?Reelect Gore in 2004?

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Tominator

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Gore NEVER asked for a state wide recount!:Q
?After all the appearances, interviews and statements, Al Gore's book on Amazon is still at #825. Folks, it doesn't get any better than that. I think we have the first exit poll of the 2004 Democratic presidential primaries.?
Rush Limbaugh

Nuf said!:D
 

Tom

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Tominator,

In my post I didn't argue about the electoral college, the Supreme court decision, or the accuracy of the count anywhere.

All of those things are over and done with, no reason to tell me to get over it. I didn't agree with the Supreme Court's decision, but I do believe that it was their decision to make, not mine. So I got over it right then.

What I did question was the "rejection" of Gore by the voters, which given the official vote count isn't accurate because Gore got more votes.
 

Tominator

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What I did question was the "rejection" of Gore by the voters, which given the official vote count isn't accurate because Gore got more votes.
In a political sense there are winners and losers, nothing in between but I get your point.
 

ultimatebob

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Originally posted by: Tominator
Originally posted by: BDawg
Originally posted by: Tominator
Saying another place sucks while being from New York is rather funny. No, I tale that back. It's hilarious!;)

I'm from New York? :confused:

I'd imagine that most New Yorkers like myself would resent that.

I never remember saying that North Dakota or Montana suck. Hell, I didn't even mean to imply it! I just picked North Dakota and Montana because they have a low population, and therefore their votes have a greater influence over the outcome of the election. It's the electoral college that I have a problem with, not North Dakota or Montana.

Now, Illinois on the other hand.... :p
 

Cyberian

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Originally posted by: Tominator
With no electoral college only 5 or 6 regions in the US would dictate how the rest lived. Fewer people would vote.
Hold on - aren't the number of electors determined by the population of each state?

 

Moonbeam

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It's accidemic. The election is determined by 5 out of nine injustices. It's not who you are, it's how you can stack the court.

Tominator, it doesn't matter a big pile of dog sh!t what Gore asked for. He won Florida because he got the most legal votes. That's how you are supposed to win an election. We have a right winged ass in the White House who not only lost the election, he had not even the remotest mandate to shove homeland security, preemptive attacks, or budget deficites up everybody's asses. The country was taken by coup and you worthess guns loving NRA jerk-offs let it happen. We need our guns to prevent a takeover. AHAHAHAHAHAHA! Riiiiiiight.
 

etech

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The election was not decided by the Supreme Court. Even if they had not ruled the way they did Pres. Bush would still have been elected. Gore asked only for a recount of the heavily democratic areas of Florida. If they had been recounted then Bush still had the most votes. Try actually doing some research before whining.

 

charrison

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Originally posted by: fluxquantum
didn't gore win the popular vote? i don't know if that means anything.

It means he was the 3rd presidential candidate to lose to the electorial college when a candidate had the popular vote. That is about all it means.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: etech
The election was not decided by the Supreme Court. Even if they had not ruled the way they did Pres. Bush would still have been elected. Gore asked only for a recount of the heavily democratic areas of Florida. If they had been recounted then Bush still had the most votes. Try actually doing some research before whining.

I dont think anything would convince moonbeam.
 

Tominator

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
It's accidemic. The election is determined by 5 out of nine injustices. It's not who you are, it's how you can stack the court.

Tominator, it doesn't matter a big pile of dog sh!t what Gore asked for. He won Florida because he got the most legal votes. That's how you are supposed to win an election. We have a right winged ass in the White House who not only lost the election, he had not even the remotest mandate to shove homeland security, preemptive attacks, or budget deficites up everybody's asses. The country was taken by coup and you worthess guns loving NRA jerk-offs let it happen. We need our guns to prevent a takeover. AHAHAHAHAHAHA! Riiiiiiight.

Oh, hit a nerve? Your true self is evident....:cool:

 

Moonbeam

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I did tons of research. That's why I know the facts. (Watch etech go do a blizzard of lie links) You don't win elections by counties, you win them by state total. Blow all the smoke up your ass you want. Gore was the winner in Florida because he got the most legal votes. Bush did everything to stop the counting of votes. Stop the count. Stop the count. Naturally he didn't want the votes counted. He knew he lost. For Gore to have gotten a partial recount and won would have been just as outrageous. There is only one count that matters and it's the total count by state and then the electoral vote.

And no, Tominator, nobody hit a nerve. I'm only practicing my Republican moral-indignation whine. What happened was that you recognized it. :D
 

etech

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And the offical state tally of votes has Bush the winner of the Florida election. Not some recount by a news agency but the offical Florida tally.

No, I won't give you any links moonie, you wouldn't read them anyway and would be content to keep chanting the same old line.

edit/ moonie, where in your tons of research did you find that the Supreme Court affected the outcome of the election? You need to find better sites to use if you really did any research.
 

Tom

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The Supreme Court decided to stop the recount in Florida. By deciding which count of the votes was going to be the official count they decided the election.

No one can know if their decision had been different what the result would have been. Anyone who says otherwise is just speculating.
 

Moonbeam

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Hehehe, back to links again. I'm sure you do prefer the official lie and have nothing but contempt for the huge multi paper effort to find the truth that itself turned around and tried to lie. Not a problem. I go where the facts seem to indicate regardless of whether I like them or not. It's a commitment I have to truth. And did I mention that Gore won really, not by this count or that count, but by the actual ballots? It must be a bitter pill that we replaced one sleaze ball with another.
 

Tominator

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Typical Liberal think...Anything or anyone not agreeing with a Liberal and Liberal philosphy is a complete lie.
 

Moonbeam

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Independently and carefully recounting the entire Florida ballots is not speculation. It's scientific certainty. We do know though, that fools convinced against their will are of the same opinion still.
 

Moonbeam

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Conservatives art so stupid that they talk of typical liberals. In so doing they become typically stupid conservatives.
 

Tom

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"The Supreme Court decided to uphold the law...nothing more... "

Strictly speaking I wouldn't say they uphold the law, in the case of conflicting laws, which was the case in the Gore case, they decided which one to apply.

Of course, based on the opinions you express here, the Confederate flag issue comes to mind, I would think you were a believer in State's rights..unless the State, i.e. the Florida Supreme Court, decided to do something you don't like..


 

Moonbeam

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You have that science confused with Creation Science, Torminator. Real science isn't funny. It's serious stuff.
 

Mani

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Originally posted by: grasshopper26
Originally posted by: Desslok
Moonbeam is the resident "deep thinking liberal"

oxymoron...

I don't always agree with what he has to say, Moonbeam is probably orders of magnitude more intelligent than most of the obnoxious right-wing gasbags on this forum.
 

Moonbeam

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Dead on, DeadParrot, they completely reversed themselves and then said they were sorry.