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[Storm]

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: Storm
Man Contreras is getting killed .

Oh well, even if they lose they will still be up by 7.5 games?

The RedSox are in a tie with Oakland and the WhiteSox for Wild Card. Who has the edge in the tie-breaker?

Sox will be up in the wild card by a 1/2 game.

Well yea but given over half the season so far it really should be between those three anyways. Unless someone gets on a hot streak or a cold streak

 

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Wow, it's so quiet in this thread, I hear crickets.

Where are all the sh!t talking MFY fans now?

There is no need to talk trash. Here's why:

A) The Yankees are 8.5 games ahead of Boston at this point in time, so at least for now, they are in the driver's seat as far as making the playoffs is concerned.
B) It's 6-2 in the 3rd inning. If you remember back to Friday night, the Red Sox had a 4-1 lead in the 6th inning and the Yankees put 5 runs on the board against Schilling. So this game is far from over.

This is the problem with most Red Sox fans. Your hatred towards the Yankees manifests itself in endless amounts of premature, useless trash talking sometimes accompanied by desires to physically harm Yankees fans. On the other hand, most Yankees fans don't actually hate the Red Sox or their fans.....they just like to give Red Sox fans a solid heckling every once in a while.

-Tom

Read the first posts of this thread, that's trash talk, retard.

 

[Soccer55]

Originally posted by: brunswickite

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Yep, all three were unintentional, especially the one that hit Millar after he hit 3 foul bombs that went a total of about 4 million miles, then he gets hit square in the back. Yep, that seems unintentional to me. :roll:

i missed that hbp, but I would assume that was intentional, considering Millar is on a tear right now and Contreras gave up 6 runs.

Ummmmm.....no. If you're a pitcher that is going to intentionally hit someone, you don't hit them with an off-speed pitch (split finger in this case. You would drill them with a fastball in the leg or arm like Carlos Zambrano did against Jim Edmonds earlier in the week.

-Tom

 

[PoPPeR]

well yeah of course Yankee fans aren't as angry as Red Sox fans, they've won like 25 world series since the last time the sox won

 

[Soccer55]

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Wow, it's so quiet in this thread, I hear crickets.

Where are all the sh!t talking MFY fans now?

There is no need to talk trash. Here's why:

A) The Yankees are 8.5 games ahead of Boston at this point in time, so at least for now, they are in the driver's seat as far as making the playoffs is concerned.
B) It's 6-2 in the 3rd inning. If you remember back to Friday night, the Red Sox had a 4-1 lead in the 6th inning and the Yankees put 5 runs on the board against Schilling. So this game is far from over.

This is the problem with most Red Sox fans. Your hatred towards the Yankees manifests itself in endless amounts of premature, useless trash talking sometimes accompanied by desires to physically harm Yankees fans. On the other hand, most Yankees fans don't actually hate the Red Sox or their fans.....they just like to give Red Sox fans a solid heckling every once in a while.

-Tom

Read the first posts of this thread, that's trash talk, retard.

Or he could be making fun of whoever it was that made those ridiculous comments in last night's thread about Red Sox Nation being stronger than ever, etc.....But I'm glad you took the time to not only tell me what the OP actually meant, you also worked in some name calling :roll:

-Tom

 

[brunswickite]

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: brunswickite

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Yep, all three were unintentional, especially the one that hit Millar after he hit 3 foul bombs that went a total of about 4 million miles, then he gets hit square in the back. Yep, that seems unintentional to me. :roll:

i missed that hbp, but I would assume that was intentional, considering Millar is on a tear right now and Contreras gave up 6 runs.

Ummmmm.....no. If you're a pitcher that is going to intentionally hit someone, you don't hit them with an off-speed pitch (split finger in this case. You would drill them with a fastball in the leg or arm like Carlos Zambrano did against Jim Edmonds earlier in the week.

-Tom

I actually did not see the pitch, so I am not sure. I just said given the circumstances it could be intentional seeing that Millar is playing really well and Contre. gave up 6 runs.

 

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: brunswickite

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Yep, all three were unintentional, especially the one that hit Millar after he hit 3 foul bombs that went a total of about 4 million miles, then he gets hit square in the back. Yep, that seems unintentional to me. :roll:

i missed that hbp, but I would assume that was intentional, considering Millar is on a tear right now and Contreras gave up 6 runs.

Ummmmm.....no. If you're a pitcher that is going to intentionally hit someone, you don't hit them with an off-speed pitch (split finger in this case. You would drill them with a fastball in the leg or arm like Carlos Zambrano did against Jim Edmonds earlier in the week.

-Tom

Are you watching the game????? He was hit square in the back after 3 long foul bombs. Please, do us all a favor and throw your keyboard away.

 

[Soccer55]

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: brunswickite

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Yep, all three were unintentional, especially the one that hit Millar after he hit 3 foul bombs that went a total of about 4 million miles, then he gets hit square in the back. Yep, that seems unintentional to me. :roll:

i missed that hbp, but I would assume that was intentional, considering Millar is on a tear right now and Contreras gave up 6 runs.

Ummmmm.....no. If you're a pitcher that is going to intentionally hit someone, you don't hit them with an off-speed pitch (split finger in this case. You would drill them with a fastball in the leg or arm like Carlos Zambrano did against Jim Edmonds earlier in the week.

-Tom

Are you watching the game????? He was hit square in the back after 3 long foul bombs. Please, do us all a favor and throw your keyboard away.

Yes, I am watching the game and you are missing the point about it being an OFF-SPEED PITCH. Clearly you've never played organized baseball at any level because if you had, you would know that a pitcher does not intentionally hit someone with an off-speed pitch. You hit someone with a 90 MPH fastball to send a message, not with a 70 MPH splitter. Just ask your boy Pedro.....great pitcher, but notorious for hitting batters. Not to mention, do you think that either team (or MLB) wants to get into HBP war.....especially after what happened last night?

-Tom

 

[Indolent]

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: brunswickite

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Yep, all three were unintentional, especially the one that hit Millar after he hit 3 foul bombs that went a total of about 4 million miles, then he gets hit square in the back. Yep, that seems unintentional to me. :roll:

i missed that hbp, but I would assume that was intentional, considering Millar is on a tear right now and Contreras gave up 6 runs.

Ummmmm.....no. If you're a pitcher that is going to intentionally hit someone, you don't hit them with an off-speed pitch (split finger in this case. You would drill them with a fastball in the leg or arm like Carlos Zambrano did against Jim Edmonds earlier in the week.

-Tom

Are you watching the game????? He was hit square in the back after 3 long foul bombs. Please, do us all a favor and throw your keyboard away.

Yes, I am watching the game and you are missing the point about it being an OFF-SPEED PITCH. Clearly you've never played organized baseball at any level because if you had, you would know that a pitcher does not intentionally hit someone with an off-speed pitch. You hit someone with a 90 MPH fastball to send a message, not with a 70 MPH splitter. Just ask your boy Pedro.....great pitcher, but notorious for hitting batters. Not to mention, do you think that either team (or MLB) wants to get into HBP war.....especially after what happened last night?

-Tom

that would be the reason he made it look not so intentional by throwing an offspeed pitch. I'm just guessing though

 

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally posted by: Indolent

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: brunswickite

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Yep, all three were unintentional, especially the one that hit Millar after he hit 3 foul bombs that went a total of about 4 million miles, then he gets hit square in the back. Yep, that seems unintentional to me. :roll:

i missed that hbp, but I would assume that was intentional, considering Millar is on a tear right now and Contreras gave up 6 runs.

Ummmmm.....no. If you're a pitcher that is going to intentionally hit someone, you don't hit them with an off-speed pitch (split finger in this case. You would drill them with a fastball in the leg or arm like Carlos Zambrano did against Jim Edmonds earlier in the week.

-Tom

Are you watching the game????? He was hit square in the back after 3 long foul bombs. Please, do us all a favor and throw your keyboard away.

Yes, I am watching the game and you are missing the point about it being an OFF-SPEED PITCH. Clearly you've never played organized baseball at any level because if you had, you would know that a pitcher does not intentionally hit someone with an off-speed pitch. You hit someone with a 90 MPH fastball to send a message, not with a 70 MPH splitter. Just ask your boy Pedro.....great pitcher, but notorious for hitting batters. Not to mention, do you think that either team (or MLB) wants to get into HBP war.....especially after what happened last night?

-Tom

that would be the reason he made it look not so intentional by throwing an offspeed pitch. I'm just guessing though

Yankee fans aren't smart enough to realize this though, because their players are never to blame for playing dirty.

 

[Indolent]

Is it my tv or did John Kerry's face look really orange there?

 

[Soccer55]

Originally posted by: Indolent

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: brunswickite

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Yep, all three were unintentional, especially the one that hit Millar after he hit 3 foul bombs that went a total of about 4 million miles, then he gets hit square in the back. Yep, that seems unintentional to me. :roll:

i missed that hbp, but I would assume that was intentional, considering Millar is on a tear right now and Contreras gave up 6 runs.

Ummmmm.....no. If you're a pitcher that is going to intentionally hit someone, you don't hit them with an off-speed pitch (split finger in this case. You would drill them with a fastball in the leg or arm like Carlos Zambrano did against Jim Edmonds earlier in the week.

-Tom

Are you watching the game????? He was hit square in the back after 3 long foul bombs. Please, do us all a favor and throw your keyboard away.

Yes, I am watching the game and you are missing the point about it being an OFF-SPEED PITCH. Clearly you've never played organized baseball at any level because if you had, you would know that a pitcher does not intentionally hit someone with an off-speed pitch. You hit someone with a 90 MPH fastball to send a message, not with a 70 MPH splitter. Just ask your boy Pedro.....great pitcher, but notorious for hitting batters. Not to mention, do you think that either team (or MLB) wants to get into HBP war.....especially after what happened last night?

-Tom

that would be the reason he made it look not so intentional by throwing an offspeed pitch. I'm just guessing though

What about Lowe hitting Posada in the 1st? What about Conteras hitting Mirabelli on the elbow with an off-speed pitch before Millar got hit? Has he been struggling with his control tonight (as the 6 ER and 2 off-speed HBP would suggest) or were both HBP intentional? Let's be serious here.....Contreras is clearly struggling tonight, so what good would it do to hit someone intentionally and put them on base only for them to possibly score?

-Tom

 

[Soccer55]

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: Indolent

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: brunswickite

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Yep, all three were unintentional, especially the one that hit Millar after he hit 3 foul bombs that went a total of about 4 million miles, then he gets hit square in the back. Yep, that seems unintentional to me. :roll:

i missed that hbp, but I would assume that was intentional, considering Millar is on a tear right now and Contreras gave up 6 runs.

Ummmmm.....no. If you're a pitcher that is going to intentionally hit someone, you don't hit them with an off-speed pitch (split finger in this case. You would drill them with a fastball in the leg or arm like Carlos Zambrano did against Jim Edmonds earlier in the week.

-Tom

Are you watching the game????? He was hit square in the back after 3 long foul bombs. Please, do us all a favor and throw your keyboard away.

Yes, I am watching the game and you are missing the point about it being an OFF-SPEED PITCH. Clearly you've never played organized baseball at any level because if you had, you would know that a pitcher does not intentionally hit someone with an off-speed pitch. You hit someone with a 90 MPH fastball to send a message, not with a 70 MPH splitter. Just ask your boy Pedro.....great pitcher, but notorious for hitting batters. Not to mention, do you think that either team (or MLB) wants to get into HBP war.....especially after what happened last night?

-Tom

that would be the reason he made it look not so intentional by throwing an offspeed pitch. I'm just guessing though

Yankee fans aren't smart enough to realize this though, because their players are never to blame for playing dirty.

Your overzealous support of the Boston Red Sox has clearly eroded your thought processes and made you incapable of rational thought. Go watch some organized baseball and see how many times pitchers will intentionally hit someone with a change-up and get back to me with your results.

-Tom

 

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: Indolent

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: brunswickite

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Yep, all three were unintentional, especially the one that hit Millar after he hit 3 foul bombs that went a total of about 4 million miles, then he gets hit square in the back. Yep, that seems unintentional to me. :roll:

i missed that hbp, but I would assume that was intentional, considering Millar is on a tear right now and Contreras gave up 6 runs.

Ummmmm.....no. If you're a pitcher that is going to intentionally hit someone, you don't hit them with an off-speed pitch (split finger in this case. You would drill them with a fastball in the leg or arm like Carlos Zambrano did against Jim Edmonds earlier in the week.

-Tom

Are you watching the game????? He was hit square in the back after 3 long foul bombs. Please, do us all a favor and throw your keyboard away.

Yes, I am watching the game and you are missing the point about it being an OFF-SPEED PITCH. Clearly you've never played organized baseball at any level because if you had, you would know that a pitcher does not intentionally hit someone with an off-speed pitch. You hit someone with a 90 MPH fastball to send a message, not with a 70 MPH splitter. Just ask your boy Pedro.....great pitcher, but notorious for hitting batters. Not to mention, do you think that either team (or MLB) wants to get into HBP war.....especially after what happened last night?

-Tom

that would be the reason he made it look not so intentional by throwing an offspeed pitch. I'm just guessing though

What about Lowe hitting Posada in the 1st? What about Conteras hitting Mirabelli on the elbow with an off-speed pitch before Millar got hit? Has he been struggling with his control tonight (as the 6 ER and 2 off-speed HBP would suggest) or were both HBP intentional? Let's be serious here.....Contreras is clearly struggling tonight, so what good would it do to hit someone intentionally and put them on base only for them to possibly score?

-Tom

Thank you very much. You just disproved every Yankee fan that said that A-Fraud getting hit by the pitch yesterday was intentional, especially since the Sox were down 3-0 at the time.

 

[Led Zeppelin]

Millar hits ANOTHER BOMB off Contreras, this one stays fair and hits the coke bottles!!! 7-2 Sox.

 

[Juno]

Go and beat Yankees. I'm Mets fan.

 

[Soccer55]

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: Indolent

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: brunswickite

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Yep, all three were unintentional, especially the one that hit Millar after he hit 3 foul bombs that went a total of about 4 million miles, then he gets hit square in the back. Yep, that seems unintentional to me. :roll:

i missed that hbp, but I would assume that was intentional, considering Millar is on a tear right now and Contreras gave up 6 runs.

Ummmmm.....no. If you're a pitcher that is going to intentionally hit someone, you don't hit them with an off-speed pitch (split finger in this case. You would drill them with a fastball in the leg or arm like Carlos Zambrano did against Jim Edmonds earlier in the week.

-Tom

Are you watching the game????? He was hit square in the back after 3 long foul bombs. Please, do us all a favor and throw your keyboard away.

Yes, I am watching the game and you are missing the point about it being an OFF-SPEED PITCH. Clearly you've never played organized baseball at any level because if you had, you would know that a pitcher does not intentionally hit someone with an off-speed pitch. You hit someone with a 90 MPH fastball to send a message, not with a 70 MPH splitter. Just ask your boy Pedro.....great pitcher, but notorious for hitting batters. Not to mention, do you think that either team (or MLB) wants to get into HBP war.....especially after what happened last night?

-Tom

that would be the reason he made it look not so intentional by throwing an offspeed pitch. I'm just guessing though

What about Lowe hitting Posada in the 1st? What about Conteras hitting Mirabelli on the elbow with an off-speed pitch before Millar got hit? Has he been struggling with his control tonight (as the 6 ER and 2 off-speed HBP would suggest) or were both HBP intentional? Let's be serious here.....Contreras is clearly struggling tonight, so what good would it do to hit someone intentionally and put them on base only for them to possibly score?

-Tom

Thank you very much. You just disproved every Yankee fan that said that A-Fraud getting hit by the pitch yesterday was intentional, especially since the Sox were down 3-0 at the time.

I didn't see the A-Rod HBP, so I don't know, but it's nice that you took only PART of the sentence to make your point. Now if you read the WHOLE sentence and use the contextual clues it provides, you will see that it mentions Contreras' struggles tonight and as a result, it wouldn't be wise to intentionally hit someone because they'd have a pretty good chance of scoring. When you're not struggling, you can usually get away with an intentional HBP. Again, I didn't see the A-Rod at bat, so I don't know if it was intentional or not, but at least use the full sentence and correct context when making your point(s).

-Tom

 

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: Indolent

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: brunswickite

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Yep, all three were unintentional, especially the one that hit Millar after he hit 3 foul bombs that went a total of about 4 million miles, then he gets hit square in the back. Yep, that seems unintentional to me. :roll:

i missed that hbp, but I would assume that was intentional, considering Millar is on a tear right now and Contreras gave up 6 runs.

Ummmmm.....no. If you're a pitcher that is going to intentionally hit someone, you don't hit them with an off-speed pitch (split finger in this case. You would drill them with a fastball in the leg or arm like Carlos Zambrano did against Jim Edmonds earlier in the week.

-Tom

Are you watching the game????? He was hit square in the back after 3 long foul bombs. Please, do us all a favor and throw your keyboard away.

Yes, I am watching the game and you are missing the point about it being an OFF-SPEED PITCH. Clearly you've never played organized baseball at any level because if you had, you would know that a pitcher does not intentionally hit someone with an off-speed pitch. You hit someone with a 90 MPH fastball to send a message, not with a 70 MPH splitter. Just ask your boy Pedro.....great pitcher, but notorious for hitting batters. Not to mention, do you think that either team (or MLB) wants to get into HBP war.....especially after what happened last night?

-Tom

that would be the reason he made it look not so intentional by throwing an offspeed pitch. I'm just guessing though

What about Lowe hitting Posada in the 1st? What about Conteras hitting Mirabelli on the elbow with an off-speed pitch before Millar got hit? Has he been struggling with his control tonight (as the 6 ER and 2 off-speed HBP would suggest) or were both HBP intentional? Let's be serious here.....Contreras is clearly struggling tonight, so what good would it do to hit someone intentionally and put them on base only for them to possibly score?

-Tom

Thank you very much. You just disproved every Yankee fan that said that A-Fraud getting hit by the pitch yesterday was intentional, especially since the Sox were down 3-0 at the time.

I didn't see the A-Rod HBP, so I don't know, but it's nice that you took only PART of the sentence to make your point. Now if you read the WHOLE sentence and use the contextual clues it provides, you will see that it mentions Contreras' struggles tonight and as a result, it wouldn't be wise to intentionally hit someone because they'd have a pretty good chance of scoring. When you're not struggling, you can usually get away with an intentional HBP. Again, I didn't see the A-Rod at bat, so I don't know if it was intentional or not, but at least use the full sentence and correct context when making your point(s).

-Tom

What the hell difference does it make, your words are your words. Ok, let me make you happy. Arroyo was clearly struggling yesterday, giving up three runs in 2 1/3 innings, What good would it do to hit someone intentionally and put them on base only for them to possibly score?

 

[RedPickle]

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: Indolent

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: brunswickite

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Yep, all three were unintentional, especially the one that hit Millar after he hit 3 foul bombs that went a total of about 4 million miles, then he gets hit square in the back. Yep, that seems unintentional to me. :roll:

i missed that hbp, but I would assume that was intentional, considering Millar is on a tear right now and Contreras gave up 6 runs.

Ummmmm.....no. If you're a pitcher that is going to intentionally hit someone, you don't hit them with an off-speed pitch (split finger in this case. You would drill them with a fastball in the leg or arm like Carlos Zambrano did against Jim Edmonds earlier in the week.

-Tom

Are you watching the game????? He was hit square in the back after 3 long foul bombs. Please, do us all a favor and throw your keyboard away.

Yes, I am watching the game and you are missing the point about it being an OFF-SPEED PITCH. Clearly you've never played organized baseball at any level because if you had, you would know that a pitcher does not intentionally hit someone with an off-speed pitch. You hit someone with a 90 MPH fastball to send a message, not with a 70 MPH splitter. Just ask your boy Pedro.....great pitcher, but notorious for hitting batters. Not to mention, do you think that either team (or MLB) wants to get into HBP war.....especially after what happened last night?

-Tom

that would be the reason he made it look not so intentional by throwing an offspeed pitch. I'm just guessing though

What about Lowe hitting Posada in the 1st? What about Conteras hitting Mirabelli on the elbow with an off-speed pitch before Millar got hit? Has he been struggling with his control tonight (as the 6 ER and 2 off-speed HBP would suggest) or were both HBP intentional? Let's be serious here.....Contreras is clearly struggling tonight, so what good would it do to hit someone intentionally and put them on base only for them to possibly score?

-Tom

Thank you very much. You just disproved every Yankee fan that said that A-Fraud getting hit by the pitch yesterday was intentional, especially since the Sox were down 3-0 at the time.

I didn't see the A-Rod HBP, so I don't know, but it's nice that you took only PART of the sentence to make your point. Now if you read the WHOLE sentence and use the contextual clues it provides, you will see that it mentions Contreras' struggles tonight and as a result, it wouldn't be wise to intentionally hit someone because they'd have a pretty good chance of scoring. When you're not struggling, you can usually get away with an intentional HBP. Again, I didn't see the A-Rod at bat, so I don't know if it was intentional or not, but at least use the full sentence and correct context when making your point(s).

-Tom

What the hell difference does it make, your words are your words. Ok, let me make you happy. Arroyo was clearly struggling yesterday, giving up three runs in 2 1/3 innings, What good would it do to hit someone intentionally and put them on base only for them to possibly score?

Cause Arroyo is a Red Sox player. Thats why. All of them are dirty.

 

[Soccer55]

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: Indolent

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: brunswickite

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Yep, all three were unintentional, especially the one that hit Millar after he hit 3 foul bombs that went a total of about 4 million miles, then he gets hit square in the back. Yep, that seems unintentional to me. :roll:

i missed that hbp, but I would assume that was intentional, considering Millar is on a tear right now and Contreras gave up 6 runs.

Ummmmm.....no. If you're a pitcher that is going to intentionally hit someone, you don't hit them with an off-speed pitch (split finger in this case. You would drill them with a fastball in the leg or arm like Carlos Zambrano did against Jim Edmonds earlier in the week.

-Tom

Are you watching the game????? He was hit square in the back after 3 long foul bombs. Please, do us all a favor and throw your keyboard away.

Yes, I am watching the game and you are missing the point about it being an OFF-SPEED PITCH. Clearly you've never played organized baseball at any level because if you had, you would know that a pitcher does not intentionally hit someone with an off-speed pitch. You hit someone with a 90 MPH fastball to send a message, not with a 70 MPH splitter. Just ask your boy Pedro.....great pitcher, but notorious for hitting batters. Not to mention, do you think that either team (or MLB) wants to get into HBP war.....especially after what happened last night?

-Tom

that would be the reason he made it look not so intentional by throwing an offspeed pitch. I'm just guessing though

What about Lowe hitting Posada in the 1st? What about Conteras hitting Mirabelli on the elbow with an off-speed pitch before Millar got hit? Has he been struggling with his control tonight (as the 6 ER and 2 off-speed HBP would suggest) or were both HBP intentional? Let's be serious here.....Contreras is clearly struggling tonight, so what good would it do to hit someone intentionally and put them on base only for them to possibly score?

-Tom

Thank you very much. You just disproved every Yankee fan that said that A-Fraud getting hit by the pitch yesterday was intentional, especially since the Sox were down 3-0 at the time.

I didn't see the A-Rod HBP, so I don't know, but it's nice that you took only PART of the sentence to make your point. Now if you read the WHOLE sentence and use the contextual clues it provides, you will see that it mentions Contreras' struggles tonight and as a result, it wouldn't be wise to intentionally hit someone because they'd have a pretty good chance of scoring. When you're not struggling, you can usually get away with an intentional HBP. Again, I didn't see the A-Rod at bat, so I don't know if it was intentional or not, but at least use the full sentence and correct context when making your point(s).

-Tom

What the hell difference does it make, your words are your words. Ok, let me make you happy. Arroyo was clearly struggling yesterday, giving up three runs in 2 1/3 innings, What good would it do to hit someone intentionally and put them on base only for them to possibly score?

Since I didn't see the AB, what pitch did Arroyo hit A-Rod with? Fastball? Off-speed? Breaking ball?

The difference it makes is that if Arroyo was not struggling, then it probably wouldn't matter if he hit A-Rod because he probably would have been able to get out of the inning fairly easily by making the same types of pitches he was making before the HBP. However, things don't work that way when you're struggling. You don't have the same control of your pitches as you usually do, so that extra runner could make a long inning with lots of runs an even longer one that further diminishes one's confidence. That is the difference.

-Tom

 

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: Indolent

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Originally posted by: brunswickite

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Yep, all three were unintentional, especially the one that hit Millar after he hit 3 foul bombs that went a total of about 4 million miles, then he gets hit square in the back. Yep, that seems unintentional to me. :roll:

i missed that hbp, but I would assume that was intentional, considering Millar is on a tear right now and Contreras gave up 6 runs.

Ummmmm.....no. If you're a pitcher that is going to intentionally hit someone, you don't hit them with an off-speed pitch (split finger in this case. You would drill them with a fastball in the leg or arm like Carlos Zambrano did against Jim Edmonds earlier in the week.

-Tom

Are you watching the game????? He was hit square in the back after 3 long foul bombs. Please, do us all a favor and throw your keyboard away.

Yes, I am watching the game and you are missing the point about it being an OFF-SPEED PITCH. Clearly you've never played organized baseball at any level because if you had, you would know that a pitcher does not intentionally hit someone with an off-speed pitch. You hit someone with a 90 MPH fastball to send a message, not with a 70 MPH splitter. Just ask your boy Pedro.....great pitcher, but notorious for hitting batters. Not to mention, do you think that either team (or MLB) wants to get into HBP war.....especially after what happened last night?

-Tom

that would be the reason he made it look not so intentional by throwing an offspeed pitch. I'm just guessing though

What about Lowe hitting Posada in the 1st? What about Conteras hitting Mirabelli on the elbow with an off-speed pitch before Millar got hit? Has he been struggling with his control tonight (as the 6 ER and 2 off-speed HBP would suggest) or were both HBP intentional? Let's be serious here.....Contreras is clearly struggling tonight, so what good would it do to hit someone intentionally and put them on base only for them to possibly score?

-Tom

Thank you very much. You just disproved every Yankee fan that said that A-Fraud getting hit by the pitch yesterday was intentional, especially since the Sox were down 3-0 at the time.

I didn't see the A-Rod HBP, so I don't know, but it's nice that you took only PART of the sentence to make your point. Now if you read the WHOLE sentence and use the contextual clues it provides, you will see that it mentions Contreras' struggles tonight and as a result, it wouldn't be wise to intentionally hit someone because they'd have a pretty good chance of scoring. When you're not struggling, you can usually get away with an intentional HBP. Again, I didn't see the A-Rod at bat, so I don't know if it was intentional or not, but at least use the full sentence and correct context when making your point(s).

-Tom

What the hell difference does it make, your words are your words. Ok, let me make you happy. Arroyo was clearly struggling yesterday, giving up three runs in 2 1/3 innings, What good would it do to hit someone intentionally and put them on base only for them to possibly score?

Since I didn't see the AB, what pitch did Arroyo hit A-Rod with? Fastball? Off-speed? Breaking ball?

The difference it makes is that if Arroyo was not struggling, then it probably wouldn't matter if he hit A-Rod because he probably would have been able to get out of the inning fairly easily by making the same types of pitches he was making before the HBP. However, things don't work that way when you're struggling. You don't have the same control of your pitches as you usually do, so that extra runner could make a long inning with lots of runs an even longer one that further diminishes one's confidence. That is the difference.

-Tom

lol, if you say so. End of discussion. :roll:

 

[RedPickle]

Originally posted by: Soccer55

Since I didn't see the AB, what pitch did Arroyo hit A-Rod with? Fastball? Off-speed? Breaking ball?

The difference it makes is that if Arroyo was not struggling, then it probably wouldn't matter if he hit A-Rod because he probably would have been able to get out of the inning fairly easily by making the same types of pitches he was making before the HBP. However, things don't work that way when you're struggling. You don't have the same control of your pitches as you usually do, so that extra runner could make a long inning with lots of runs an even longer one that further diminishes one's confidence. That is the difference.

-Tom

Exactly. Arroyo threw a fast ball right at ARod. He was struggling, but not with his control last night. He had no walks and 4 Strikeouts IIRC. Contreras on the other hand has given up 2 walks and 8 hits. He is struggling. So before you compare situations get all your facts in.

 

[RedPickle]

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox


lol, if you say so. End of discussion. :roll:

And another Boston Red Sox fan giving up.

 

[element]

Originally posted by: RedPickle
Cause Arroyo is a Red Sox player. Thats why. All of them are dirty.

You forgot pussies. Veritek fights Arod with his mask still on to avoid getting hurt in his babysh!t face. aww poow widdwe tekie...

 

[RedPickle]

OK OK can we all just can this animosity. Yankees are the most hated team in baseball cause they are always the favorites to win. However, Yankee fans are always the underdogs because we are always attack on every detail, every miniscule play made by a Yankee player. No other team is followed as closely as the Yankees, including by people who hate them. This is a great rivalry and I am glad there was a fight that brings more fans to the game. This is what baseball was meant to be like. sweet.