Recreational Marijuana Measures Pass in CO and WA

[waggy]

It would be awesome if this leads to a huge court fight. I would love to see SCOTUS say that as long as weed is grown and consumed within the boundaries of a single state then the Feds have no right to criminalize it.

won't happen.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Or the hair test. The law does not prevent employers from testing and rejecting you.

Many of the refineries now require a hair follicle drug screen (I had to get one a month ago). Due to the fact that it's more accurate and shows a longer time frame I suspect more companies will start requiring this drug screen in the near future.

 

[Northern Lawn]

It was illegal when the crime was committed. that is what counts

Just like getting a violation due to a construction zone.
When the construction is finished; do any tickets issued during that time get voided? 😎

Why doesn't a Governor just give carte blanche pardon? That's what I would do.. but I'm naive I suppose lol.

 

[Saint Nick]

Many of the refineries now require a hair follicle drug screen (I had to get one a month ago). Due to the fact that it's more accurate and shows a longer time frame I suspect more companies will start requiring this drug screen in the near future.

The hair test is very expensive (right now). While you may be correct, by the time it becomes cheap, MJ may be widely available and widely used.

Probably going to go on a road trip to CO next summer!

 

[crownjules]

Why doesn't a Governor just give carte blanche pardon? That's what I would do.. but I'm naive I suppose lol.

He's correct in that the record of committing a crime wouldn't be expunged. But most DAs and states would likely reduce sentences or release prisoners. It hardly makes sense to keep individuals locked up and sucking up tax dollars because they did something that's no longer regarded as illegal. Especially something like smoking a plant.

Here in MA, when it was decriminalized a couple of DAs immediately threw out pending cases that would not have been criminal cases because of the new law.

 

[unokitty]

"... signaling a shift from decades of policies that cost $1 trillion in tax dollars over 40 years, led to the arrest of 850,000 Americans for marijuana law violations in 2010 alone, and fueled the rise of deadly drug cartels abroad..." [1]


Congratulations to the voters in Colorado and Washington....

Uno

 

[davmat787]

The hair test is very expensive (right now). While you may be correct, by the time it becomes cheap, MJ may be widely available and widely used.

Probably going to go on a road trip to CO next summer!

And when you tire of the kiddy stuff in CO, you can head up to WA!!! :awe:










j/k

 

[Nintendesert]

And when you tire of the kiddy stuff in CO, you can head up to WA!!! :awe:










j/k

You guys smell like fish. CO is a much nice place to smoke a bowl.

 

[TheNinja]

So how exactly does this work though? Does this just mean you can avoid punishment if you buy weed from your "dealer"? Or can you actually walk into a MJ shop and buy stuff from them just like a liquor or tobacco store?

 

[Juddog]

So how exactly does this work though? Does this just mean you can avoid punishment if you buy weed from your "dealer"? Or can you actually walk into a MJ shop and buy stuff from them just like a liquor or tobacco store?

How it should work: go to the local store, buy pre-packaged product that includes tax, go home and enjoy it. That's how cigarettes and alcohol work and they're both worse for you. How it will actually work? That's another story.

 

[Genx87]

It would be awesome if this leads to a huge court fight. I would love to see SCOTUS say that as long as weed is grown and consumed within the boundaries of a single state then the Feds have no right to criminalize it.

Stoners for states' rights!

I'd love to see that as well. Unfortunately it seems interstate commerce is abused regularily by congress and the court. I would not be surprised one bit if it is pulled out again to squash the states.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Washington gets all their good shit from Oregon anyway. Oregon, ironically, voted down legalization of marijuana this election. I wonder if they're going to set up pot checkpoints coming into the state....

 

[hal2kilo]

Company has already sent out a memo stating that even though these measures passed in Washington & Colorado company policy has not/will not change due to drug testing requirements set forth by our clients (military & federal/oil & gas industry/DOT)

I'm expecting something from corporate HR will be sent out soon to that effect.

 

[unokitty]

Why doesn't a Governor just give carte blanche pardon?

Because the Governor takes money from political organizations that don't want the laws to change. For example:

The Top Five Special Interest Groups Lobbying To Keep Marijuana Illegal

Cliff Notes:
Police Unions
Private Prisons Corporations
Alcohol and Beer Companies
Pharmaceutical Corporations
Prison Guard Unions

Each of these groups makes large political contributions to governors.

How much did you contribute to your governor's re-election fund?

I think that you have logic on your side. But the opponents have money, and the governors, on their side.

Uno

 

[davmat787]

You guys smell like fish. CO is a much nice place to smoke a bowl.

Actually it was not that long ago that I was salmon fishing and really did smell like fish, I can't lie damnit. 🙁

But as always, the freezer of fresh King salmon is so worth it.

 

[Farang]

Seattle is wonderful during the summer, start planning your trips to New Amsterdam soon!

Come December 6th, it will be legal for those 21 and older to possess up to 1oz of marijuana. Now it is up to the Obama administration and how he has the DEA react to this. Hopefully sanity will prevail, and if nothing else WA and CO will be viewed as trial runs at the federal level and thus left alone.

Let 'em go after the hardcore dangerous meth tweakers and those who smuggle illegally, there is plenty of business for law enforcement in those areas. No need for them to be worried about losing funding or jobs at this point.

Those who will choose to partake should also remember there is an onus upon them to back up their talk of being able to use the plant safely and that there will not be a rash of impaired driving incidents.

I have a feeling law enforcement will have a major hard on looking for anyway to bust someone who has pot for any other possible offense.

Hempfest (usually in August) just got a lot more interesting. There's going to be beer gardens, for weed... so weed gardens.

 

[Nintendesert]

Actually it was not that long ago that I was salmon fishing and really did smell like fish, I can't lie damnit. 🙁

But as always, the freezer of fresh King salmon is so worth it.

I will also admit that I am jelly of your stocked freezer. :'(

 

[Gooberlx2]

Because the Governor takes money from political organizations that don't want the laws to change. For example:

The Top Five Special Interest Groups Lobbying To Keep Marijuana Illegal

Cliff Notes:
Police Unions
Private Prisons Corporations
Alcohol and Beer Companies
Pharmaceutical Corporations
Prison Guard Unions

Each of these groups makes large political contributions to governors.

How much did you contribute to your governor's re-election fund?

I think that you have logic on your side. But the opponents have money, and the governors, on their side.

Uno

IIRC, Mel Sembler was one of the largest donors to the opposition in Colorado. So yeah, add rehab centers that benefit from court ordered treatment to that list.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

The hair test is very expensive (right now). While you may be correct, by the time it becomes cheap, MJ may be widely available and widely used.

Probably going to go on a road trip to CO next summer!

It may be expensive but in order to work as a contractor in many refineries now they require the following: hair follicle & urine drug screens and breathalyzer test.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Washington gets all their good shit from Oregon anyway.

I've been outta the loop for some years, but I was always under the impression the bulk of the "good shit" came from BC.

 

[ericlp]

this news is excellent. Will be interesting to see what the feds say about it or even do something about it. But I don't think the feds have aren't really worried about the average person smoking weed ... tho what happens when you smoking weed in a federal park? Hmmm....

 

[davmat787]

Washington gets all their good shit from Oregon anyway. Oregon, ironically, voted down legalization of marijuana this election. I wonder if they're going to set up pot checkpoints coming into the state....

Uhm, no way. Do you live here in WA?

 

[davmat787]

I've been outta the loop for some years, but I was always under the impression the bulk of the "good shit" came from BC.

That used to be the case many many years ago, aka BC Bud. The problem as I heard and read was the transportation. They would have to pack it so tight to make it worthwhile and safer that often times mold would become a problem, not to mention what happens when the plant is compressed too much.

For at least the past decade or more, 95-99% is all local. Local as in support all of the MMJ coops and what not quality.

 

[crashtestdummy]

I'm really interested in seeing how this works. The argument from supporters will be that as long as all commerce is conducted in-state, it shouldn't be the fed's business. The DEA will argue that having it available in those states will make illegal sales across state lines easy, as there are no checkpoints at the borders.

This will be really interesting from a constitutional law standpoint.

 

[ericlp]

I don't think Oregon would mind if MJ was transported from WA to OR. What about shipping it from say WA to OR? It will get interesting real fast! 🙂