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Redesigned 2017 Honda Ridgeline: I don't want to like it, but...

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I agree with Oilfield. There's not much you can do with that tiny bed. For sure it would be useful on occasion, but there would be a lot of time stuff wouldn't fit.

A clever compact truck would have drop and/or removeable sides to create a useful platform on the fly.
 
OILFIELDTRASH said:
It's actually a poor value for a truck. My truck is a 16 supercab f150. I paid 31k for it and it's 4 wheel drive, ecoboost 325hp 375tq, has sync, upgraded wheels and the fx4 offroad package. To boot the 2 wheel drive f150s get as good as mpg as the ridgeline and have an all aluminum body as well. Being a honda it's not going to be discounted much if at all. Tell me why I'd pay more for a smaller truck that tows less, less payload, and is a much smaller vehicle? Especially when the smaller vehicle doesn't even get better mpg? No comparison IMO. And exactly why the ridgeline won't sell. Not because of ego. The American trucks are better made and better value. End of story.
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Agree with OILFIELD.

P.S. I see you still have your new civic too.
 
Jimzz said:
No its not a great truck, its a average minivan with a open rear.


So it gets truck gas mileage with the tow capacity of a Camry. :thumbsdown:
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It probably gets pretty good mileage, near the upper end of the EPA ratings. Our Odyssey has the same engine and gets EPA+ on the highway (several 500 mile trips average 27-28 at 75-80MPH).
 
OILFIELDTRASH said:
It's actually a poor value for a truck. My truck is a 16 supercab f150. I paid 31k for it and it's 4 wheel drive, ecoboost 325hp 375tq, has sync, upgraded wheels and the fx4 offroad package. To boot the 2 wheel drive f150s get as good as mpg as the ridgeline and have an all aluminum body as well. Being a honda it's not going to be discounted much if at all. Tell me why I'd pay more for a smaller truck that tows less, less payload, and is a much smaller vehicle? Especially when the smaller vehicle doesn't even get better mpg? No comparison IMO. And exactly why the ridgeline won't sell. Not because of ego. The American trucks are better made and better value. End of story.
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That's not a bad price for a nicely equipped truck.
 
SearchMaster said:
It probably gets pretty good mileage, near the upper end of the EPA ratings. Our Odyssey has the same engine and gets EPA+ on the highway (several 500 mile trips average 27-28 at 75-80MPH).
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2016 Pilot owners are reporting 20.9MPG overall on fuelly and the new Ridgeline is a Pilot with the back chopped off. I would also wager that most of these Pilot owners have FWD models and a few probably have the 9 speed which likely ups the highway MPG a bit in the real world. Don't expect the Ridgeline to get better overall economy.

2015 and 2016 Ford F-150s are averaging ~17 MPG overall (20% less than the Pilot). Take into account this includes all engine options including the V8 (you can sort by engine if you like) and I'd imagine a higher percentage of F-150 owners tow when compared to the Pilots. I would expect a higher percentage to occasionally leave the pavement, have big tires, and have lifts which could affect the reported fuel economy numbers.
 
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MtnMan said:
Picture of the box in the back seat proves that it is still not a truck.
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the "box" in the back seat is a 55 inch tv. I wouldn't put a new 55 inch tv in the back of my truck either. I'd do the exact same thing as shown in this photo and possibly even wedge a blanket in next to it so it doesn't move around.

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Jimzz said:
No its not a great truck, its a average minivan with a open rear.


So it gets truck gas mileage with the tow capacity of a Camry. :thumbsdown:
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The latest Camrys do not have a recommended tow rating. But with a base of 3500 lbs and 5000 lbs for AWD RT models, the Ridgeline can tow.

Small trucks are not great towers anyway. Look up the 4 banger Rangers, Tacos, Colorados, and they can't do much more than a Sienna.
 
Does the current Camry have a CVT? That's another factor; seems anything with a CVT will have very low towing capacity.
 
NutBucket said:
Does the current Camry have a CVT? That's another factor; seems anything with a CVT will have very low towing capacity.
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No. It has a six speed automatic.

My guess is that they don't want people using it to tow. One possible reason is that they can upsell the bigger brothers of the Camry, such as the Highlander. Another could be practical. But another reason is perhaps the Camry doesn't have the extra cooling for the transmission and other issues like people not changing the fluids sooner to make it as good of a tow vehicle as the cars built on its platform.

With that said, it seems one can buy trailer hitches for the Camry.

The Corolla has switched to a CVT, however. Hence, it is no longer a practical light-duty tow vehicle like it was in the previous generations. The previous gens with the automatic could handle 1500 lbs and the Celica was rated for 2000 lbs.
 
Seems overpriced for a modern day el camino. Every one of it's competitors is cheaper. I'm thinking closer to $22k starting price is about right.
 
Torn Mind said:
No. It has a six speed automatic.

My guess is that they don't want people using it to tow. One possible reason is that they can upsell the bigger brothers of the Camry, such as the Highlander. Another could be practical. But another reason is perhaps the Camry doesn't have the extra cooling for the transmission and other issues like people not changing the fluids sooner to make it as good of a tow vehicle as the cars built on its platform.

With that said, it seems one can buy trailer hitches for the Camry.

The Corolla has switched to a CVT, however. Hence, it is no longer a practical light-duty tow vehicle like it was in the previous generations. The previous gens with the automatic could handle 1500 lbs and the Celica was rated for 2000 lbs.
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I'm so sick and tired of everyone blaming the CVT for everything without evidence. The Outback has a CVT and it's rated anywhere from 2700 to 3000lbs depending on trim level. Even the Crosstrek with a CVT is rated to 1500lbs. So if the Corolla no longer has a tow rating it's for other reasons, as other automakers have made CVT vehicles handle light duty towing just fine. Blaming the CVT for the removal of a tow rating is clearly not the whole story, and spreading that BS just results in more people spreading the same incorrect information.

Are you ever going to tow a boat in a truck with a CVT? No, but light duty towing is perfectly fine when the vehicle is designed for it. The Corolla just isn't designed for it, but a CVT is perfectly capable of 3000lbs in the right vehicle.
 
I still wouldn't want to do it. And for the record, I have a Forester with a CVT so I'm not against them.

My opinion is most manufacturers don't want to risk grenaded CVTs from someone that tows too much so they (artificially) set low limits.
 
Torn Mind said:
The latest Camrys do not have a recommended tow rating. But with a base of 3500 lbs and 5000 lbs for AWD RT models, the Ridgeline can tow.

Small trucks are not great towers anyway. Look up the 4 banger Rangers, Tacos, Colorados, and they can't do much more than a Sienna.
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A 4cyl base model Colorado can tow as much as this V6 "truck". The V6 gas Colorado does 7000 to 7600.

The ridgeline is supposed to be a full featured truck yet it does not stack up against even the basic mid-size competition.
 
monkeydelmagico said:
Seems overpriced for a modern day el camino. Every one of it's competitors is cheaper. I'm thinking closer to $22k starting price is about right.
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Yes, THAT is what's been bugging me about it! It's like yesterday's pickup truck crossed with an El Camino. It's basically an extended-cab El Camino, haha:

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I do like the tent bed accessory, especially with the air mattress option that inflates via the inverter:

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