Red Hat Linux 8.0 Installation Problems

JMcWild

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I allocated 5gb for my linux installation on a dell dimension 2300 with XP home currently running on it. I have a Samsung Syncmaster 151v 15" display @ 1024x768. I boot up the rh 8 disc. When I load up the gui installation, the cdrom check is fine, but when the setup tries to load it says unable to display, out of range. I tried this a few time with no change in results. I tried the install with the command linux resolution 1024x768 and it doesn't work. I tried the 640x480 install and it doesn't work either. I can install linux fully using the linux text installation. But when I get to the Xconfigurator setup, it crashes when I try and test the X display. Any ideas on what may be the problem?
 

Optimist

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Until more knowledgeable people come along, I'll take a stabe (<<-- [Later] Holy cow! The correct spelling for word back there was censored!!!! Oh Brave new world!)

I just read your message over again, but am still not sure. Is the install failing right in the beginning when it tries to go into the (now default) graphical install mode, or later when it is trying to set the final resolution for the card and monitor?

This is a fairly new monitor right? I would have thought it would have been detected, so the first thing I would go is to get on google and search for your monitor +Linux. See if anyone else is having problems--and if you're lucky--a solution.

The next thing to try when you get to the "OUT OF SYNC RANGE," is hold down the Control and ALt keys while hitting the plus or minus key. This steps up (plus) or down (minus) through whatever table of resolution values Redhat has in its default setup file. That might get you going. If this didn't work (and maybe even if it did) proceed with the next steps.

If it is failing at the start, I would go ahead with the text install and then go back later to setup Xfree86. If later, then just tell it not to test it, BUT also don't tell the program to start you in graphical mode. (You'll have to go back later and change your /etc/inittab file to startup in graphical mode.)

Now, with the installation done, and rebooted in text mode, you can try to configure Xfree86. With RH8.0, the configuration program is now redhat-config-xfree86. Make certain you have your monitor specs around, mainly the ranges for the horizontal and vertical scan rates. There might also be an optimal resolution (usually the case on LCD screens)--maybe even a whole table of resolutions with refresh rates. Using the configuration program, you should be able to step through the monitor, mouse, keyboard, graphic card setup. I haven't used the program recently, so I'm not sure how well it picks up the correct info by itself. (Obviously not well enough or you wouldn't have the problem.)

In any case, when you are all done, go open up the XF86Config file to look at it. In spite of what many of the HOWTO say, the file is name XF86Config. RedHat 8.0 doesn't have a XF86Config-4 (for XFree86 4.x) and XF86Config (for earlier versions). It just has the XF86Config file (sitting in the /etc/X11 directory). Unless you know your way around this file, don't start editing, just make certain the monitor section corresponding to the name you gave your monitor (there can be many monitor sections) has the values that match what you saw in your manual.

If it looks OK, then use the startx command. If things aren't really screwed up, a failure will land you back on a command line (and scratching your head). If it works, see one of the HOWTOs on changing your inittab file. (I don't remember if the respawn line is simply commented out when the default runlevel is 3 or if you have to type in the whole line. Besides that, you should only have to change an earlier line from id:3:initdefault to id:5:initdefault).

Goog luck...and remember my first warning.




 

JMcWild

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Ok I try the Red hat 8 installation again in gui mode and it just says Video Mode Not supported. I had previously installed rh8 on a different system with the same monitor and it worked without any problems. I searched for syncmaster 151v + linux and I didn't get too much information. I thought I'd pop in the rh7.3 installation disc and that works fine in the gui install.


I'm not a linux user. I'm mainly a windows user trying to get my feet wet in linux. I'm also taking a linux class but you can only learn so much in class.

Ok back to the text installation results for rh8....When I use the startx command I get a page full of unknown messages. Something that says something crashed, produced errors, and email this file to an email address. Sorry I can't be more specific, I don't have the screen in front of me.

I'm installing rh7.3 for now and I'll try 8.0 later when I find out more information.


About the Samsung monitor you asked about. It is fairly new...I bought it about 3 months ago.

 

Optimist

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After you installed in text mode, before you invoked X (with the startx) command, did you do the configuration of X? That was the part with the redhat-config-xfree. If you didn't do the config, then I wouldn't expect it to work.

If you're happy with RH 7.3, you're all set anyways.


 

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I dont know a lot about this but what I would do is download knoppix and see if the machine will run the linux from the CD if it does you will know it is something wrong with the install or the configuration that you have put into the Linux install.

Bleep
 

crisp82

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Post this in Operating Systems, or IM n0cmonkey, BingBingWongFooey, Drag, Bleep (He already posted) and Wizard LRU. There are a load more, but I know these guys know there stuff (not saying every1 else doesn't!).

Sorry guys, no offense intended.
 

JMcWild

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Originally posted by: Willoughbyva
What kind of video card does that machine have in it?


it's a built-in intel something. It's detected as an intel-840.


Ok the odd things is that with my dell 17" crt everything is fine. But with this samsung syncmaster 151v, just "video mode not supported."

I had used this syncmaster 151v with another system which by the way worked fine. It doesn't make sense to me why it isn't working here.

I couldn't find an exact match but I know that the lcd's resolution is 1024x768 max @
50-75Hz vertical frequency, 30-61kHz horizontal frequency. so I found a generic and set the specs to that.

What else can I do?



 

JMcWild

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Originally posted by: Optimist
After you installed in text mode, before you invoked X (with the startx) command, did you do the configuration of X? That was the part with the redhat-config-xfree. If you didn't do the config, then I wouldn't expect it to work.

If you're happy with RH 7.3, you're all set anyways.


Well i experience basically the same end results with 7.3. I did the configuration of X at the end of the installation and it crashes.

 

Barnaby W. Füi

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Intel i845 video has no linux support thus far other than generic vesa video, which still doesn't totally work properly, and even if it did, sucks :p

Ran into the exact same thing at my job, redhat 7.3 on intel i845, video was no go... ended up throwing nvidia cards in all of them.
 

JMcWild

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This is what adapter information says in Display properties.

Adapter Type: Intel(R) Extreme Graphics Controller
Chip Type: Intel(R) 82845G/GL Chip
DAC Type: Internal
Memory Size: 64MB
Adapter String: Intel(R) 82845G/GL Graphics Controller
Bios Information: Intel Video BIOS

I know the video is working fine cause I hook up a crt and it works fine. But I need to get this lcd to work.