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Reinstalled PSU, now monitor says No Signal

AtaruMoroboshi18

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I purchased a 750w Silencer PC Power and Cooling from Newegg. It was DOA. Sent it back for replacement. I reinstalled my PSU to my computer and now my monitor gives me a No Signal message and then nothing. I have my rig in my sig. It's a 520w OCZ Powerstream. It worked for a little bit, but now I think something might be wrong and I'm not sure of what to start with or to troubleshoot first. Any help would be most appreciated!
 

mpilchfamily

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Chances are the PSU is dead. You can double check all the connections and make sure the power cords are secure. The PCI-e power may not be plugged in good enough. Other then that the best way to tell if its a PSU problem is to try a different PSU in the system.
 

AtaruMoroboshi18

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I also forgot to mention, all the fans and such work on the computer, such as the CPU and GPU fans. Just no Monitor signal.
 

AtaruMoroboshi18

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Originally posted by: mpilchfamily
Chances are the PSU is dead. You can double check all the connections and make sure the power cords are secure. The PCI-e power may not be plugged in good enough. Other then that the best way to tell if its a PSU problem is to try a different PSU in the system.

So the PSU is dead? I guess I'll need to wait till my new PCP&C PSU to come, since I don't have any other PSUs lying around...
 

krnmastersgt

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I wouldn't say its dead, that's a rather hasty conclusion, and costly if you keep thinking you're receiving broken CPUs. Try re-seating your video card and secure all the power connections again for starters. From the sounds of it, your video card is more likely giving you problems than your PSU is.
From the description of the problem you've given, I would definitely say something isn't completely secure/seated properly. Re-check all the power connections, make sure your 6 pin PCI-E connector is plugged into your video card, re-seat the video card and re-secure the dvi or vga cable. If after all of that, you still get nothing, post again. It's gonna be a more complicated issue if that doesn't work.
 

AtaruMoroboshi18

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Originally posted by: krnmastersgt
I wouldn't say its dead, that's a rather hasty conclusion, and costly if you keep thinking you're receiving broken CPUs. Try re-seating your video card and secure all the power connections again for starters. From the sounds of it, your video card is more likely giving you problems than your PSU is.
From the description of the problem you've given, I would definitely say something isn't completely secure/seated properly. Re-check all the power connections, make sure your 6 pin PCI-E connector is plugged into your video card, re-seat the video card and re-secure the dvi or vga cable. If after all of that, you still get nothing, post again. It's gonna be a more complicated issue if that doesn't work.

Checked the connections, everything seems to be hooked up just fine. Also tried reconnecting my video card and even using another one of the PCIe power cables on my PSU with it and still nothing comes up. I can hear the HDDs, the fans are working, but still No Signal. It might possibly be a problem with the 8800 GT?
 

krnmastersgt

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Well if your whole system is powering up just fine, wouldn't seem like a dead PSU now would it? Maybe a static discharged screwed with your GT? Got another computer/video card you can test it out with? If you were using it just fine, swapped it for a doa psu, then swapped back I see no reason why the PSU would be the problem. Something during the process of switching the PSUs affected your video card. That's my conclusion at least, testing it would be a great help.
 

krnmastersgt

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Have you tried running the system on the bare minimum? A few problems could cause the No Signal issue to arise so it might help/re-assure you to test all the components, tried running the system with just 1 stick of ram? Or swapping the video card out? The more components you can replace to test the more likely we are to find the culprit.
 

AtaruMoroboshi18

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Originally posted by: krnmastersgt
Have you tried running the system on the bare minimum? A few problems could cause the No Signal issue to arise so it might help/re-assure you to test all the components, tried running the system with just 1 stick of ram? Or swapping the video card out? The more components you can replace to test the more likely we are to find the culprit.

I have no way to test replacing the Video Card short of out right buying one, which I intend to do very soon. I tried with a single stick of RAM on both slots and nothing. The No Signal seems to be coming from purely the Video Card and without any way of seeing the monitor or it posting, it really seems to be the Video card. Is there any $200 video card you could recommend? I was in the market for a new one anyway.
 

krnmastersgt

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Well it'd be a shame if for some small but unknown reason you throw out a perfectly good video card. Have you tried booting with the video card or memory completely taken out? If there's no beeps at all then it'll have become problem with the board or mayhaps cpu. As for the video card upgrade you were looking for, what resolution do you plan on playing at?

My advice would be, wait for the new psu to come in and try and boot it. It's still possible it's a psu problem since it was just as unlikely the video card stopped working for no reason. Sure you didn't change or move anything around when you swapped the PSUs before?
 

AtaruMoroboshi18

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Originally posted by: krnmastersgt
Well it'd be a shame if for some small but unknown reason you throw out a perfectly good video card. Have you tried booting with the video card or memory completely taken out? If there's no beeps at all then it'll have become problem with the board or mayhaps cpu. As for the video card upgrade you were looking for, what resolution do you plan on playing at?

My advice would be, wait for the new psu to come in and try and boot it. It's still possible it's a psu problem since it was just as unlikely the video card stopped working for no reason. Sure you didn't change or move anything around when you swapped the PSUs before?

With how many f***ing cords come on PSUs these days, it's hard not to change things around what with air flow and such.

The only thing I can think about is that I was having trouble with my floppy drive so I took out it's cable and disabled it in the BIOS.
 

krnmastersgt

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Originally posted by: AtaruMoroboshi18
Originally posted by: krnmastersgt
Well it'd be a shame if for some small but unknown reason you throw out a perfectly good video card. Have you tried booting with the video card or memory completely taken out? If there's no beeps at all then it'll have become problem with the board or mayhaps cpu. As for the video card upgrade you were looking for, what resolution do you plan on playing at?

My advice would be, wait for the new psu to come in and try and boot it. It's still possible it's a psu problem since it was just as unlikely the video card stopped working for no reason. Sure you didn't change or move anything around when you swapped the PSUs before?

With how many f***ing cords come on PSUs these days, it's hard not to change things around what with air flow and such.

The only thing I can think about is that I was having trouble with my floppy drive so I took out it's cable and disabled it in the BIOS.

That, my friend, is why modular was invented :D
Well hopefully the new PSU will correct the problem, have you tried making the system beep?
 

krnmastersgt

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Well the fact that your system beeps is a good sign, was that with the ram out or the video card? The system should make a different sound/combination of sounds depending on what's missing.
 

krnmastersgt

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Ah, then it does seem to be a video card related issue. If the new PSU doesn't fix it, not sure what you can do aside buy a replacement to test with.
 

AtaruMoroboshi18

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Originally posted by: krnmastersgt
Ah, then it does seem to be a video card related issue. If the new PSU doesn't fix it, not sure what you can do aside buy a replacement to test with.

Yeah, so since I'm going to get a Video Card, any recommendations on one that's $200 and can play games at 1440x900?

Edit: Which would you recommend? A 4870 Radeon HD or a 260 GTX?
 

krnmastersgt

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Either one would be good, but at the same time both are hideously overpowered for your gaming resolution, a 4850 or 9800 GTX+ or something would be better value-wise.
But if you're still looking at the cards, I'd go with a GTX260 Core216, it has a slight edge over the 4870 1gb in the majority of games, and since it's nVidia's latest gen chip, it gets some damn nice drivers/updates. What do you plan on doing with the GT? If you plan on throwing it out maybe I could pay for shipping? I like fiddling with the broken cards I own and see if sometimes I can fix them :p
 

AtaruMoroboshi18

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Originally posted by: krnmastersgt
Either one would be good, but at the same time both are hideously overpowered for your gaming resolution, a 4850 or 9800 GTX+ or something would be better value-wise.
But if you're still looking at the cards, I'd go with a GTX260 Core216, it has a slight edge over the 4870 1gb in the majority of games, and since it's nVidia's latest gen chip, it gets some damn nice drivers/updates. What do you plan on doing with the GT? If you plan on throwing it out maybe I could pay for shipping? I like fiddling with the broken cards I own and see if sometimes I can fix them :p

You know, that might not be such a bad idea, if I get the GFX Card and it works on my system, then we could probably set something up.

Edit: Are there any benchmarks for GFX cards at 1440x900?

Edit 2: And it really sucks, since I fund new parts by selling my old parts...maybe by selling a few of my miscellaneous computer parts would I break even...
 

krnmastersgt

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Well you could try selling the GT on ebay or something, people buy broken things, fix them, then resell them for money. I'm not sure how someone would do it with a GT though, I've been fiddling with my broken agp/pci cards and can't get them to work :p (cept 1 which was just clogged/broken fan). Problem with dead cards, it's usually an electrical/chip failure, so fixing it becomes a bit complicated.

The reason people don't bench at the res you want, is because the cards you're looking at are so damn powerful, it'd be an instant 60+fps on every game out on the market. Also, cards give different performances at low res and high res, a card could outperform all others at 1920x1200 but be dead last of it's tier at the res you want, needless to say it'll still be damn powerful, just not an accurate comparison. Plus, these cards were meant for high resolution gaming, so anything of this generation would max out every game for you.

Add: Anyways I was looking at the specs for your rig, assuming they're up to date, you seem to be rather CPU bottlenecked, why spend the money for a GTX260 when you could upgrade the CPU+mobo and get a Geforce 9 Series card for a nice boost in performance overall.
 

AtaruMoroboshi18

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Originally posted by: krnmastersgt
Well you could try selling the GT on ebay or something, people buy broken things, fix them, then resell them for money. I'm not sure how someone would do it with a GT though, I've been fiddling with my broken agp/pci cards and can't get them to work :p (cept 1 which was just clogged/broken fan). Problem with dead cards, it's usually an electrical/chip failure, so fixing it becomes a bit complicated.

The reason people don't bench at the res you want, is because the cards you're looking at are so damn powerful, it'd be an instant 60+fps on every game out on the market. Also, cards give different performances at low res and high res, a card could outperform all others at 1920x1200 but be dead last of it's tier at the res you want, needless to say it'll still be damn powerful, just not an accurate comparison. Plus, these cards were meant for high resolution gaming, so anything of this generation would max out every game for you.

Add: Anyways I was looking at the specs for your rig, assuming they're up to date, you seem to be rather CPU bottlenecked, why spend the money for a GTX260 when you could upgrade the CPU+mobo and get a Geforce 9 Series card for a nice boost in performance overall.

Reason is, I'm going to be doing other upgrades as well. Mobo's fine, not going to get into SLI for the sheer costs associated with it and the fact that performance gains are generally poor compared to just a singular good card. A CPU upgrade is definitely on the horizon, but I'm kind of strapped for cash at the moment and since my GFX card is dead, might as well replace it with a good one.
 

krnmastersgt

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Ah I see, we're just assuming it's the video card for now, when your new PSU comes in, then we'll probably know for certain.