Recommendations needed for good all round graphic card

amt

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I'm using an MSI K8N Diamond SLi board. What do you recommend for me. I will be mainly using the PC for productivity, and some photoshop. I don't play games that often but do I need to make sure I get something that is capable of playing games.

Since I have the nvidia chipset with PCIe do I go for this type of card? or can I look at some of the other brands like ATI with raedon? TIA
 

jdkick

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Any PCI-Express card will work, there's no requirement to run a nVidia GPU on an nForce board.

Considering your requirements, i'd probably say something in the X800GTO line. It's cost effective and should offer the performance you're looking for. If you want any better, then maybe the 6800GS... i'd suggest the X1600XT, but in the US market, there's not much of a price difference between it and the 6800GS, and the 6800GS is superior.
 

amt

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Is AGP old technology? Should I consider an AGP card or stick with a PCIe card. Also do I need to factor ram for Vista when it arrives, no doubt it will require more resources than WinXP
 

JPB

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Stick with PCI-e if that's what you have now. No need to downgrade to the slowy dying slot
 

imported_Kiwi

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I personally have seen no problems running an ATI Radeon 9700 Pro on a DFI NFII (NF2) mb. There are all kinds of "game" programs available. Certain types rely on speed to make them more exciting. First Person Shooter games (FPS') are this sort. Playing any of that type from the past year or so calls for a relatively expensive VGA card, or accepting very low resolution and dialed-back effects. Some of the online (MMORPG's) games offer a very rich graphics environment that needs a decent GPU to enjoy at better settings.

On the other hand, a "puzzle" game, like the addictive "Bejeweled" is mostly bit-mapped, and relies on a moderate speed cpu to run, not a high dollar GPU. One of the best alternatives in choosing video cards is to seek out a discounted card that was among the more expensive a couple of years ago. I didn't feel that I could afford a Radeon 9800XT card when those were still new, nor when only a year old. But I just ordered a new one through an eBay seller, for about $110, with shipping included.

I don't believe there is a PCI-e equivalent (it would be an X700-something), so by going with the latest type video slot, you have to pay more.

The best prices almost always are found online, and a service such as Price Grabber can be very helpful. If you want to hold a card in your hand before you buy it, you should STILL use the 'net to research what you need. There is an excellent Geforce 6200, 128/128, that is very hard to find on brick and mortar stores' shelves. They have been pushed off by the very inferior 6200TC's, that cost so much less.

I think that the 6200 with 128 Bit memory bandwidth, and 128 MB's of RAM, is pretty good for a non-FPS game player, better than the ATI X300. The X600 and X700 fall between the 6200 and 6600, as I recall. AFAIK, each of those "700" and under X-cards are actually Radeon 9xxx's with a PCI-e bridge chip added. I may be off some, but the X300 is supposed to equal a Radeon 9600. The X600 is a Radeon9600XT, and the X700 is a Radeon 9800, slightly slowed down by the bridge chip.


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imported_Kiwi

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Originally posted by: amt
Is AGP old technology? Should I consider an AGP card or stick with a PCIe card.
Except for Asrock's dual SATA mb, the AGP and the PCI-e are exclusionary. If you have AGP, you can't use a PCI-e card, you don't have a slot for it, and your MB is the vice versa of that.
Also do I need to factor ram for Vista when it arrives, no doubt it will require more resources than WinXP.
Yes, Vista is certainly sounding as if it is a resource hog. You need at least 128 MB's of RAM, but that amount is pretty much the lower limit in the market now. I was recently visiting MS' Vista pages, and they didn't name specific video cards this time, but referred readers to the ATI and nVidia sites' pages about Vista.

ATI named the graphics processors it considered minimally capable with Vista's new "Aero Glass" vector graphics GUI, and their Radeon 9600 (I believe that was it), with 128 MB's was named. That equates to the X300, which I don't recall seeing on that list, so perhaps the AGP to PCI-e bridging circuit takes away more performance than a mere pittance.

nVidia, on the other hand, had the gall to name their FX 5200 as being Vista-capable (Vista requires Dx9, and the FX's did not fully implement that), which would be their "PCX-5200" for PCI-e. I would not agree. I would name the Geforce 6200 as the minimum nVidia GPU (and eliminate any of the 6200"TC" cards as being too crippled).


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Bull Dog

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Are you nuts. all of the X3, X5, X6, X7 and 50% of the X8 parts are native PCI-Express, no bridge chip.
 

SpeedZealot369

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Originally posted by: batmanwcm
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
get a 6600GT

I concur. An EVGA 6600GT PCI-E was only $93 after rebate only a couple of days ago.

If your gonna pay that much, I saw a 6800nu (pci-e) on newegg for around $100. Huge performance increase between 6600gt and 6800nu
 

soniq04je

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Is it true that 6800 GS is capable of High Dynamic Range (HDR) ? I saw a box package of PixelView 6800 GS that writes "The Power Of 3 : SLI, SM 3, and HDR". I thought HDR was only available in GeForce 7 series..
 

BassBomb

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Originally posted by: soniq04je
Is it true that 6800 GS is capable of High Dynamic Range (HDR) ? I saw a box package of PixelView 6800 GS that writes "The Power Of 3 : SLI, SM 3, and HDR". I thought HDR was only available in GeForce 7 series..

its available in the 6 series