Reid Adding Amnesty Measure to Defense Bill

[nick1985]

WASHINGTON -- U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Tuesday he wants to attach an amendment to a defense policy bill that would help young people in the United States illegally become legal U.S. residents.

The Nevada Democrat said at a Capitol news conference that the legislation known as the DREAM Act is long overdue. He would not say whether he has the votes for the amendment. The act would allow young people who attend college or join the military to become legal U.S. residents.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/14/reid-add-immigration-measure-defense/




:thumbsdown:

 

[Thump553]

I thought that was already the case for military service.

 

[QuantumPion]

Democrats want illegal immigrants to join the military to get citizenship? Well I guess that policy worked out well for the Romans. Oh wait.

 

[tinker2141]

I am ok with this. I think we should have a foreign legion though. Let anyone who wants into this country fight for it. The French do so with decent success. Why send Americans to all of these dirty wars and peace keeping missions. Seems to me we have panty of fodder for the job.

I agree with the idea though. There are some great men and women in uniform. There are also some self entitled pieces of shit. The whining and bitching just gets tiresome. I wouldnt mind a motivated, dedicated young man or women who is in uniform focused on the suscess the institution will bring not only to themselves but there family. Doesnt sound like a bad idea. They will mostly be used in non-technical and non-sensitive areas.

 

[Jaskalas]

:thumbsdown:

Did you not already learn the uses of insightful commentary?

As for the subject at hand, our military should be of the highest standards and loyalties. No foreign citizen should be in our military without a good professional or diplomatic reason.

If this nation prostrates itself to attain sheer numbers, then we have surely met our own demise.

 

[rival]

I dont' see the problem.

Of course i also dont hate anything non-white or gay.

 

[spacejamz]

I dont' see the problem.

U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Tuesday he wants to attach an amendment to a defense policy bill that would help young people in the United States illegally become legal U.S. residents.

 

[rival]

U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Tuesday he wants to attach an amendment to a defense policy bill that would help young people in the United States illegally become legal U.S. residents.

oops my bad, didnt realize you could send out a memo asking them to leave and they would

they're already here, and they arent leaving. They have to give service in the military or goto school to get it

 

[dainthomas]

Did you not already learn the uses of insightful commentary?

As for the subject at hand, our military should be of the highest standards and loyalties. No foreign citizen should be in our military without a good professional or diplomatic reason.

If this nation prostrates itself to attain sheer numbers, then we have surely met our own demise.

What in God's green Earth are you blathering about? Non-citizens have been allowed in the military since forever. Probably since the US became a country. Hell, the ship I was on had a guy from the Philippines. And that was almost 20 years ago. I guess we must be prostrating ourselves to the Philippines now. Jesus.

 

[nick1985]

Of course i also dont hate anything non-white or gay.

I see a problem and I dont hate anything non-white or gay

 

[nick1985]

What in God's green Earth are you blathering about? Non-citizens have been allowed in the military since forever. Probably since the US became a country. Hell, the ship I was on had a guy from the Philippines. And that was almost 20 years ago. I guess we must be prostrating ourselves to the Philippines now. Jesus.

Do you see a difference between non-citizens in the military and illegals in the military?

 

[rudder]

Will illegals going to college to get citizenship have to pay out of state tuition? Will they be eligible for Pell grants?

 

[tinker2141]

Will illegals going to college to get citizenship have to pay out of state tuition? Will they be eligible for Pell grants?

They get all of that in Ca already. In Sate tuition, grants you name it. We pretty much kiss their ass to go to school here.

 

[dainthomas]

Do you see a difference between non-citizens in the military and illegals in the military?

Jaskalas said NO foreign citizens should be allowed in the military.

The policy of allowing illegals in the military is more aimed at those brought here as babies/toddlers by their parents, but raised and educated here. The 25 year old guy coming up here with no education and barely any English skills wouldn't make the cut whether he's illegal or not.

In fact there was a case in Oregon where a girl from Mexico was adopted by a couple, but the state never filed paperwork with the federal government. Therefore she was an illegal alien and was ready to be deported, but they found a technicality where she could stay because she'd been abused by her biological parents. So she got some kind of special visa for crime victims. Otherwise she'd be in Mexico right now.

 

[werepossum]

I have no problem with granting legal status or a path toward citizenship for military service. In my opinion if you are willing to sacrifice your freedom and time, and potentially risk your life, for the country then you have earned the right to jump line. College? Absolutely not. Attending college is to better oneself, not the nation. It should earn no special dispensation and certainly should not an amendment be in a Senate defense bill.

 

[tinker2141]

I have no problem with granting legal status or a path toward citizenship for military service. In my opinion if you are willing to sacrifice your freedom and time, and potentially risk your life, for the country then you have earned the right to jump line. College? Absolutely not. Attending college is to better oneself, not the nation. It should earn no special dispensation and certainly should not an amendment be in a Senate defense bill.

I am not sure what the two years of college was about either. The GI bill is the greatest thing ever. To bad most never use it. Its paying my brothers morgage and allowing him to attend school full time right now. I have no issue with them recieving the benifit if the earn it. Not a penny more though.

 

[woolfe9999]

I have no problem with granting legal status or a path toward citizenship for military service. In my opinion if you are willing to sacrifice your freedom and time, and potentially risk your life, for the country then you have earned the right to jump line. College? Absolutely not. Attending college is to better oneself, not the nation. It should earn no special dispensation and certainly should not an amendment be in a Senate defense bill.

I basically agree with you on both counts, but I wouldn't be opposed to the college option IF some kind of national service was required after college. I also don't think they should get any state subsidies for their education. If they attend a public university, they should be treated as out of state for tuition purposes. If they can get a private scholarship, fine.

- wolf

 

[umbrella39]

The Bush era keyboard soldiers couldn't be bothered to enlist and now they don't like the idea of illegals doing the work they cower away from. Typical.

 

[tinker2141]

I basically agree with you on both counts, but I wouldn't be opposed to the college option IF some kind of national service was required after college. I also don't think they should get any state subsidies for their education. If they attend a public university, they should be treated as out of state for tuition purposes. If they can get a private scholarship, fine.

- wolf

If they serve honorably, receive a good discharge they should be allowed to choose their state of residency. Since they have no official home of record or state residency they should be allowed to say, hey I like that school and apply for permanent residency in that state. Really though how many young men and women between the ages 18-25 are smart enough to actually go through that kind of trouble?

 

[PokerGuy]

We can clearly see who is catering to the illegal crowd as usual. Hopefully after november this can be put to a rest and the dimocrats will be neutered.

 

[tinker2141]

The Bush era keyboard soldiers couldn't be bothered to enlist and now they don't like the idea of illegals doing the work they cower away from. Typical.

I actually agree with you for once. Most in the Military want to have recruiters parked at the border. If anyone has spent any time in the military then they know that at least one out of every forty learns English in boot camp. Hell I had six in my platoon we worked with every night to learn to speak English.

 

[ElFenix]

I have no problem with granting legal status or a path toward citizenship for military service. In my opinion if you are willing to sacrifice your freedom and time, and potentially risk your life, for the country then you have earned the right to jump line. College? Absolutely not. Attending college is to better oneself, not the nation. It should earn no special dispensation and certainly should not an amendment be in a Senate defense bill.

i have a problem with people being educated here and then told they can't work here. how many of those guys in india that 'tuk er jerbs' were educated here and then told they can't stay here? or were trained by those that were educated here and told they can't stay here? doesn't make sense to build up our competitors like that.

 

[Svnla]

oops my bad, didnt realize you could send out a memo asking them to leave and they would

they're already here, and they arent leaving. They have to give service in the military or goto school to get it

They are here and they are not leaving because our politicians are pandering to them ILLEGALS for future votes.

Let be like France (gasping in disbelieve that I am endorsing France) and deport them ILLEGALS pronto.

 

[Infohawk]

LOL. Sounds like another good political move for the Democrats...

 

[Svnla]

i have a problem with people being educated here and then told they can't work here. how many of those guys in india that 'tuk er jerbs' were educated here and then told they can't stay here? or were trained by those that were educated here and told they can't stay here? doesn't make sense to build up our competitors like that.

Don't forget about well educated, highly skilled, and wealthy LEGAL immigrants have to wait for years and jump to all the hoops to get here while uneducated and no skills ILLEGALS are sneaking in and then demanding path to citizenships.

Let me ask everyone. Who would you rather have as your future citizens? Well educated and well to do/highly skilled or uneducated and no skill? We all know the jobs of the future are demanding skills and brain power.

Australia, Canada, and any developed countries require everyone that want to move to their countries pass several mean tests and must have minimum score to enter. Why shouldn't we do the same and pick the best of the best instead getting the bottom?