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Torn Mind

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Try turning your settings down as much as possible. If there is no change in fps in your problem scenes, there definitely is a CPU bottleneck.


CPU Speed can be modeled as the following:

CPU speed = (individual core speed)*(amount of cores utilized)

Individual core speed=IPCxclockspeed.

With a 3.5 Ghz clockspeed(4.1 Ghz Turbo Core) and maybe 10% faster IPC, an FX-6300 would be a sidegrade at best to the FX-4100(3.6 GHz stock, 3.8 Turbo) since many games don't use over 4 cores.

I say modeled because I don't know the finer details, but this will do in general for an intuitive explanation.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/701?vs=700
The FX-4300 is faster than the FX-4100(higher IPC and stock clock), but the i5 really kills it. Some benchmarks measure single-threaded performance better than multithreaded performance, such as the 1st pass of x264 or DivX encoding, while others showcase multithreaded performance, such as 7-zip or the 2nd pass of x264 encoding.
 

parvadomus

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FX6300 will give like 20% more performance at stock. OC it and probably you can reach like 40% more (or more) performance.
 

KingFatty

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The problem with considering an FX-6300 is it might be challenging to overclock it on the current motherboard.

So if you need to replace the motherboard anyway, I think it would be better to get an intel setup (or wait till Haswell)?
 

MeldarthX

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clock for clock which pretty much 6300 to 4100 goes......its 100 mhz behind he'll see 7%ish increase.....maybe 10% *but most likey not* increase....

Increasing the clocks will help - but he won't be able to push it that far; 10% at most......and more threads will help.

The question is what's his budget; and is he willing to get a new mb? Then if he is; would it be better to look at Intel over AMD? That depends on the op
 

parvadomus

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Haha, good one. :thumbsup:

It has been proved that PD is like 10% - 15% faster than BD in a lot of games, clock for clock. Then add 1 module more, that will help to avoid resource sharing in light threaded games like this, he may even use affinity masks. That alone will reach 20%. And its not difficult to gain 20% more OCing.
 

Torn Mind

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It has been proved that PD is like 10% - 15% faster than BD in a lot of games, clock for clock. Then add 1 module more, that will help to avoid resource sharing in light threaded games like this, he may even use affinity masks. That alone will reach 20%. And its not difficult to gain 20% more OCing.

His motherboard can only handle 95W processors and he couldn't overclock his current FX-4100 much. Overclocking would naturally push the TDP over 95W and eventually kill his motherboard.
 

KingFatty

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Yeah the motherboard seems to be the limiter here, no matter what fancy chip is used, you are stuck with 95 W and can't really push any good overclock on any chip.

So stick with what you have and overclock how you may with the 95 W, but if you want to upgrade performance, you'll likely want to try a new motherboard with 140 W support to drive big overclocks with stable 8+2 phase power delivery, maybe hold out till Haswell or get other intel setup.
 

vampirr

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FX 4100 is Bulldozer so it has problems so get an Piledriver, all problems fixed. FX 6300 decent even thought you could buy a FX 8320 for 160-180 depending where are you buying and its more future proof... AMD Radeon HD 7850 is fine and it will be decent for next 2, maybe 3 years since graphics and complexity of games improves alot so it needs more and more hardware power. FX 8320/FX 8350 is more future proof but if you want to save up some money FX 6300 is decent.
 

MeldarthX

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Vampirr; at most he could put into that MB is 6300 as its limited by 95w......he could get a small overclock with it and small over clock on the 7850 and not push the board too much and see an improvement.....but other than that he'll need a new mb before going higher much higher