Reid to keep Congress in session so Bush can't make recess appointments.

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Both sides are playing games with the nominees and being unprincipled in the process. Let's stop pretending this is any one side's fault.

I don't pretend. I'm perfectly aware that both sides play political games to achieve their political goals, and I think that's perfectly fine.

What I don't think is fine is to criticize the other side for doing what you approve of on your own side.

Well that's odd because all you've done is criticize the Republicans.

Nonsense, fool. I've consistently pointed out that both sides play the same games:

My first post in this thread:

The Senate is bending the rules to prevent Bush from bending the rules.

My second post in this thread (directed at Pabster):

And of course you made the same objection to Senate recesses during the six years the Republicans were in control.

And my third post pointed out that Pabster was criticizing the Democrats for for failing to negotiate with the Republicans, when he did NOT criticize the Republicans (when they controlled the senate) for failing to negotiate with the Democrats.

But naturally you had no problem when the Republicans went on recess. Someone so clearly lacking in principle as you do would hardly wish to enforce principle when his own party has the power.

That is, in all three posts I didn't direct ANY criticism toward the behavior of Republicans. My only criticisms have been of Pabster's hypocrisy.

Now, maybe you'll learn to read and COMPREHEND next time before you make false statements.

Republicans, Republicans, Republicans. Where TF did you say anything about the Democrats?

That's right, you didn't. I don't need to comprehend shit, you need to stop trying to pass off your crap as if you were pointing at both sides. It's obvious that you were NOT, fool.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Both sides are playing games with the nominees and being unprincipled in the process. Let's stop pretending this is any one side's fault.

I don't pretend. I'm perfectly aware that both sides play political games to achieve their political goals, and I think that's perfectly fine.

What I don't think is fine is to criticize the other side for doing what you approve of on your own side.

Well that's odd because all you've done is criticize the Republicans.

Nonsense, fool. I've consistently pointed out that both sides play the same games:

My first post in this thread:

The Senate is bending the rules to prevent Bush from bending the rules.

My second post in this thread (directed at Pabster):

And of course you made the same objection to Senate recesses during the six years the Republicans were in control.

And my third post pointed out that Pabster was criticizing the Democrats for for failing to negotiate with the Republicans, when he did NOT criticize the Republicans (when they controlled the senate) for failing to negotiate with the Democrats.

But naturally you had no problem when the Republicans went on recess. Someone so clearly lacking in principle as you do would hardly wish to enforce principle when his own party has the power.

That is, in all three posts I didn't direct ANY criticism toward the behavior of Republicans. My only criticisms have been of Pabster's hypocrisy.

Now, maybe you'll learn to read and COMPREHEND next time before you make false statements.

Republicans, Republicans, Republicans. Where TF did you say anything about the Democrats?

That's right, you didn't. I don't need to comprehend shit, you need to stop trying to pass off your crap as if you were pointing at both sides. It's obvious that you were NOT, fool.

Here's you first lesson in English comprehension:

When a person asks, "How come YOU don't also criticize the Republicans?" That is a criticism of the "you," not "Republicans" and it's not a vindication of "non-Republicans."

Naturally, you don't get it. But then you don't seem to get anything. Maybe you're really as obtuse as your posts make you sound. Or maybe you're just really, really dishonest. Maybe both.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Both sides are playing games with the nominees and being unprincipled in the process. Let's stop pretending this is any one side's fault.

I don't pretend. I'm perfectly aware that both sides play political games to achieve their political goals, and I think that's perfectly fine.

What I don't think is fine is to criticize the other side for doing what you approve of on your own side.

Well that's odd because all you've done is criticize the Republicans.

Nonsense, fool. I've consistently pointed out that both sides play the same games:

My first post in this thread:

The Senate is bending the rules to prevent Bush from bending the rules.

My second post in this thread (directed at Pabster):

And of course you made the same objection to Senate recesses during the six years the Republicans were in control.

And my third post pointed out that Pabster was criticizing the Democrats for for failing to negotiate with the Republicans, when he did NOT criticize the Republicans (when they controlled the senate) for failing to negotiate with the Democrats.

But naturally you had no problem when the Republicans went on recess. Someone so clearly lacking in principle as you do would hardly wish to enforce principle when his own party has the power.

That is, in all three posts I didn't direct ANY criticism toward the behavior of Republicans. My only criticisms have been of Pabster's hypocrisy.

Now, maybe you'll learn to read and COMPREHEND next time before you make false statements.

Republicans, Republicans, Republicans. Where TF did you say anything about the Democrats?

That's right, you didn't. I don't need to comprehend shit, you need to stop trying to pass off your crap as if you were pointing at both sides. It's obvious that you were NOT, fool.

Here's you first lesson in English comprehension:

When a person asks, "How come YOU don't also criticize the Republicans?" That is a criticism of the "you," not "Republicans" and it's not a vindication of "non-Republicans."

Naturally, you don't get it. But then you don't seem to get anything. Maybe you're really as obtuse as your posts make you sound. Or maybe you're just really, really dishonest. Maybe both.

Stop with the dipshit pretenses.

"Bush bending the rules."

"Senate recesses during the six years the Republicans were in control"

"But naturally you had no problem when the Republicans went on recess"

I don't give a shit if you were responding to Pabster. You turned around and went off on a partisan hack rant in the process and claiming 'lack of comprehension," "dishonest," and "obtuse" doesn't deflect the fact that you did. In fact, it would appear that you're the dishonest one here since the content of your posts are plainly evident. Either that or you're just a plain ol' weasel.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: chucky2

I'm not sure what job you have, but in IT in the company we work for, we all spend plenty of our personal time in fact either at work, or, Working From Home (i.e. VPN'ing). For absolute certain, if I'm actually going into work, I'm not going to sit there and surf the Internet - I'm going to get work done.

The fact that this Congress has accomplished so very little, tells me that they shouldn't be taking any time off - which is the same gauntlet they threw down to the Iraqi's.

We have huge issues on our plate as a country, why the Congress is taking any time off is beyond me. These F'ers should all be locked in until they deliver on actual legislation that they know won't automatically be veto'd, so as we can at least start some type of progress on all these issues.

It's completely and utterly inexcusable the results Congress has been delivering for decades now (this is just perhaps the worst one in recent memory), and if we don't start calling these F'ers on it, absolutely nothing is going to change.

Chuck

First of all the last Congress is by most reasonable measures FAR worse then this one. Rolling Stone has a great article on it if you're looking for it.

Secondly it doesn't matter what you do with your job, it has to do with the fact that Congress wouldn't be in session under any normal schedule and for you to complain that they have added extra days in session that don't involve legislating is baffling. I'm glad you're going to get work done at work. They are accomplishing something there too, reigning in an executive branch gone berzerk.

You think that most of the work Congress does takes place on the floor of the Senate? If so you have a significant lack of understanding of how Congress works. (to compare the issues facing our country to those facing Iraq is laughable as well) I don't care what you think you do in a day at work... it's really not relevant.

Third, why should they craft legislation around what the President wants? Why don't they craft it around what they want... you know as an equal branch of government and all. It's very nice of you to say that they should "deliver" on "progress" on these issues too. That's a good plan.

I think you're just angry in general and looking for something to lash out at them on. There are plenty of reasons to do so, some of which you touched on. Adding days to the legislative calender really isn't your best bet for doing it though... just so you know.

 

[Lemon law]

Blocking bad GWB appointees is extra congressional work and a noble work at that.

And with GWB, we are talking the vacation President. Who now has one of his methods of
abusing power taken away.

At last the congress is standing up to GWB&co., and in MHO, its great for the Country and for the world.

 

[colonel]

Do I remember John R. Bolton ?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Blocking bad GWB appointees is extra congressional work and a noble work at that.

And with GWB, we are talking the vacation President. Who now has one of his methods of
abusing power taken away.

At last the congress is standing up to GWB&co., and in MHO, its great for the Country and for the world.

and shuts up the resident Republicans that constantly moaned the Democrat Congress was doing nothing.

 

[blackangst1]

You know whats fun to do? Taking a peek at threads you havent looked at before, but start on the last page. It's always the same

Oh yeah? Well you said blah blah blah

I criticize both sides!

No, what I said was,


hahahahaha If one didnt read the title you'd never know what it was about. It's like fucking preschool in here lol

 

[Jhhnn]

From chucky2-

Reid is going to keep the Senate in session, and instead of actually accomplishing something while being in session, F'ing waste time with nonimportant blathering?

They are doing something important- stopping Bush from making recess appointments...

Very straightforward, and entirely appropriate. Even the imperial presidency has limits, provided congress is willing to set them.

Think of it as an effort to restore honor and dignity to the Whitehouse, whether the Whitehouse wants it or not...

 

[schmedy]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy
I think this action is entirely appropriate and nescesarry. The president has shown a willingnes to use recess appointments to put incompetent idiots in critical positions (Myers, Bolton, Brown etc). He's now a lame duck president, measures need to be taken to make sure he doesn't do anything stupid for the remainder of his term.

<---- conservative.

Yea or he does something like pardon 140+ people on his last day.....we need major reform, politicians on both sides of the fence are power hungry whores who only care about grabbing more power.

Pardons anyone?

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: chucky2
So let me get this straight:

Reid is going to keep the Senate in session, and instead of actually accomplishing something while being in session, F'ing waste time with nonimportant blathering?

I think we need to have each and every House and Senate member write the word and definition of "efficiency" 1000 times on their first appt., and then 100 times each week as an ongoing reminder that no of us with real jobs that have real dliverables could possibly be allowed to be as inefficient as Congress.

Reid and Pelosi are jokes...the same things they criticize "Bush&Co" for they do themselves...

Keeping the Senate in session all the while not actually getting any work done - how absolutely F'ing stupid is that?

Chuck

P.S. I don't care if he's keeping the Senate in session to make sure Bush doesn't sneak an appointment in, that's certainly his prerogative. I do have a problem with them not sitting down and getting work done. If this isn't an example of a Do Nothing Congress then I don't know what is...

What's next, your insightful commentary criticizing the *content* of a filibuster speech, without recognizing the real issue of what the filibuster is trying to stop?

Gotta love the righties with their helpful posts.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: piasabird
All the congress has to do is vote on the people he nominates instead of trying to cause trouble all the time.

Huh? I'm not sure you understand how things work. Obviously voting on them or doing real commitee work isn't what is supposed to happen. I mean it's better political theater to play games with the nominee process.

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Yes, clearly piasabird doesn't understand that these people have been REJECTED by the Senate and now Bush wants them anyway.
Normally one or two incompetents in not so important jobs is tolerable, but Bush has chosen incompetents for critical jobs.

who are "these people"? And were they "REJECTED"? or just never sent out of commitee?

Just questions....

Search the web. It's free.

As usual you don`t know the answer to the question!
So why not be a big boy and say you do not know?? hmmm

 

[johnnyjohnson]

I heard about this in the news. Excellent tactic. Checks on the president were nonexistent when the republicans were in control of both houses. Bush made lots of prior appointments during recesses. No more. It's a sign of things to come. The republicans are out of here come '08 so they better get used to it.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Darwin333

Originally posted by: senseamp
Good, if Bush keeps vetoing Democrat bills that Americans want, he should expect to have his dumb@ss nominees blocked.

Wow. That is one of the things I feel is wrong with our current politics. The horse trading and political "get back" rarely net positive results for the American people.

On the other hand, I do support the Dems actions here, but for the right reasons.

Blocking Bush's idiots from ruining this country and using it leverage to get concessions out of him on things the American people overwhelmingly support that he is blocking is a net positive, IMO.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: chucky2

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: chucky2
So let me get this straight:

Reid is going to keep the Senate in session, and instead of actually accomplishing something while being in session, F'ing waste time with nonimportant blathering?

I think we need to have each and every House and Senate member write the word and definition of "efficiency" 1000 times on their first appt., and then 100 times each week as an ongoing reminder that no of us with real jobs that have real dliverables could possibly be allowed to be as inefficient as Congress.

Reid and Pelosi are jokes...the same things they criticize "Bush&Co" for they do themselves...

Keeping the Senate in session all the while not actually getting any work done - how absolutely F'ing stupid is that?

Chuck

P.S. I don't care if he's keeping the Senate in session to make sure Bush doesn't sneak an appointment in, that's certainly his prerogative. I do have a problem with them not sitting down and getting work done. If this isn't an example of a Do Nothing Congress then I don't know what is...

What's next, your insightful commentary criticizing the *content* of a filibuster speech, without recognizing the real issue of what the filibuster is trying to stop?

Gotta love the righties with their helpful posts.

Pssst, BDS Sufferer, I'm not a Rightie, or a Leftie, sorry to not be able to fuel your BDS further... :roll:

I simply demand from our government officials - especially those at the top which is the Congress and Executive - F'ing efficiency and results. It's not too much to ask for, every Corp. and successful business demands it of us worker bees of the American economy, so I don't think it's too much for me to expect our country's "Leadership" to be at the top when it comes to efficiency and (quality) output of work product.

And this in no way is efficient, or quality work.

Chuck

Dealing with personnel issues and stopping idiots and cronies from assuming responsibilities for taxpayer funded agencies is some of the most important work Congress can do.
They are interrupting their vacation for the good of the American people. :thumbsup:
Your party had several years to do things its way, it has clearly demonstrated that it cannot be trusted to run anything, much less the government. Until they show that they have changed, they will remain a minority party, indefinitely. And as a minority party, they get to have their nominees blocked. No more "Heckuva Job" Brownie getting appointed to run Fema. No more "I hates me some UN" John Bolton appointed as UN embassador.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Pabster
Perhaps, if they are so concerned with "recess appointments", they shouldn't go on recess. How about actually coming to work?

Are you telling us YOU are working over the Thanksgiving weekend and giving up getting together with your family and friends? :roll:

Looks like nothing but petty politics for Reid & Co., per usual.

Yep. They're taking the necessary steps to prevent your TRAITOR IN CHIEF from his own politics as usual of committing further TREASON over the holiday weekend.

As of 11/21/07 10:46 am EDT, 3,874 Americans have died and tens of thousands are wounded, scarred and disabled for life in the Bushwhackos' war of LIES. Too bad Congress can't stop the MURDER of anymore American troops over that period.

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