Red dots for anti-piracy getting out of hand?

[alkemyst]

First this is not the fault of Quentin Tarantino...but rather Miramax and their attorney/anti-piracy.

The Red Dots (which have been around a while now) for anti-piracy in Kill Bill are noticible to most people...after seeing the movie and walking out I heard quite a few people talking about 'what were those red dots?" most answered incorrectly...'probably Japanese characters'

quick search of Google...and many are talking about them.

Not only that but I had to listen to this anti-piracy thing before the movie, how actors aren't paid the big bucks and we are all stealing from them when we don't buy a ticket......well the problem is, that message is being directed to those that are buying tickets. It's obvious the message they are trying to get us brainwashed on is that movie piracy is making actors poor....

and that there's this huge problem.

 

[LordJezo]

Do any sites have pics of these dots so I know what to look for if I ever see it?

 

[aceO07]

I didn't notice the red dots when I went to see Kill Bill last Friday. Yep, a picture of these dots would be helpful. I didn't notice anybody else talking about it either. There was an anti-piracy ad, however I didn't pay attention to it.

 

[conjur]

So, I assume this is something different from those circles in the top-right of the frame signaling an upcoming scene change?

 

[loup garou]

More info please, I've never heard of this red dot thing.

 

[KeyserSoze]

Originally posted by: werk
More info please, I've never heard of this red dot thing.

Yeah, same here. You got me interested.






KeyserSoze

 

[new2AMD]

Does someone want to bring in a camcorder and get a few shots of these red dots?

 

[alkemyst]

Kodak/MPAA Coded Anti-Piracy (CAP) Code

If I find a picture I will post.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Some commentary on it:

http://www.suntimes.com/output/answ-man/sho-sunday-ebert05.html

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Basically the red dots are *supposed* to not be noticeable to the naked eye, but at the same time they are supposed stand out in video encodings of the film and make them look like crap, thus supposedly thwarting piracy.

But I haven't seen them, either.

 

[DnetMHZ]

I saw Kill Bill last night and didn't see any dots..

 

[Demon-Xanth]

For those that don't want to click (or look for the relevant info):

Have you been seeing spots when you go to the movies? It may not be your eyes! More than 20 years ago Kodak devised a system called "Cap Code" designed to uniquely mark film prints so that pirated copies could be traced to the source. Cap Code uses very tiny dots that flash occasionally but are so small that the average viewer almost never notices them.

Well, something new and horrible has been introduced on some studios' prints. Sort of a giant picture-marring version of Cap Code dots: Very large reddish brown spots that flash in the middle of the picture, usually placed in a light area. They flash in various patterns throughout a given reel while other reels of the same film may have none at all.

A Kodak spokesman who helped devise the original Cap Code says this is not the work of his company but theorizes that it may be intended to be more visible on the murky compressed copies that get posted to the Internet where the original, very subtle Cap Code may be difficult to discern.

On one movie technical forum they are referring to this new system as "Crap Code" or "Cap Code on Steroids." There are reports coming in of viewers complaining of the spots on the pictures. While theaters strive to keep prints free of dirt and scratches, Hollywood starts sending out prints with built-in marring. Among the films known to be afflicted are "Ali," "Behind Enemy Lines," "28 Days Later" "Freddy vs. Jason" and "Underworld," probably many others as well.

 

[Bootprint]

Sounds like another reason not to bother going to a theater.

 

[dman]

I wouldn't know, but, I'll be sure to pay attention when I go see Matrix 3. I'm pretty sure I saw them (on only a few scenes) during Matrix 2, but might have been something else.

 

[LordJezo]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

On one movie technical forum they are referring to this new system as "Crap Code" or "Cap Code on Steroids." There are reports coming in of viewers complaining of the spots on the pictures. While theaters strive to keep prints free of dirt and scratches, Hollywood starts sending out prints with built-in marring. Among the films known to be afflicted are "Ali," "Behind Enemy Lines," "28 Days Later" "Freddy vs. Jason" and "Underworld," probably many others as well.

I've seen 3 of those 5 and never noticed a thing..

But, I bet now that people are talking about it they will stand out next time I see them..

 

[Electrode]

Originally posted by: Bootprint
Sounds like another reason not to bother going to a theater.

Bingo. Sticky floors, noisy kids, overpriced snacks, and now defective film. I'm personally never setting foot in a theater again.

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

I like that... "average user" "almost never" sees them

hah

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: Electrode

Originally posted by: Bootprint
Sounds like another reason not to bother going to a theater.

Bingo. Sticky floors, noisy kids, overpriced snacks, and now defective film. I'm personally never setting foot in a theater again.

ditto

 

[MegaloManiaK]

Originally posted by: LordJezo

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

On one movie technical forum they are referring to this new system as "Crap Code" or "Cap Code on Steroids." There are reports coming in of viewers complaining of the spots on the pictures. While theaters strive to keep prints free of dirt and scratches, Hollywood starts sending out prints with built-in marring. Among the films known to be afflicted are "Ali," "Behind Enemy Lines," "28 Days Later" "Freddy vs. Jason" and "Underworld," probably many others as well.

I've seen 3 of those 5 and never noticed a thing..

But, I bet now that people are talking about it they will stand out next time I see them..

I dont know, i didn't see them in underworld but they were really noticable in kill bill. I saw them several times flashed on top of the tan/cream doors in the bar near the end. Very noticable.

There was an article awhile back on AP about how a study showed that most pirated movies were leaked by insiders and not recorded in the theaters. Maby the MPAA has been checking pirated copies looking for the red dots and not finding them (becuase they were leaked from the inside) and thinking "oh they must not be showing up on film, lets add them to more frames) resulting in it being more obvious.

 

[geNz0]

<--- Average User. I will never see them cause I never go to a theatre at all anymore unless its a big release film or I am with someone special . Reason: You go there and pay through your nose to sit on your ass for at least 1.5 hours.

 

[royaldank]

Never saw them. However, I wasn't looking for them either. I didn't pay my $7 to try and find red dots on the screen. Just enjoy the movie.

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: geNz0
<--- Average User. I will never see them cause I never go to a theatre at all anymore unless its a big release film or I am with someone special . Reason: You go there and pay through your nose to sit on your ass for at least 1.5 hours.

and you have to pay just so you can watch 60 second CAR COMMERCIALS!

 

[EyeMWing]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
For those that don't want to click (or look for the relevant info):

Have you been seeing spots when you go to the movies? It may not be your eyes! More than 20 years ago Kodak devised a system called "Cap Code" designed to uniquely mark film prints so that pirated copies could be traced to the source. Cap Code uses very tiny dots that flash occasionally but are so small that the average viewer almost never notices them.

Well, something new and horrible has been introduced on some studios' prints. Sort of a giant picture-marring version of Cap Code dots: Very large reddish brown spots that flash in the middle of the picture, usually placed in a light area. They flash in various patterns throughout a given reel while other reels of the same film may have none at all.

A Kodak spokesman who helped devise the original Cap Code says this is not the work of his company but theorizes that it may be intended to be more visible on the murky compressed copies that get posted to the Internet where the original, very subtle Cap Code may be difficult to discern.

On one movie technical forum they are referring to this new system as "Crap Code" or "Cap Code on Steroids." There are reports coming in of viewers complaining of the spots on the pictures. While theaters strive to keep prints free of dirt and scratches, Hollywood starts sending out prints with built-in marring. Among the films known to be afflicted are "Ali," "Behind Enemy Lines," "28 Days Later" "Freddy vs. Jason" and "Underworld," probably many others as well.

The solution is obvious - wait for DVD release. 184937492338283473298x better quality, and if anyone puts a fvcking red dot on my monitor, then they stop getting even my RENTAL MONEY.

I'm personally surprised that Sony Pictures hasn't bullied Sony Home Electronics into making the Handycams full SVHS sized yet (So you can't sneak them into a theater), and that Sony still produces DVDR's.

 

[Nitemare]

Saw them in the movie theater version but not the one on P2P. I think the encoding takes them out or something.












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[Staples]

I have never noticed them and I saw two of those movies mentioned in a movie theater. I guess they can't be that apparent unless you are looking for them.