Red States are growing faster than Blue States

[Steeplerot]

wow I lived in tx and you totally got that one on me Travis is Austin... Anyhow ok I feel silly the middle of TX is confusing with all the countys...
I am not surprised I have been to Austin and it has best music scene and some cool peeps downtown.
Well, go Austin glad to see the town where bush was governor and capitol of TX is moving forward then..... San Anton is pretty red, -too bad it's a damn beautiful city not as cool as NO though. (IMO I'd rather hang in Austin with the younger crowd)

And to my middle school TX history teacher who got me interested in TX when I lived there for awhile, sorry man *slaps forehead*

 

[her209]

Rise in cost of living perhaps.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
wow I lived in tx and you totally got that one on me Travis is Austin... Anyhow ok I feel silly the middle of TX is confusing with all the countys...
I am not surprised I have been to Austin and it has best music scene and some cool peeps downtown.
Well, go Austin glad to see the town where bush was governor and capitol of TX is moving forward then..... San Anton is pretty red, -too bad it's a damn beautiful city not as cool as NO though. (IMO I'd rather hang in Austin with the younger crowd)

Travis county is one of the most liberal counties in texas, and kerry did not win that by a huge margin. It was blue before, during and after bush was gov.

 

[Steeplerot]

You can pick it out on a map pretty easy w/ the color code things...
But yeah you were right though.......
*backs off slowly from the thread and goes to play bf1942 or something*

 

[burnedout]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
wow I lived in tx and you totally got that one on me Travis is Austin... Anyhow ok I feel silly the middle of TX is confusing with all the countys...
I am not surprised I have been to Austin and it has best music scene and some cool peeps downtown.
Well, go Austin glad to see the town where bush was governor and capitol of TX is moving forward then..... San Anton is pretty red, -too bad it's a damn beautiful city not as cool as NO though. (IMO I'd rather hang in Austin with the younger crowd)

Travis county is one of the most liberal counties in texas, and kerry did not win that by a huge margin. It was blue before, during and after bush was gov.

Yes indeed. The rest of Texas refers to us as "those Communists up in Austin".

Our claim to national fame? The movie, "Slacker".

 

[Steeplerot]

That would fit, my friend in Austin is almost 30 like me and still a pizza hut manager lol -but their band is cool maybe it's Austin or something..... The last time I visited I didn't dig all the H use there though.
Junkies=bad
From what I hear Houston has a even worse problem with the H though. (and rumored smog)
But who knows last time I was in TX about 4 years ago we drove through as fast as possible! still it was 24 hours of sheer hell though CA tags and being in a hearse and all:|
When we would get gas all these scary people missing teeth would group around us
and gawk. I wanted to get out before someone started talking about squealing like a pig...

 

[Zebo]

White flight.

 

[Keyur]

Moving out of the cities, there is plenty of empty land going up. A whole new town went up near Champaign, IL, with several houses. Just 5 years ago there was nothing there, and now there will probably malls and doctor's offices and about 300 Starbucks all in what used to be the middle of nowhere. I'm sure this will happen all over the US, and maybe the Red states may become more Blue because of the northerner influx.

 

[Zebo]

Illinoise is a blue state.

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Illinoise is a blue state.

/looks at sig

Ahh, yes, it all makes sense now!

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Keyur
Moving out of the cities, there is plenty of empty land going up. A whole new town went up near Champaign, IL, with several houses. Just 5 years ago there was nothing there, and now there will probably malls and doctor's offices and about 300 Starbucks all in what used to be the middle of nowhere. I'm sure this will happen all over the US, and maybe the Red states may become more Blue because of the northerner influx.

Ayup, just follow the Churches and watch the Counties turn Red. Amazing sight really.

 

[Keyur]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Illinoise is a blue state.

Only because of Chicago. Just based on land area, the state is mostly red. There are only like 2 counties that are really red.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Keyur

Originally posted by: Zebo
Illinoise is a blue state.

Only because of Chicago. Just based on land area, the state is mostly red. There are only like 2 counties that are really red.

Well then by your definition California is a red state too. Are you proposing we elect based on area instead of population? That's a unique proposition indeed. But as it is now, IL is definity a navy blue.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: glugglug
Kerry won in New Mexico. This will be more widely known after the recount.
Nevada is questionable as well, but not so certain. And the part of Nevada that is growing (Vegas) is VERY blue.

LOL, Kerry won NM? Yeah right...Bush won it, everyone knows that.

 

[imported_Condor]

Does this mean that we are becomong once again a nation of producers, not a nation of transfer payment recipients?

 

[IronMentality]

I live outside of Chicago. The suburbs are largely Republican, downstate is largely Republican. However, Chicago like the other two big cities (LA and NY) have so many people that it offsets the Republicans in the state and is Blue. However, except that to change in the coming years with the suburbs of Chicago set to explode by another 1 million.

 

[arsbanned]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: maddogchen

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: misle
Link!

The 10 fastest-growing states ? from No. 1 Nevada to No. 10 New Mexico ? are all in the West and South. President Bush won nine of them in November's election. The exception was Delaware, ranked eighth. The Census Bureau classifies Delaware as a Southern state.

Interesting population shift. Wonder what effect it will have on politics?

And how is Delaware a Southern state?

Shift of "blue" people to the "red" states perhaps? Just a thought.

Edit: Either that or the "red" state people are breeding like rabbits.

the article appears to support the shift idea

Massachusetts lost population for the first time in more than a decade.

?California remained by far the most populous state at 35.9 million. Foreign immigration fueled much of its growth in the past year. But California continues to lose more residents to other states than it gains from the rest of the USA.

?Colorado, long one of the top destinations for people leaving California, lost more people to other states than it gained for the second year in a row. But immigration and births pushed its population up 1.2%, to 4.6 million.

Yeah parts of Cali are beginning to look like Third World Countries.

That's not a new development. I was there in the 70s and saw my first cockroach there, while hanging with some charming folks who drank MD 20 20 out of bottles wrapped in paper bags. *shiver*
It could have been a slum in any part of the World, and I've seen many.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: maddogchen
Massachusetts lost population for the first time in more than a decade.

No surprise on this one, people are being priced out of this state left and right...I was just talking with a friend of mine last night about this subject as there was a news story on it. We both agreed if things continue most of MA will be much like Silcon Valley where the service providers will not be able to live anywhere near the city and people will be forced to move out unless they make obscene amounts of money.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: arsbanned

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: maddogchen

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: misle
Link!

The 10 fastest-growing states ? from No. 1 Nevada to No. 10 New Mexico ? are all in the West and South. President Bush won nine of them in November's election. The exception was Delaware, ranked eighth. The Census Bureau classifies Delaware as a Southern state.

Interesting population shift. Wonder what effect it will have on politics?

And how is Delaware a Southern state?

Shift of "blue" people to the "red" states perhaps? Just a thought.

Edit: Either that or the "red" state people are breeding like rabbits.

the article appears to support the shift idea

Massachusetts lost population for the first time in more than a decade.

?California remained by far the most populous state at 35.9 million. Foreign immigration fueled much of its growth in the past year. But California continues to lose more residents to other states than it gains from the rest of the USA.

?Colorado, long one of the top destinations for people leaving California, lost more people to other states than it gained for the second year in a row. But immigration and births pushed its population up 1.2%, to 4.6 million.

Yeah parts of Cali are beginning to look like Third World Countries.

That's not a new development. I was there in the 70s and saw my first cockroach there, while hanging with some charming folks who drank MD 20 20 out of bottles wrapped in paper bags. *shiver*
It could have been a slum in any part of the World, and I've seen many.

When I was a Property Manager Cockroach infestation was a big headache for me, by far the worse places were the units I rented to immigrants from Third World Countries, especially S.E. Asia. They weren't all slobs, in fact some of them were pretty good tenants. The problem was that where they came from Cockroach infestations were part of life (mainly due to the tropical environment) and it didn't bother them. You don't have to be a slob to get infestations, using boxes you picked up from behind grocery stores for packing is one of the main culprits. The problem is that they wouldn't report it to me like most American and those from Europe would and the infestations would get out of control and spread to the other units in the complex.

 

[Zebo]

Their water bugs red...least that's what one of my x's from accross the lake told me.

 

[Chadder007]

Ive seen 3 people move here to Georgia from California....and they have been conservatives wanting to get away from the liberal state.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Chadder007
Ive seen 3 people move here to Georgia from California....and they have been conservatives wanting to get away from the liberal state.

If they didn't want to live in a Liberal area all they had to do was move to Central Ca not Rube Central!

 

[glugglug]

Originally posted by: ntdz
LOL, Kerry won NM? Yeah right...Bush won it, everyone knows that.

Bush's current offical margin of victory in NM is only 5988 votes, the closest of any state. http://www.sos.state.nm.us/PDF/Gensumm_04.pdf

There are 18,659 MISSING e-votes, primarily in very blue counties there.

Not only that, but they have the highest undervote rate of any state in the presidential race, with 2.5% of all ballots cast supposedly having no vote for president (http://www.abqtrib.com/albq/nw..._19863_3398082,00.html) while some of the official complaints are that the machines wouldn't allow people to undervote! -- There was a person running uncontested who people didn't like so they wanted to skip that ballot question and it wouldn't let them. That obviously doesn't jive with having a high undervote. The undervotes are also, you guessed it, mostly in blue counties.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: glugglug

Originally posted by: ntdz
LOL, Kerry won NM? Yeah right...Bush won it, everyone knows that.

Bush's current offical margin of victory in NM is only 5988 votes, the closest of any state. http://www.sos.state.nm.us/PDF/Gensumm_04.pdf

There are 18,659 MISSING e-votes, primarily in very blue counties there.

Not only that, but they have the highest undervote rate of any state in the presidential race, with 2.5% of all ballots cast supposedly having no vote for president (http://www.abqtrib.com/albq/nw..._19863_3398082,00.html) while some of the official complaints are that the machines wouldn't allow people to undervote! -- There was a person running uncontested who people didn't like so they wanted to skip that ballot question and it wouldn't let them. That obviously doesn't jive with having a high undervote. The undervotes are also, you guessed it, mostly in blue counties.

One has to not look at the actual votes but also the percentage of the difference compared to the total votes. 6K votes may be small in number, but that is 1% of the total vote. The 19K votes are not missing, the voter chose no preference. Big difference.