Ma Ma]

Originally posted by: PanzerIV
I was getting a haircut Saturday afternoon and while the lady was doing my hair I overheard some of the conversation from the chair across the aisle. I didn't pay attention to everything that was said but I heard a few of the words, most importantly "Bush" and "gays." The guy getting his haircut starts getting pissy and says "homesexuality is an abomination."

So, she is still conversing with him as they are apt to do in a friendly, passing the time away kind of thing when I hear him more loudly state "homosexuality is an abomination." At this point he says he is done with his haircut and would like to pay and leave. Fortunately for his dumb ass she was finished and I hear her saying she apologizes, etc. etc. He pays her, says in a huffy manner that everybody is entitled to their opinion although you could tell he wasn't sincere, and scoops up his daughter and leaves. As he passed by I said "What an idiot" hoping he would overhear but I don't know if he did.

Somebody that gets that out of line over an innocent hairdresser's comments WHILE she is giving him a haircut has some serious issues to work out. I feel for his daughter who will be raised as much of an intolerant ass as her dad is. I thought the whole thing was absurd and I wouldn't have apologized to him like the hairdresser did. I don't think that was the time or place to express your beliefs in such a confrontational manner.

What do you all think? Who was in the wrong here, the guy or the hairdresser?

Both, but mostly the hairdresser as she was operating in a business capacity at the time.

 

[dderidex]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Hell, she could have said 'You never know, your daughter might end up being gay.'

Actually, I say that to ALL people with kids who are being asshole homophobes. Why? Two reasons:
1) It's true. You really never DO know.
2) It really, really pisses them off. And, since that's what they were trying to do with me (unsuccessfully), I find the humor of the situation delicious.

EDIT: FWIW, the guy may well have brought it up. When the wife and I are 'choosing our friends', we tend to bring up hot-button political topics at incidental gatherings and such. IE., moving to a new town you try a couple different hair stylists, different coffee shops, pizza places, etc - how do you pick which one to go back to or which people, who you don't otherwise know, you'd hang around with? Well, the quickest way is 'hot-button political topics'. Everyone has an opinion - many very strong ones - and you can quickly sort out whether the person is worth spending any more time with or not. (IE., you can't really PICK new friends this way, but you can eliminate obvious incompatibilities without wasting any more time)

Granted, if someone IS totally the polar opposite of you (like, say, last person I had cut my hair WAS a total homophobe, and let me know in no uncertain terms), you just chalk one off the list and move on. You certainly don't throw a fit and storm out of the business.

 

[myusername]

Originally posted by: dderidex
When the wife and I are 'choosing our friends', we tend to bring up hot-button political topics at incidental gatherings and such ... if someone IS totally the polar opposite of you ... you just chalk one off the list and move on.

Hunh. That's a pretty darn good idea.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: myusername

Originally posted by: dderidex
When the wife and I are 'choosing our friends', we tend to bring up hot-button political topics at incidental gatherings and such ... if someone IS totally the polar opposite of you ... you just chalk one off the list and move on.

Hunh. That's a pretty darn good idea.

Until you realize that having all of your friends think just like you is going to lead to a stagnant life in terms of learning and experiencing other points of view.

 

[wkabel23]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Has anybody seen Riproarin's funny new haircut yet?

:laugh:

 

[myusername]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: myusername

Originally posted by: dderidex
When the wife and I are 'choosing our friends', we tend to bring up hot-button political topics at incidental gatherings and such ... if someone IS totally the polar opposite of you ... you just chalk one off the list and move on.

Hunh. That's a pretty darn good idea.

Until you realize that having all of your friends think just like you is going to lead to a stagnant life in terms of learning and experiencing other points of view.

The paradox, of course, is that someone who reacts like the man getting his hair cut fills that description perfectly.

While I understand what you are saying - and I think I agree - my interpretation of the "button pushing" was not to weed out anyone who does not have the same beliefs as you, as much as weeding out anyone who is unable to discuss the subject in a calm cogent manner.

Irrelevant, since in actuality I am a wannabe know-it-all pretentious prick, but it sounded nice.

 

Damned gays!

 

[Jumpem]

Originally posted by: PanzerIV
I was getting a haircut Saturday afternoon and while the lady was doing my hair I overheard some of the conversation from the chair across the aisle. I didn't pay attention to everything that was said but I heard a few of the words, most importantly "Bush" and "gays." The guy getting his haircut starts getting pissy and says "homesexuality is an abomination."

So, she is still conversing with him as they are apt to do in a friendly, passing the time away kind of thing when I hear him more loudly state "homosexuality is an abomination." At this point he says he is done with his haircut and would like to pay and leave. Fortunately for his dumb ass she was finished and I hear her saying she apologizes, etc. etc. He pays her, says in a huffy manner that everybody is entitled to their opinion although you could tell he wasn't sincere, and scoops up his daughter and leaves. As he passed by I said "What an idiot" hoping he would overhear but I don't know if he did.

Somebody that gets that out of line over an innocent hairdresser's comments WHILE she is giving him a haircut has some serious issues to work out. I feel for his daughter who will be raised as much of an intolerant ass as her dad is. I thought the whole thing was absurd and I wouldn't have apologized to him like the hairdresser did. I don't think that was the time or place to express your beliefs in such a confrontational manner.

What do you all think? Who was in the wrong here, the guy or the hairdresser?

I suppot him. Thumbs up!

 

[Jmman]

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: PanzerIV

What do you all think? Who was in the wrong here, the guy or the hairdresser?

Neither was in the wrong. Everybody IS entitled to their opinion. They're also entitled to be visibly angry about their opinion, even if it makes you uncomfortable.

It's not good for business, but there's nothing wrong with it.

Bingo......