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brbrice

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Originally posted by: MrCoyote
Originally posted by: brbrice
RCA = junk... check CR for their repair ratings... how can you tell A1 quality from one look? haha Never impulse buy a tv this big... no matter how good the deal seems.

Prove your claims that RCA is "junk". I still have my grandpa's 19" RCA TV (23 years old), with manual tuner. It still works and the picture still looks good. My dad sold and worked on RCA TV's and electronics. He said they were some of the best TV's made.

Almost all electronics these days are MADE IN CHINA. So it really doesn't matter what brand you buy. The so-called "high end" products are being assembled on the same assembly lines as so-called "junk".

Junk = SAMSUNG. Now that's junk and cheaply made.

Either check "Consumer Reports" or ask RobsTV if you want more info. :p

And your dad "sold and worked on"... ie. past tense... ie. perhaps before their manufacturing moved over to Asia... ie. doesn't apply anymore. Simple enough for you?

Just because you have seen "one" case where RCA has been good... doesn't mean the brand as a whole performs better than the rest of the industry. However, many defects/repairs for this brand (far more than others) does tell alot.

Also.. if your RCA lasts 10 years... it's all relative.... ie. a comparable high-end manufacturer will last longer. And it's also not about lifespan... but about the QUALITY of the picture!

Try again please.
 

brbrice

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Originally posted by: MrCoyote
Originally posted by: brbrice
RCA = junk... check CR for their repair ratings... how can you tell A1 quality from one look? haha Never impulse buy a tv this big... no matter how good the deal seems.

Prove your claims that RCA is "junk". I still have my grandpa's 19" RCA TV (23 years old), with manual tuner. It still works and the picture still looks good. My dad sold and worked on RCA TV's and electronics. He said they were some of the best TV's made.

Almost all electronics these days are MADE IN CHINA. So it really doesn't matter what brand you buy. The so-called "high end" products are being assembled on the same assembly lines as so-called "junk".

Junk = SAMSUNG. Now that's junk and cheaply made.

Err... you wanna ask SixFootDuo about RCA quality now? Hmm... he spent $2900+ (wisely got a refund) but wasted his time and effort in setting up and getting it back to the store. Doesn't sound fun to me.

To each his own... you wanna buy RCA... good for you and I hope you're feeling lucky.
 

Anonemous

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Originally posted by: MrCoyote
Originally posted by: brbrice
RCA = junk... check CR for their repair ratings... how can you tell A1 quality from one look? haha Never impulse buy a tv this big... no matter how good the deal seems.

Prove your claims that RCA is "junk". I still have my grandpa's 19" RCA TV (23 years old), with manual tuner. It still works and the picture still looks good. My dad sold and worked on RCA TV's and electronics. He said they were some of the best TV's made.

Almost all electronics these days are MADE IN CHINA. So it really doesn't matter what brand you buy. The so-called "high end" products are being assembled on the same assembly lines as so-called "junk".

Junk = SAMSUNG. Now that's junk and cheaply made.


ouch calling samsung junk was a bit too much... Their DLP's are one of the best out there along with their Lcd monitors and plasma screens.
 

SixFootDuo

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UPDATE PART DUEX,

Went to Sears, got them to price match a Sony 60" Grand Wega LCD for $2,820 + 35 drop off charge and 43 or 46? price match fee or something of that nature. Then of course, tax. Total came to $3,230

Smoking deal.


I CANNOT wait to get this TV hooked up, the 10th will not come soon enough.


Regards
 

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Originally posted by: MrCoyote
Originally posted by: brbrice
RCA = junk... check CR for their repair ratings... how can you tell A1 quality from one look? haha Never impulse buy a tv this big... no matter how good the deal seems.

Prove your claims that RCA is "junk". I still have my grandpa's 19" RCA TV (23 years old), with manual tuner. It still works and the picture still looks good. My dad sold and worked on RCA TV's and electronics. He said they were some of the best TV's made.

Almost all electronics these days are MADE IN CHINA. So it really doesn't matter what brand you buy. The so-called "high end" products are being assembled on the same assembly lines as so-called "junk".

Junk = SAMSUNG. Now that's junk and cheaply made.

There is no possible way you can think RCA isn't junk and samsung is. You've got your facts twisted (perhaps you shouldn't believe everything your father says).
 

Anonemous

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Originally posted by: SixFootDuo
UPDATE PART DUEX,

Went to Sears, got them to price match a Sony 60" Grand Wega LCD for $2,820 + 35 drop off charge and 43 or 46? price match fee or something of that nature. Then of course, tax. Total came to $3,230

Smoking deal.


I CANNOT wait to get this TV hooked up, the 10th will not come soon enough.


Regards

hope you enjoy it. That's a great deal. TV's have dropped in price since last year. I remember those 60" Grand Wega's XBRIII going for 4.5-5k last year when they first came out. Ended up gettin the Panny 50" since it was about the same price last year with a price match as it is this year. :)
 

huesmann

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Originally posted by: SixFootDuo
UPDATE PART DUEX,

Went to Sears, got them to price match a Sony 60" Grand Wega LCD for $2,820 + 35 drop off charge and 43 or 46?
I bet you RobsTV chimes in again with a post about how crappy Sony LCDs are.
 

RobsTV

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Originally posted by: MrCoyote


Prove your claims that RCA is "junk".

First, most TV's are NOT made in China, except for most crap brands.
Some, like Sharp, are made here in the USA (not just assembled here).

Here is only a small taste of proof that RCA is junk:
Class Action Lawsuit
Actually, they have been using defective tuners and components from around 1980 to this day.
Today's new built-in pre-planned defect (and probable next class action lawsuit) is their Flybacks, which since around 2000 have had a life span of less than 18 months for 50% of the sets built. Expensive part, and have had some customers wait for 6 months for hard to get part to arrive.

More proof that TCE (RCA,GE,Proscan) is junk is the fact that I have had several customers with broken TV's after only 8 months, write a letter to TCE explaining that they expected TV to last longer, and asked if TCE could repair the unit at no charge or at a reduced rate. The repsonse all received was, "Sorry, but your TV came with a 90 days warranty, and after 90 days we can not offer repair services, however we can give you info on where your local authorized repair center is located, which will repair your TV for normal parts and labor charges." Quote is not exact, but you get the idea. They wash there hands after warranty is up. In comparison, had a Toshiba that was 2 1/2 years old, and the yoke on the CRT shorted out. It was a bonded yoke, which means entire CRT also would have to be replaced at a charge of about $1100. Had customer write (or call) Toshiba, and they paid for it all to be done at no charge. Have had similar great results with Sharp, well after warranty expired. RCA blows.

One thing that most do not know about rebadged products:
They are NOT the same.
Yes, the parts inside do look the same, but in most cases, the parts are components that failed to meet the quality control of the original manufacturer. I learned about this long ago, while doing warranty work for Curtis Mathis. Turned out, Curtis Mathis used Sharp chassis rejects in their TV's. These sets with the great warranty, were in the shop more than they were in the customers home. We simply swapped out the chassis with another reject. Reject does not mean defective (although hard to say with Curtis Mathis use of Sharp rejects), but simply means it failed the quality range originally intended, which means it still may work great in other units. Wards Zenith is another example.

Akai HDTV bigscreen at Sam's club, made by Samsung is another example of use of rejects (10 days before one blew up here). I do agree that Samsung is also a brand that is near the bottom for reliability. Take a look at AVS Forums, and the people reviewing these things should be shot. RCA actually is one of the sets of choice for many there, as well as Zenith (now Goldstar because defect warranties forced Zenith to sell their name to LG in 2000 to resolve bankruptcy). They have no clue.

Also, because something worked great 5 years or 10 years ago, does not mean it still would be a good brand today. Things change every year. TV's and VCR's also have no relevance to each other, as even though they may be badged the same, they are still made by different companies (or divisions), with different goals. Apex is a good example. Decent cheap DVD players, but some of the crappiest TV's you could find.

You can ignore my remarks, and those of others here, but at least spend the $5 on a Consumers Reports mag for the item you are thinking of buying. While not perfect, they are about 90% right with electronics, which is better than most. Or just go ahead and buy the cheaply made disposable brands anyway, as it helps support your local small business owner in about 1 to 3 years. :D


EDIT: I like Sony's. Not top of the line sets, but better than most.
I don't like any LCD's, but that is an image quality issue for myself, not a professional repair quality issue.
Many people think LCD is the only way to go.
I prefer DLP.
Both have strong points and weak points, so get what you like best.
 

snowlion

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Personally, I don't like sony products at all from a reliablity standpoint. Sony products seem to break down really often and at a huge cost to repair. Me and my family members have 3 sony tvs break down all lasting at most 5-6yrs, gave up and bought Toshiba. On the other hand, I have had great luck with panasonic products, it just keeps going. About 7 of my cowokers also used to own sony tvs and they also said their sony tv broke down. I had sony car radio, equalizer, both broke down and they were less than 2-3 yrs old, should have bought Alpine or Panansonic.

In market for new TV plasma and so far looks like either Panasonic, toshiba, and JVC. I didn't care for LCD and DLP because of Picture quality, Plasma seems to look like the best picture quality of all of them. Yes, the burn in on Plasma is a downer but I think that issue is overblown, reviews have all said plasma will last about 12yrs and by that time something new and better will come anyway. I think average people changed their TV almost every 5-8yrs.

By the way, check out the JVC EDTV plasma at bestbuy, seem my local location has it for $2399 and other best buy stores sell it for $2999, they said its discontiued. Also second page of bestbuy ad saids 20%off all clearance flat panel tv. So if you can get this model for 20% off plus another 10-20% off for display discount since they don't have new ones, then that makes it pretty cheap if your bestbuy has it for $2399 price. The model # is PD-42WV74 JVC, I saw this right next to sony and pioneer plasma which were about $3000.00 more and their was no much of a picture quality difference among them to justify the extr 3k. So $2399-20%discount-10%display discount===about $1700+tax for display model.

Also costco sells the upgraded JVC 42"plasma online for $3999, rumors on internet has it that JVC uses the panasonic components and you know what from looking at display they both seem to look same.

This might be big YMMV since I don't know if they will give you the 20%off discount since bestbuy always comes up with excuses and management denying any discounts or PM.
 

kki000

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LOL,
i love how u guys bring up old rca vcrs from 1999 to prove/disprove whether rca tvs are good or not.

Yer 19in crt screen has as much to do with this dlp as yer TI calculator has with a nvidia 6800 video card.

The modern fixed panel hdtv contain video processors, d/a processors, light engines, bios ram, video ram, and a host of other things never seen in a crt display. Reliability in one has nothing to do with the other.

Cust svce maybe, but its apples and oranges as far as im concerned.

Example is sony, which i regarded as a reliable brand.(im sure many would disagreee on this point and whip out yer dual tape deck u had in college that blew up after one sememster).
Check this thread out.
gw3 buzz
its a 135 page thread on how the sony gw3 blows a lamp after a few hrs..

Now i own this tv, and yes i knew the problem before hand. And yes my lamp blew. BUt the point is that you cant tell what parts of the new tvs can blow on you. ANd u sure as heck cant tell by how reliable yer 1979 crt tv was.

6 foot, excellent choice, i own the same tv in the 50in model. Even with its lamp problem (which is supposedly sovled on the new sets) id still buy this thing all over again.
Sony btw replaced my bulb in 29hrs flat. Fedexed the bulb 2me.

this particular rca dlp sucks cuz that line sucks, not cuz rca sucks in general.

K
 

Logancreed

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Well, a week from today I'm turning the big 3-0 and I'm getting ready to purchase my first big screen TV. I was looking to get something cheap and I saw an RCA projection for $1299, but I'll probably stay away from that now.

What do you guys think of this one?
Link to Toshiba TV

I really want something under $1500. Would I be better off with a flat screen tube tv?

Any help is appreciated!
 

snowlion

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personally you can get better than that, anything below 50" on crt rear projection is a waste of time, too small and it only cost a little bit more to move up in size. Costco or sams club has panasonic 53" for only $1300 or around there and with liberal return policy, try that route first if you must have crt projection. Personally if you have extra $$, try to wait for edtv or plasma around september because new plasma are coming on market and price it coming down real fast. Its possible to get plasma under $2k by that time.

Only problem with crt projection is the viewing angel, just cannot see to much from sides or too much refelection and beside its bulky. Basically if you buy a big rear projection crt these days, its like buying a dinosaur or a 486 computer. Pay little extra now and be set for next 10yrs.

with LCD you must be sitting in the sweet spot or you can't see at all.
 

HonkeyDonk

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Originally posted by: SixFootDuo
UPDATE: After spending $2,900 on the TV, Stand and 1 cent shipping, I owed it myself to take a closer look at this TV.

As we say here in Kansas, I'm "fixin" to get dressed and drag the girlfriend back down to the Bannister Kansas City, Mo area Best Buy that runs along I435 and Bannister Mall to get a refund on the TV and perhaps find something else.

3 other TV's that look good are the:

Sony Grand Wega 60" LCD @ Sears for $3499

Panasonic 60" LCD Projection, their high end one with PC input :) for right around $3500

Panasonic 50" LCD Projection, with PC input for $2,299 - 100 gift check - 100 gift card - 90 dollars roughly in reward zone points.

Wish me luck.

Regards.

P.S. I knew the RCA was a crap brand. When you spend $2,900 on what you think is a good deal at the time, you will find how easy it is to sometimes ignore better judgement and justify your actions. The saying "hoping against hope" comes to mind. When Rent-A-Center, and Rent-Way carry RCA's to rent out, that doesn't say much for the brand. LOL.

This deal had all the makings of a smoking deal save one thing, RCA does not live up to the same performance and quality of the other high end brands. If it did, perhaps the price wouldn't have been lower and or there an instant $600 dollar rebate.

I spent several hours doing research on this TV. Everything I knew to be true ... was. Everything anyone had to say on this thread was true as well. I also found out things no one else had mentioned. Like, a high number of people have had audio sync problems with this set due to the set being unable to handle the high rez video fast enough. People said this could be corrected with new recievers and the time delay setting? Wtf? No thanks. I will spare the rest of what I learned. I even went out to the local Besy Buy here where I learned the RCA was the least favorite of all the models period with the employees. The one thing I learned along my short journey that was the end all deal breaker was that the set I bought was on close-out. Do'h

Regards.

lol....remember how whiny and defensive you were at the beginning of this thread? You got on Dulanic's case b/c he posted that the price was found else where. And now you're returning it....hahahahaha.....noob.
 

SixFootDuo

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Gotta love these pimple faced video game teens with their dude speak and strong right hands huh? Noob? :) That was even funny to me since you said it in such a cute way. Awwwwww ..... Honestly, you have a bra over your head right now don't you?


So, like, anyways ...............


Yeah,

These Grand Wega's did have a lamp issue early on but have since been corrected. The sales personal gave me Sony's 1-800 support number in case there are any problems.
 

villager

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Originally posted by: Logancreed
Well, a week from today I'm turning the big 3-0 and I'm getting ready to purchase my first big screen TV. I was looking to get something cheap and I saw an RCA projection for $1299, but I'll probably stay away from that now.

What do you guys think of this one?
Link to Toshiba TV

I really want something under $1500. Would I be better off with a flat screen tube tv?

Any help is appreciated!

Look for the Hitachi Ultravision. For old style rear projection, just about perfect. There are alot of reviews about this tv and one videophile magazine called it the best ever made. This review is about a 65inch but here si a smaller one, 50, for around 1700. Its anti glare screen is just amazing compared to the other sets.
 

Dulanic

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Originally posted by: villager
Originally posted by: Logancreed
Well, a week from today I'm turning the big 3-0 and I'm getting ready to purchase my first big screen TV. I was looking to get something cheap and I saw an RCA projection for $1299, but I'll probably stay away from that now.

What do you guys think of this one?
Link to Toshiba TV

I really want something under $1500. Would I be better off with a flat screen tube tv?

Any help is appreciated!

Look for the Hitachi Ultravision. For old style rear projection, just about perfect. There are alot of reviews about this tv and one videophile magazine called it the best ever made. This review is about a 65inch but here si a smaller one, 50, for around 1700. Its anti glare screen is just amazing compared to the other sets.

The new ultravisions havent really hit the market, but for the price your looking at check out the Hitachi 51F510.... AWSOME TV.... I think its better then the last ultravision picture wise. Can't wait to see the new ultravision. I know the 51F510 runs 1599 at CC.
 

woodscomp

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I like my Toshiba TV's, solid as a rock. Dropped my 27" moving it from room to room, stepped on the power cord and down it went to the concrete. Cracked the chasis pretty good, been working fine for the past two years like that. And that set I bought in 96.