Relgious nutcase storms away from hairdresser

PanzerIV

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I was getting a haircut Saturday afternoon and while the lady was doing my hair I overheard some of the conversation from the chair across the aisle. I didn't pay attention to everything that was said but I heard a few of the words, most importantly "Bush" and "gays." The guy getting his haircut starts getting pissy and says "homesexuality is an abomination."

So, she is still conversing with him as they are apt to do in a friendly, passing the time away kind of thing when I hear him more loudly state "homosexuality is an abomination." At this point he says he is done with his haircut and would like to pay and leave. Fortunately for his dumb ass she was finished and I hear her saying she apologizes, etc. etc. He pays her, says in a huffy manner that everybody is entitled to their opinion although you could tell he wasn't sincere, and scoops up his daughter and leaves. As he passed by I said "What an idiot" hoping he would overhear but I don't know if he did.

Somebody that gets that out of line over an innocent hairdresser's comments WHILE she is giving him a haircut has some serious issues to work out. I feel for his daughter who will be raised as much of an intolerant ass as her dad is. I thought the whole thing was absurd and I wouldn't have apologized to him like the hairdresser did. I don't think that was the time or place to express your beliefs in such a confrontational manner.

What do you all think? Who was in the wrong here, the guy or the hairdresser?
 

gopunk

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well the guy is stupid, obviously, but the hairdresser would probably do herself some good to stay away from topics that could potentially cause people to have that kind of reaction
 

djheater

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Originally posted by: PanzerIV

What do you all think? Who was in the wrong here, the guy or the hairdresser?

Neither was in the wrong. Everybody IS entitled to their opinion. They're also entitled to be visibly angry about their opinion, even if it makes you uncomfortable.

It's not good for business, but there's nothing wrong with it.
 

maziwanka

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eh. why bring up/discuss such controversial topics at a place of business....

if i were the hairdresser i would have switched topics or probably refrained from offering my opinion...
 

lakefire

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the hairdresser shouldn't really be bringing up topics llike that at work. and the guy shouldn't get so mad in that situation.

they are both wrong.
 

PanzerIV

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You guys are right about not even broaching the topic to begin with when you have powder kegs like him walking around...
 

skace

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I don't think religion has anything to do with it. That guy was just about a dumbass.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: PanzerIV

What do you all think? Who was in the wrong here, the guy or the hairdresser?

Neither was in the wrong. Everybody IS entitled to their opinion. They're also entitled to be visibly angry about their opinion, even if it makes you uncomfortable.

It's not good for business, but there's nothing wrong with it.

:beer:
 

yukichigai

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Depends. I'd have to know what the conversation was about, who started it, etc. before I could make an informed decision. So I will say only thus:

As a hairdresser your job is twofold: cut/style the customer's hair and make them feel at ease. More often than not this is accomplished by making light conversation, emphasis on the "light". The weather, the day's events, the top news stories are all fair game. Bringing up emotionally-charged topics like homosexuality, abortion, religion, etc. is a big no-no. If the customer steers the conversation that way then you should try to go with it as best you can, and if they start saying things directly counter to your opinion then you have a right to disagree. But it is the hairdresser's job to avoid such topics.

I suspect either the hairdresser got on a topic she shouldn't have, or the guy was a raving loon and railroaded the conversation to an touchy subject. Probably a 60% chance it was the hairdresser though.
 

Platypus

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Originally posted by: skace
I don't think religion has anything to do with it. That guy was just about a dumbass.



... did you read what he said?

The guy is an idiot for not being at least civil about the issue. Everyone is entitled to think what they want, but there is a difference between that and what he did. I feel so sorry for his child :(
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: PanzerIV

What do you all think? Who was in the wrong here, the guy or the hairdresser?

Neither was in the wrong. Everybody IS entitled to their opinion. They're also entitled to be visibly angry about their opinion, even if it makes you uncomfortable.

It's not good for business, but there's nothing wrong with it.

there's a difference between having the right to do something, and being right in doing something. most of us would agree that there are some behaviors that, while you are entitled to engage in, are not that socially acceptable. which is presumably what the OP meant by "right".
 

mavs55

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Originally posted by: gopunk
well the guy is stupid, obviously, but the hairdresser would probably do herself some good to stay away from topics that could potentially cause people to have that kind of reaction

:beer:
 

PanzerIV

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Originally posted by: skace
I don't think religion has anything to do with it. That guy was just about a dumbass.

I agree with you in that I didn't create this thread as any type of religion bashing in general but he invoked religion in his statements, thus, in this case the asshat and religion went hand in hand.
 

djheater

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: PanzerIV

What do you all think? Who was in the wrong here, the guy or the hairdresser?

Neither was in the wrong. Everybody IS entitled to their opinion. They're also entitled to be visibly angry about their opinion, even if it makes you uncomfortable.

It's not good for business, but there's nothing wrong with it.

there's a difference between having the right to do something, and being right in doing something. most of us would agree that there are some behaviors that, while you are entitled to engage in, are not that socially acceptable. which is presumably what the OP meant by "right".

Well... that's a matter of perspective.

By that rationale neither is "right" and both are "wrong" depending on how you feel about Bush and homosexuals, not to mention the location and clientele of the hairdresser. That information was not in the OP so I want with an "in general". I understand and appreciate your point but I still think what I said is valid as an answer to the OP.
 

GasX

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The guy is an ass and the hairdresser should be told by her boss to not discuss hot button issues with clients...
 

nakedfrog

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You're in the wrong. You definitely should have gouged out his eye with your shiv.
 

skace

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Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: skace
I don't think religion has anything to do with it. That guy was just about a dumbass.
... did you read what he said?

The guy is an idiot for not being at least civil about the issue. Everyone is entitled to think what they want, but there is a difference between that and what he did. I feel so sorry for his child :(

Let me clarify, I was calling the guy who walked out of his haircut a dumbass. In other words, I agree with you :).
 
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Hairdresser screwed up by bringing up a touchy topic, but didnt do anything wrong. On the other hand, the guy is just an intolerant homophobe whose behavior was completely inappropriate.
 

PanzerIV

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Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
Hairdresser screwed up by bringing up a touchy topic, but didnt do anything wrong. On the other hand, the guy is just an intolerant homophobe whose behavior was completely inappropriate.


:thumbsup:

Good summary. :)
 

DAGTA

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At what point did the guy claim to suscribe to any religion? According to your post, he never did. You do know it's possible to be atheist or agnostic and still think 'homosexuality is an abomination'? Seems to me you belong in the same category as the guy that got upset while getting his hair cut... intolerant. ;)
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: DAGTA
At what point did the guy claim to suscribe to any religion? According to your post, he never did. You do know it's possible to be atheist or agnostic and still think 'homosexuality is an abomination'? Seems to me you belong in the same category as the guy that got upset while getting his hair cut... intolerant. ;)

at what point did the person claim to be a guy? its possible it was just a really manly looking woman