Redhat vs Mandrake

[FOBSIDE]

Everywhere I have read, I see Mandrake call itself "Redhat with improvements." What exactly do they do to Redhat? Do they just take Redhat code and slap on some extras? If so, what are these extras? I've read that a lot of times these "extras" can lead to security holes if you don't know what you're doing. Anyone know?

 

[IamDavid]

The main difference between the two is that Mandrake is much simpler to install and use. This is good for fist time Linux users but can be annoying to experienced Linux users. Some of what Mandrake does can slightly reduce the security.

 

[NucleusWDS]

I use Red Hat 7
Brilliant !!! ... I wasn't able to setup half of the stuff I did with other Linux distrib.

Now I'm running firewalls and IP masquerading with ease !!

 

[SUOrangeman]

I *think* Mandrake also optimizes for more bleeding edge toys while RedHat tries to cover most everything with one release.

-SUO, could be wrong

 

[FUBAR]

EDIT:

Nevermind

 

[FOBSIDE]

more bleeding edge toys? what do you mean?

 

[FOBSIDE]

ok no one seems to have responded but...

i was reading Slashdot and there's an article on Redhat and in the description of the article they say "the competition" and it's a link to microsoft.com and then they say "(no not that competition)" and its a link to linux-mandrake.com. do Redhat and Mandrake really compete for the same market of linux users that closely? i feel Redhat has been pretty easy to use so far and i cant imagine how much easier they could make it.

i also noticed that almost all the screen shots taken of Mandrake are using KDE. is that another thing that most Mandrake users do?

 

[jtshaw]

RedHat and Mandrake are pretty much the same thing. I hear Mandrake has a bit better GUI tools for some things but it was definitly based off RedHat. They are both linux distributions for people who don't care to really understand who the OS works...which I think is a big mistake. No offense to anyone but it is Mandrake and RedHat users that complain most when they can't get something to work because they often times have no idea how linux works and thus don't know how to do anything manually. If you really wanna learn linux get something like slackware and do everything by hand... that is my rant

 

[FOBSIDE]

i would disagree with that on some part. yes, Redhat and Mandrake do hide a lot of the things from users but you cant really say you cant get anywhere using it. with any linux distro you just have to use the command line rather than rely on gui all the time.

 

[jtshaw]

I didn't mean to say you couldn't become a linux pro using RedHat or Mandrake, but in my experience most new users that start with one of those two distro's, or Suse, and any other handholding distro take a heck of a lot longer learning the basics of linux then somebody who starts with a distro like slackware. Redhat and Mandrake are extremely bloated also... not to say you couldn't make Slackware bloated.

 

[Priit]

I think Mandrake is better for beginners. It has (had) easier installer and some extra tools to make your life easier. Somewhy I like RedHat (not 7.0) more, latest Mandrakes remind me Winblows (harder to customize than RedHat, little bit too much bells and whistles). They both are good distros, just a bit different and for different people...

 

[TomBilliodeaux]

Pritt,
I like your system: 1mb ram, no Hdd. Its refreshing to see someone down to basics.

 

[Priit]

TomBilliodeaux: Thanx, that system really exists BTW, I use it for gaming at work (no kidding, Digger and Donkey Kong are running more than smooth). Too bad there aren't RC5 client for 286, that machine has more uptime than my linux-box....

 

[Remedy]

Does anyone here have an opinion on TurboLinux workstation? How much memory should be used with linux?

 

[jtshaw]

The technical answer is 2 megs of RAM I believe. I have run Linux on systems with as low as 8MB and it ran. Runs really nice with 128MB of RAM. I have 512MB in my current linux box and it has steller proformance...but 512MB is certainly not a neccesity. RAM is cheap, 64MB or 128MB should work just fine, 256 if you have some money to blow

 

[Priit]

I found 96Mb to be the sweet spot for KDE workstation. No swap with Netscape and other usual stuff. I'll try to run MINIX with 1 Mb of RAM on my 286-box soon