Recommend a Digicam for taking night pictures

FreshPrince

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I find that most digicams suck at taking pictures at night either that or they require you hold the camera steady for a while to provide longer exposure time, which I suck at. So, recommend a digicam that takes great pics at night, but does not require steady hands. Thx :)
 

spidey07

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not gonna happen. you HAVE to have the exposure set longer and need to steady the cam on a tripod or stable surface.
 

Bootprint

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As you increase the speed, you increase the noticeable noise in the picture. Your better off using a tripod.


For anyone using a tripod, you can stack multiple pics together to try and clean up the images, ImageStacker.
 

Eli

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Cameras work by capturing light. If there isn't enough light, the shutter has to stay open longer. There is no way around this.

get a tripod.
 

FreshPrince

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Originally posted by: Eli
Cameras work by capturing light. If there isn't enough light, the shutter has to stay open longer. There is no way around this.

get a tripod.


many of you suggest a tripod, however this isn't a feasible solution for vacationeers :(
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: Eli
Cameras work by capturing light. If there isn't enough light, the shutter has to stay open longer. There is no way around this.

get a tripod.


many of you suggest a tripod, however this isn't a feasible solution for vacationeers :(

without a tripod:
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/spidey07/Vegas1.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/spidey07/Vegas2.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/spidey07/Vegas3.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/spidey07/Vegas4.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/spidey07/Vegas5.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/spidey07/Vegas6.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/spidey07/Vegas7.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/spidey07/Vegas8.jpg

just make sure the camera is absolutely still as in on a hard flat surface. Its almost impossible to take night shots with the cam in your hand.
 

FreshPrince

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: Eli
Cameras work by capturing light. If there isn't enough light, the shutter has to stay open longer. There is no way around this.

get a tripod.


many of you suggest a tripod, however this isn't a feasible solution for vacationeers :(

without a tripod:
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/spidey07/Vegas1.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/spidey07/Vegas2.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/spidey07/Vegas3.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/spidey07/Vegas4.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/spidey07/Vegas5.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/spidey07/Vegas6.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/spidey07/Vegas7.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/spidey07/Vegas8.jpg

just make sure the camera is absolutely still as in on a hard flat surface. Its almost impossible to take night shots with the cam in your hand.

those are some nice pics, most of mine from vegas didn't turn out as well :( btw, the 1st time in vegas and bellagio was blacked out! :| was looking forward to seeing the fountain, O show, and gardens there, oh well, maybe next time.

 

spidey07

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you need control over the exposure and apature. without this control it is VERY difficult to get it right.
 

Ornery

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You need a flash that can reach your subjects, but before that, you'll need the camera to focus on your subject. Only cameras I trust to handle that chore, have the Hologram Autofocus Assist:
  • ...the Matrix-effect laser that comes out is in fact an infrared hologram autofocus. This can determine the layout of the subject in complete darkness and shots can be framed in natural colours when the flash goes off.
Example

If you're shooting a landscape, you can set the camera on a chair, fencepost, or other stationary object, with the focus set to infinity, as well as the flash turned off.

Example

Example
 

Kenny

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: Eli
Cameras work by capturing light. If there isn't enough light, the shutter has to stay open longer. There is no way around this.

get a tripod.


many of you suggest a tripod, however this isn't a feasible solution for vacationeers :(

without a tripod:
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/spidey07/Vegas1.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/spidey07/Vegas2.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/spidey07/Vegas3.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/spidey07/Vegas4.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/spidey07/Vegas5.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/spidey07/Vegas6.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/spidey07/Vegas7.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/spidey07/Vegas8.jpg

just make sure the camera is absolutely still as in on a hard flat surface. Its almost impossible to take night shots with the cam in your hand.

Those are some awesome pictures.
 

LS20

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the only differnece in equipment u can make is jumping to prosumer DSLR... they can capture stuff at high ISO as clear as consumer at low ISO...

other than that... buy a tripod and learn how to take photos
 

cerebusPu

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i got a cam with image stabilization. but pics still coming out fuzzy! gah...maybe i should switch to film for nightshots
 

Linux23

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Originally posted by: Eli
Cameras work by capturing light. If there isn't enough light, the shutter has to stay open longer. There is no way around this.

get a tripod.

 

FreshPrince

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Ok, with my DC480, I've conducted the following experiment

1. by hand
2. sitting on a table

yes, the second pic does look better, both with iso 100, F8. Now, how long did it take to take both pics? It took ~ 30 seconds each. Now if you're vacationing, who has the time to find something to sit the camera on, and wait 30 seconds to take a pic?

sigh, oh well, still waiting for an autofocusing camera that takes great pics at night just as easily as taking day pics :(
 

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Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Ok, with my DC480, I've conducted the following experiment

1. by hand
2. sitting on a table

yes, the second pic does look better, both with iso 100, F8. Now, how long did it take to take both pics? It took ~ 30 seconds each. Now if you're vacationing, who has the time to find something to sit the camera on, and wait 30 seconds to take a pic?

sigh, oh well, still waiting for an autofocusing camera that takes great pics at night just as easily as taking day pics :(

a DSLR with a prime lens 50 or 85mm, just set it at infinity and go
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Ok, with my DC480, I've conducted the following experiment

1. by hand
2. sitting on a table

yes, the second pic does look better, both with iso 100, F8. Now, how long did it take to take both pics? It took ~ 30 seconds each. Now if you're vacationing, who has the time to find something to sit the camera on, and wait 30 seconds to take a pic?

sigh, oh well, still waiting for an autofocusing camera that takes great pics at night just as easily as taking day pics :(

there is like almost NO light in those photos. No matter what cam you have the shutter is going to be open a farily long time....greater than a second.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Ok, with my DC480, I've conducted the following experiment

1. by hand
2. sitting on a table

yes, the second pic does look better, both with iso 100, F8. Now, how long did it take to take both pics? It took ~ 30 seconds each. Now if you're vacationing, who has the time to find something to sit the camera on, and wait 30 seconds to take a pic?

sigh, oh well, still waiting for an autofocusing camera that takes great pics at night just as easily as taking day pics :(
Why would you use f/8 on long exposure pics where depth of focus isn't an issue?

Crank it down to f/2.8(or whatever your camera's minimum is), then you won't have to use such insanely long shutter speeds.

Although, you'll still have to use a tripod to get non-blurry pics. But 30 seconds is nuts.

There is no such thing as an autofocus camera that takes pics at night just as easily as in the day, if your definition of "hard" is "waiting". :p
 

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TechnoKid

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I'd be more worried about cameras that have hot pixels because the sensor gets too hot on long exposures.