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Redhat Questions (package management, dialup, gui tools)

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Infohawk

Lifer
I just installed redhat beta null. The install was infinitely easier than with Debian, but I have some questions about Redhat.

I was wondering, are there gui tools for redhat that will deal with package management? For example, let's say that I want a simple dialer so that my mom can dialup her ISP (gui), how would I go about getting that? In general, where should I go for packages? Is there an official central repository like with Debian? Another example, say I want to add my windows partition to the fray in Redhat, is there a way to do this via the gui? Or would Mandrake be better for all this?



Also, does anyone know how to put a 'show desktop' icon on the gnome panel?

Thanks
 
Kpackage is a gui you can use to manage your packages.

For easy package access I would recommend finding a local university red hat mirror with a quick connection and bookmark it. Whenever you need to install an rpm all it requires is an 'rpm -Uvh ftp://server.com/file.rpm' and the package will be installed. If you have the space and the CD set you might also move all of the supplied RPMs to their own directory for easy access.

In the long run you will find the command line to be the most efficient way for managing packages. Whether you want to install a package, remove a package, upgrade/freshen a package, query for an existing package, query which files will be provided by a given package, search for installed packages, etc., the command line will be your eventual best method for this. man rpm will tell you most of what you need to know about installing, quering and removing.
 
Keep in mind that the U in the -Uvh swich is for upgrades of currently installed packages. To install from scratch use -ivh. Other than that I agree. I am fairly new at linux too, but once you get the command line down its lightning quick withought all of the added fluff. I find myself using it even when running graphical.

On a side note I heard great things about the null release. Impressions?
 
Originally posted by: igiveup
Keep in mind that the U in the -Uvh swich is for upgrades of currently installed packages. To install from scratch use -ivh. Other than that I agree. I am fairly new at linux too, but once you get the command line down its lightning quick withought all of the added fluff. I find myself using it even when running graphical.

On a side note I heard great things about the null release. Impressions?
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Historically, RedHat's .0 releases have all been pretty bad.
 
Originally posted by: igiveup
Keep in mind that the U in the -Uvh swich is for upgrades of currently installed packages. To install from scratch use -ivh. Other than that I agree. I am fairly new at linux too, but once you get the command line down its lightning quick withought all of the added fluff. I find myself using it even when running graphical.
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Actually, the Upgrade works even if you don't have a preexisting older version installed. So -U is generally recommended over -i

The only problem with command-line rpm is that you have to manually resolve dependencies. It's no apt-get.

One way to get automatic dependency resolution is to use Freshen. If you're upgrading an existing suite of packages (i.e. KDE), just download the whole package hierarchy and let Freshen sort the mess out:

rpm -Fvh ~/downloads/kde3/apps/*.rpm ~/downloads/kde3/base/*.rpm

yadda, yadda...

Freshen will only upgrade the packages currently installed (and just silently ignored the ones that aren't). This works as long as a new uninstalled package isn't a required dependency. But it's a simple way to go if you're upgrading from KDE 3.0 to 3.0.3 for example.

The last time I checked out GUI package management in Red Hat Linux 7.3, it was still primitive compared to Mandrake Software Manager or SuSE YaST. The screenshots I saw of package management in the beta looked slick, albeit clones of Windows Add/Remove Programs.
 
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