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Red Hot Chili Peppers accused of Plagiarism
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MartyMcFly3
Lifer
I was being facetious.
Yeah, plenty of people use his stuff without giving credit. Once it's been out there for long enough it doesn't really matter. Of course, if I published a play that was Othello verbatim and called it my own, that would be wrong. Unless I was trying to make some stupid point about plagarism for my college philosoart class or something. Anyway, a funny thing about the Baroque era is that many composers lifted bits from other's works. Here's an anecdote about Handel "borrowing" material from one of his contemporaries:
MartyMcFly3
Lifer
So in Baroque times, the artists "borrowed" material and that's ok.
In this time period, the artists "borrowed" material and they should be sued?
Unless the songs are EXACTLY the same, there's no reason to make this big of a deal out of it. Dani California isn't exactly the same as Mary Jane's Last Dance. Granted, they DO sound the same in the beginning, but then they both go off in two completely different directions.
In this time period, the artists "borrowed" material and they should be sued?
Unless the songs are EXACTLY the same, there's no reason to make this big of a deal out of it. Dani California isn't exactly the same as Mary Jane's Last Dance. Granted, they DO sound the same in the beginning, but then they both go off in two completely different directions.
MartyMcFly3
Lifer
Didn't say you did... Was throwing it out there for discussion.
SludgeFactory
Platinum Member
The rhythmic elements of the songs have the most obvious similarity. The verse melodies are strongly similar rhythmically but aren't the same pitches.
And the basic drum/bass rhythm driving the songs is the same as in Sweet Home Alabama, which Frusciante apparently says they based this on. I don't know the back story, but I could see this being the type of song that came out of a jam where Chad and Flea started goofing on Sweet Home Alabama, and the other parts fell into place.
Somebody on another forum pointed out that the Jayhawks had a song ("Waiting for the Sun" from the album Hollywood Town Hall, 1992) that sounds a lot like Last Dance for Mary Jane, and that Petty toured with them 2 years before he released his song and must have gotten it by osmosis. You can listen to a sample at Amazon, yeah the Jayhawks verse is more Sweet Home Alabama again. So the next question is who did Skynyrd originally rip off for that song? 😛
The DJ also blatantly sped up the Petty song, and I wouldn't doubt if the pitch was altered too. I don't see a story here. But congrats to a no-name DJ for getting mountains of internet publicity.
And the basic drum/bass rhythm driving the songs is the same as in Sweet Home Alabama, which Frusciante apparently says they based this on. I don't know the back story, but I could see this being the type of song that came out of a jam where Chad and Flea started goofing on Sweet Home Alabama, and the other parts fell into place.
Somebody on another forum pointed out that the Jayhawks had a song ("Waiting for the Sun" from the album Hollywood Town Hall, 1992) that sounds a lot like Last Dance for Mary Jane, and that Petty toured with them 2 years before he released his song and must have gotten it by osmosis. You can listen to a sample at Amazon, yeah the Jayhawks verse is more Sweet Home Alabama again. So the next question is who did Skynyrd originally rip off for that song? 😛
The DJ also blatantly sped up the Petty song, and I wouldn't doubt if the pitch was altered too. I don't see a story here. But congrats to a no-name DJ for getting mountains of internet publicity.
it should be noted that the RHCP song is slightly faster...on that posted comparison, they sped up the petty song to make it fit better.
I dug out both songs and listened...I don't know...it's not as close as Ice and under pressure, but it might be close enough to call plagarism. Given petty's stance on Record industry BS, he probably won't care so much, but warner records might.
I dug out both songs and listened...I don't know...it's not as close as Ice and under pressure, but it might be close enough to call plagarism. Given petty's stance on Record industry BS, he probably won't care so much, but warner records might.
The Huey Lewis song WAS the Ghostbusters theme. Huey was originally supposed to do the Ghostbusters theme song, and eventually did not.
Ray Parker, Jr. did the song, and used the exact same music that Huey had already written for the theme, with different lyrics.
And it so happened that Huey had gone ahead and used that same music (his music) for I Want A New Drug.
Huey sued and won. But the settlement remains private.
The Batt?sai
Diamond Member
best post :thumbsup:
Pepsi90919
Lifer
you don't know much do you?
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