Recommend an LCD HDTV Screen/Monitor

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Slammy1
Is that monitor HDCP complliant? That's a minimum I'd say. My recommendation is to wait it out a bit when you can afford a little bit more.

The Viewsonic is, but I'd recommend 1080p so when blu-ray or hd-dvd become the standard you won't have to upgrade. I've read 1080i didplays don't do so well on the new standard.

Thats alot of what ifs niether one of those will ever become the standard...sorry to burst your bubble!

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: tdawg
HDCP is not limited to PC monitors. HDCP (High Definition Content Protection) is the hollywood demanded encryption/protection standard that will have to be present to play HD content at HD resolutions from an HD-DVD/Blu-Ray player, be it a standalone device or a drive in a PC. HDCP is a secure pathway from the device being used to read the HD content, to the display receiving the HD content. Like somebody said above, it's a key--embedded in each HDCP-compliant device is a chip with HDCP codes or whatever they use.

Any HD TV that has HDMI connectors must be HDCP compliant, but any TV's that don't include HDMI connections and don't explicitly say they are HDCP compliant (via DVI, or some other digital connection), then they may not be. If you ever want to watch HD content on your PC, you will need an HDCP-compliant OS, and HDCP-compliant video card and and HDCP-compliant monitor, otherwise the HD content will either be scaled down to SD resolutions, or will not play at all. If you buy and HDTV and plan to hook up an HD-DVD/Blu-Ray player, you will need an HDCP-compliant TV, otherwise the content will be scaled down to SD resolutions or refuse to play at all.

I don't think the XBOX360 requires HDCP compliance to display games in their HD resolutions (720p, 1080i, 1080p, if possible), but I imagine the add-on HD-DVD player will require an HDCP compliant display if you want to watch HD-DVDs (hollywood won't let them skirt HDCP). The PS3 will also require you to have an HDCP-compliant display if you want to watch Blu-Ray movies at their 1080p resolution.

Google is a great place to get all the HD education you need before making any purchase if you actually want to understand all the issues surrounding HD content.

Sorry but quite a few of your facts are just plain wrong or at best conjecture!!

 

[slayer202]

Originally posted by: MrX8503
The problem is slayer that you want a TV that can do HD for not very much money. Which means the ONLY route you can take is going with an LCD PC monitor. For an HDTV set it would cost a few thousand. As mentioned before the Dell 24" could output 1080P and is HDCP compliant, but i'm not sure how well it would work for an XBOX or PS3. I would look around HardOCP's "Display" forum, theres alot of people there hooking up their consoles to their LCD's.

Again the 24" would be out of your price range, so you would have to settle for 720p, or 1080p downscaled. Or wait till PS3 matures and then buy an hd monitor.

Heres an article from IGN about console on LCD PC gaming

http://gear.ign.com/articles/703/703073p1.html

ok I think this is incorrect. a 23" lcd hdtv does not cost a few thousand. And not to mention I want a TV not a monitor...

 

[MrX8503]

Originally posted by: slayer202

Originally posted by: MrX8503
The problem is slayer that you want a TV that can do HD for not very much money. Which means the ONLY route you can take is going with an LCD PC monitor. For an HDTV set it would cost a few thousand. As mentioned before the Dell 24" could output 1080P and is HDCP compliant, but i'm not sure how well it would work for an XBOX or PS3. I would look around HardOCP's "Display" forum, theres alot of people there hooking up their consoles to their LCD's.

Again the 24" would be out of your price range, so you would have to settle for 720p, or 1080p downscaled. Or wait till PS3 matures and then buy an hd monitor.

Heres an article from IGN about console on LCD PC gaming

http://gear.ign.com/articles/703/703073p1.html

ok I think this is incorrect. a 23" lcd hdtv does not cost a few thousand. And not to mention I want a TV not a monitor...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi...+1105609104&Submit=ENE&SubCategory=411

Your right, none of those lcdtvs are a few thousand, but how many of them are 1080p capable? None of them and the PS3's HD res is 1080p, which is why i said you are going to have to settle for 720p/1080i.

The only lcdtvs that really shine 1080p's res capabilities are the HDTV's that are 50"+, which is a few thousand.

I would settle for a 720p/1080i with a quality lcdtv that you can find, or wait until 1080p is actually more mature if you want to play in that res.

In my opinion the whole blueray, hdcp, 1080p, vista fiasco wont be adopted by the public any time soon, its probably going to be one of the slowest transition in multimedia.

More info on 1080i and 1080p.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-6361600-1.html

 

[Slammy1]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Slammy1
Is that monitor HDCP complliant? That's a minimum I'd say. My recommendation is to wait it out a bit when you can afford a little bit more.

The Viewsonic is, but I'd recommend 1080p so when blu-ray or hd-dvd become the standard you won't have to upgrade. I've read 1080i didplays don't do so well on the new standard.

Thats alot of what ifs niether one of those will ever become the standard...sorry to burst your bubble!

Are you following me around just trying to disagree to start an argument? I'd say they've given fair warning about HDCP compliance irrespective of future standard format. I don't really come here for debate, it's to gain understanding. I offer advice because it's my idea of community, that we try to help others as others have helped us. Now, since the idea of debate has arisen, here's some things to support what I conjecture in a previous post.
http://www.drmblog.com/index.php?/archi...HDTV_+_HDMI_+_HDCP_+_DVI__BAD_DRM.html

http://tv.about.com/od/hdtv/a/hdmidvihdcp.htm

http://www.answers.com/topic/hdcp-technology

That was just out of the first few Google hits with the term "HDCP", there's lots more data on the matter. Perhaps you can offer something contradictory?

 

[slayer202]

ok mrx, but i think we already determined 1080i is going to be fine. if the smaller tvs don't have 1080p, thats fine. I don't want a huge tv, nor do i need one.

Thanks for the help and discussion guys, but can someone please recommend some tvs 23" / $500 would be perfect. Really don't want to spend more than that. Will also consider smaller/cheaper

 

[slayer202]

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[Slammy1]

I would pose the question here instead:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=40

Buying an HDTV is a personal experience based on need, sources, and funding (and a lot of other things like viewing distance, lighting, types of shows watched, etc.) and are best made with research.