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Arcanedeath

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I'll do a quick a dirty list of things I might change, I'd go w/ this Video card eVGA 256-P2-N369-T6 Geforce 6600 256MB 128-bit DDR PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail this psu FSP Group (Fortron Source) AX450-PN ATX12V 450W Power Supply this case COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UB Black /Blue Aluminum Bezel this motherboard ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 Socket 939 ULi M1695 ATX AMD Motherboard and this memory OCZ Gold Edition 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail
you can keep the floppy, hdd, dvd burner and cpu this should support all the features you want if you have an old agp card lying around you can use that instead of the video card i listed and its upgradeable to soket am2 w/ a riser card, Asrock is Asuses value brand

edit: the grand total for all these parts is 377.92 (just for the parts I changed) plus 37.74 shipping (the video card is 109 by itself) but this is a somewhat better system IMHO

This is another case option if you like your orginal case Antec Solution SLK3000-B Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail fyi these prices are all from newegg
 

i1o0i

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Antec Solution SLK1605B Steel Black w/ 350 power supply- $59
ASUS A8N-VM CSM Socket 939 Nvidia Geforce 6150 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard- $82
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Venice- $201
Seagate Barracuda 7800.9 120gb hard drive- $88
Corsair ValueSelect 2x512mb (1gb) RAM- $80
NEC ND-3550 DVD Burner- $40

Total- $550+shipping/tax
 

mrichardson2

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Thanks for everyone's advice. I ordered the system today.

Antec Solution SLK3700-BQE w/350W SmartPower PSU $79
MSI K8NGM2-FID Socket 939 GeForce 6150 $84
Venice 3200+ $156
OCZ Premier DC 1GB (2x512 mb) $90
NEC Floppy
WD 160gb 7200 SATA 3.0Gb/s $82
Lite-On DVD $43

$570 including shipping


Stayed with Western Digital HDD since I already have 2 and like it very much

Lite-On has always been good to me

3200 CPU vs 3500 CPU because she made that call

OCZ cause OCZ is awesome


We'll see on the whole 6150 chipset and integrated graphics. It should be fine, and the MSI seemed a little nicer than the ASUS. Thanks to those who pointed this option out, I'd always steered clear of integrated graphics in the past, even for builds like this.

Thanks for all your help.



PS Finns14 "s939 will be dead in a matter of month too or have you not hear of M2 but hey its your money"

Whatever. All tech is dead in 2 or 3 months anyway, or have you not heard that?

My point is still that DELL stinks, and that s939 makes more sense than s754 at this point as s939 will be around a little longer, and especially since I have a s939 system in my house already and can swap and hand down parts easily (which I stated was a plus to s939 earlier in this thread.)
 

Budmantom

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mrichardson2

It appears you don't have a clue, as far as a wife machine anything Dell sells will be fine for her for the next few years, the components are as good or better than what you have chosen and let me know what you think of the tech support that you get with your new system.

I have bought plenty of systems for under $200 from Dell that would be fine for your wife and as far as higher end systems, mine is as fast as what you have and I'm sure I paid a lot less.


Tom
 

Budmantom

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"crappy Dell with generic everything" lets see what's in my case : 1024 MB of Samsung DDR 400, NEC dvd burner, Intel cpu, ATI X850XT PE, Sound Blaster Audigy 2 <--- all from Dell


"Dells customer service is a joke" why would you need Dell's CS sounds like you already know everything.
 

mrichardson2

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
mrichardson2

It appears you don't have a clue, as far as a wife machine anything Dell sells will be fine for her for the next few years, the components are as good or better than what you have chosen and let me know what you think of the tech support that you get with your new system.

I have bought plenty of systems for under $200 from Dell that would be fine for your wife and as far as higher end systems, mine is as fast as what you have and I'm sure I paid a lot less.


Tom

Oh, where to begin.

It appears you don't have a clue, as far as a wife machine anything Dell sells will be fine for her for the next few years

Your comments (and those of others) seem very s*xist. What sort of wife do you have, Tom? My wife is intellegent, but I guess not all women are, is that right? Is that your point? That a woman should have a lesser computer? That you should buy junk because you can save $100 because it is for a girl??


let me know what you think of the tech support that you get with your new system.

When was the last time you called DELL for support on your many $200 Dell computers? Did you enjoy the language barrier, and repeating things 8 times. Being told to check the power cable, turn it off, turn it on. (BTW, I am not in need of tech support on my new system, people call me for tech help on their computers)


the components are as good or better than what you have chosen


Really??

Have you been inside a Dell lately, or ever?

When was the last time you spotted a DFI motherboard in a Dell? Or ASUS, or MSI, or any major brand company? How about a Seagate or WD Hard Drive? Do you like generic ram, Tom? That's what you'll find in a $200 or $400 or $600 DELL.

I guess the entire computer industry got it wrong, Tom. I guess there must be millions of computer enthusiats lighting up the phones to get the hands on the awesome Dell PC's. I guess AMD is a joke, and that companies like DFI, OCZ, Seagate and WD should just go out of business since Dell's are so much better.


I would love for you to enlighten me on


1) a $200 Dell - since they do not exist (don't forget shipping, $99 and tax, Tom)

2) How a $200 (or $500) Dell with an Intel Celeron processor will outperform an A64 Athlon 3200+ with 1GB OCZ ram


Perhaps you are a DELL employee trying to save face, and that's fine - it's your job. Next time I'll check with Toms Hardware Guide forums - where they won't suggest a DELL as "adequate" for a woman.

I came to these forums for mainly, 2 reasons:

1) Everyone here was very nice, polite and helpful when I chose the components for my rig - which I love. I am so pleased with my purchase, and everyone who helped me pick the DFI Lanparty board, the OCZ Ram, my 6600GT card - and still stay in my budget. I love every NAME BRAND part THAT I PUT IN IT - MYSELF.

2) My wife needed a computer for office work. Maybe her needs will change later but for now that's what she does. I didn't want to buy her a Dell (obviously). Did you think that I would spend the time on this forum if I felt all my "stupid" wife needed was a Dell. Get a life, get a clue Tom.

I asked for help in choosing components. Thankfully, there are still a few members at anandtech forums that actually tried to point me in the right direction, and answered the questions I had.

Others, like yourself, seem to have nothing better to do than make pointless comments that have no value. Why did you even bother to put your 2 cents in this thread when you made zero comments earlier. Are you that bored. Or did your employer read it and want you to defend Dell.

Have a few more Buds, BUDMANTOM - might as well get rid of those last few brain cells, huh?


Many thanks to people like Malladine, who actually helped. Here's my favorite post from this thread:

$541 for a Celeron powered Dell pc with a 40gb hdd, 256 mb of ram and almost non exsistant display hard ware, OR $650 for a custom built AMD 64 rig with 1gb ram, tons of upgrade potential and an 80gb hdd.

Man.

Tough choice.


 

mrichardson2

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
"crappy Dell with generic everything" lets see what's in my case : 1024 MB of Samsung DDR 400, NEC dvd burner, Intel cpu, ATI X850XT PE, Sound Blaster Audigy 2 <--- all from Dell


"Dells customer service is a joke" why would you need Dell's CS sounds like you already know everything.



Did you get the Samsung TCCD's?? what Intel CPU do you have - they make just a couple. NEC dvd is soooo special, huh? Who made the hard drive? What board do you have? How much upgrade potential do you think you have their Tom?

What's the model # on your power supply? Not how many watts, but what is it? Do you know?

I don't dispute that Dell will use good parts if you pay them enough for the High End systems. They couldn't justify there price if they didn't.

How much did you spend on that system, Tom. Show me the receipt. I'll have mine up for your comments shortly.
 

mrichardson2

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DFI Lanparty NF4 Ultra-D
Athlon A64 Venice 3200+
Leadtek 6600GT TDH Extreme
New Keyboard & Mouse
Antec TruePower 2.0 550W
Western Digitial 160gb SATA 3.0Gb/s (two of these)
Logitech X530 5.1 Speakers
Lite-On DVD
OCZ GOLD Ram 1GB (BH5 chips)
Aerocool Jetmaster JS Black case (cool as heII)

$1173 including shipping & handling (I already had a monitor)

This was six-eight months ago, I'm sure it's $200 cheaper by now.

I've got it overclocked on air (stock HSF) to 2.5Ghz, my ram runs at 2-2-2-6 1T command rate.

I could've saved $100 on only 1 HDD, and not spent $75 on my case but I loved it!! The $100 for the TruePower 550W may have been a little much, but for $20 more I took it.



How's the heat in your machine with that P4 3800?? Why is there a question mark next to your motherboard on your RIG page?? Not quite sure what you've got, huh? I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE. It's a nice feeling.

No doubt you have a nice little setup there. Your graphics card looks sweet. You obviously love your system, and that's all that matters, right? I still feel Dell's low end systems are junk. It's my opinion. I don't like Intel. Also my opinion. Many enthusiats who build their computers prefer AMD.

My point is, and always will be, you could've built the same yourself for less. If you paid $2000 - you could've built it for $1500. Research the parts and tell me I'm wrong.

I will take a custom built PC over a DELL slap-together anytime. I'm sorry you disagree. Enjoy your computer. Have a nice day.


 

Budmantom

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"What sort of wife do you have" My wife has a masters degree and she has never complained about her slow Dell. How about your wife?

"When was the last time you called DELL" about 2 months ago, they refunded $500 for me because I missed a sale.

"Have you been inside a Dell lately, or ever? " I have only opened up about 20 Dell desktops in the last year and I always see name brand HD and memory even in my $200 systems

"1) a $200 Dell - since they do not exist (don't forget shipping, $99 and tax, Tom) " last 2 systems were $210 and $215 shipped---

"2) How a $200 (or $500) Dell with an Intel Celeron processor will outperform an A64 Athlon 3200+ with 1GB OCZ ram " my $210-215 will outperform ANY equally priced system that you build... oh that's right you can't build a system for that.
 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: mrichardson2
Originally posted by: Budmantom
"crappy Dell with generic everything" lets see what's in my case : 1024 MB of Samsung DDR 400, NEC dvd burner, Intel cpu, ATI X850XT PE, Sound Blaster Audigy 2 <--- all from Dell


"Dells customer service is a joke" why would you need Dell's CS sounds like you already know everything.



Did you get the Samsung TCCD's?? what Intel CPU do you have - they make just a couple. NEC dvd is soooo special, huh? Who made the hard drive? What board do you have? How much upgrade potential do you think you have their Tom?

What's the model # on your power supply? Not how many watts, but what is it? Do you know?

I don't dispute that Dell will use good parts if you pay them enough for the High End systems. They couldn't justify there price if they didn't.

How much did you spend on that system, Tom. Show me the receipt. I'll have mine up for your comments shortly.


This is too easy.

My cpu is a 3.8ghz p4.
NEC is generally considered to be one of the best when ist comes to dvd burners.
HD is Seagate (160gb x 2 raid 0)also one of the best in their field

I paid $900



Tom


EDIT: $923 shipped and taxed , I bought it OCT 27th
 

Bobthelost

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
NEC is generally considered to be one of the best when ist comes to dvd burners.
They are? I could have sworn that BenQ are the best buy according to www.cdfreaks.com.

Yeah, you're wrong :p

http://club.cdfreaks.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=1308

NEC aren't bad, but thier firmware is crap, they don't support bitsetting out of the box and they are one sheep burners for the most part. If you don't know what that means then you shouldn't be telling people what the best burner is should you :D

Originally posted by: Budmantom
HD is Seagate (160gb x 2 raid 0)also one of the best in their field
They aren't bad, if you've got an older design they are pretty quiet and the performance has always been good if not top of the heap. Although the only reason i can see to put 2 160Gb drives in RAID0 is as part of an upgrade for speed when you're really tight on cash.
Even then it's a bad idea for the most part imo. But that's another thread.

Not bad parts by any means, i've got a seagate drive in my machine, and a NEC burner, but not the best either.

$.02 dispensed.
 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: Bobthelost
Originally posted by: Budmantom
NEC is generally considered to be one of the best when ist comes to dvd burners.
They are? I could have sworn that BenQ are the best buy according to www.cdfreaks.com.

Yeah, you're wrong :p

http://club.cdfreaks.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=1308

NEC aren't bad, but thier firmware is crap, they don't support bitsetting out of the box and they are one sheep burners for the most part. If you don't know what that means then you shouldn't be telling people what the best burner is should you :D

Originally posted by: Budmantom
HD is Seagate (160gb x 2 raid 0)also one of the best in their field
They aren't bad, if you've got an older design they are pretty quiet and the performance has always been good if not top of the heap. Although the only reason i can see to put 2 160Gb drives in RAID0 is as part of an upgrade for speed when you're really tight on cash.
Even then it's a bad idea for the most part imo. But that's another thread.

Not bad parts by any means, i've got a seagate drive in my machine, and a NEC burner, but not the best either.

$.02 dispensed.


LOl

2nd is still one of the best.

As far as the HD's it was a free option.

Tom

 

Bobthelost

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I'd flash the BIOS of that drive of yours if you write DVD + for movies, bitsetting is great.

Running a NEC with the offical firmware is a big step down from Liggy and Dee's version, much better performance and it's more flexible.
 

PingSpike

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If you don't want a Dell, get a cheap nforce3 motherboard and stick the cheapest sempron you can find in there. Put a gig of ram in it if you want it to be snappy and the cheapest 7200 8mb SATA harddisk you can find. Fortron 300w PSU and stick ANY video card you can find in the slot.
 

mrichardson2

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Well, looks like your only mistake on that Dell Tom was not buying more than one machine!!!

NewEgg prices:

ATI X850XT PE retailing for $409
P4 3.8 ghz retailing for $630

That's over $1000 already, plus that's only 2 components.

That doesn't include the Audigy card, ram, hard drives at $90 each, mainboard, etc.

If you paid $923 shipped that's an awesome deal - even if you just resell the computer or strip it for parts. This wasn't a refurbished PC, right?

I like the part where they gave you $500 because you missed a sale. That was nice of them. And it was nice of you to share so honestly.

Other than cheaper prices for the PC's, what's it like working for Dell? How are the benefits? Maybe you could get me in?

Thanks for the laughs, good luck with all your $200 Dells. When my crappy AMD Athlon system breaks, I'll be sure to look for your help.




 

mrichardson2

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Tom -

I never said your system stunk, in fact I said your video card looks sweet.

I said in my second post on page 1:

Why would I spend $600-$700 for a crappy Dell with generic everything inside when I can pick quality components from quality manufacturers for the same price and know exactly what is in the system?


I'm sorry if you took exception to the use of "crappy Dell with generic everything" but would you agree that in Dell's low budget systems that is exactly what you get (generic crap)?

Obviously their high-end systems are made with better components (they would have to be), also something I said earlier.

If you had read the entire thread, you'd see that very early on I said:

Sorry, didn't mean to snap back there. I should mention that if a Gateway or Dell every sits on a desk in my house I'll probably have to burn the house down to recover from the trauma!!!

A Dell/Gateway is just not an option for me - but thanks anyway for your input. Anyone else?


It was you that felt the need to defend Dell. I did not come to this forum to discuss a Dell - I like building computers. I tried to make that clear very early in this thread.

I also did not come here to debate our spouse's intellect, the need for men to have faster computers than women or anything like that. I came here to get advice on specific components. If I wanted advice on a Dell, I would've called Dell.

I still do not believe you bought a new system from Dell as you describe it for $923 since the cost of the CPU and the Video card you have far exceed the $923 mark. Maybe I misunderstood your components, P4 3.8 ghz?? Either way, it's a moot point. Your system looks very nice and $923 would be a steal. You're right, I don't think anyone could build a system like that for $923. You did great. Congrats.

Likewise, I also love my system. I like that even overclocked, my CPU runs cool. I like that programs open in a blink and games load way faster than my previous system. I also like knowing every exact component and where and why every wire is ran where it is ran. You may not be as concerned about that as I.

No hard feelings. I just seems like this is a general hardware forum, not a Dell showcase.

I will close by saying, once again, that my "crappy dell - generic parts" is reserved for Dell's lower end systems. The XPS Ultimate Gaming Machine with Dual Cores and all that jazz looks amazing - but it is listed at $3000. I'm sure for that price you get nice, name brand everything. I doubt anything is generic - but you would never know until you bought it, huh??

Again, no hard feelings.