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[Recanted] All Frostbite 3 Titles to Ship Optimized Exclusively for AMD

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Amidst the fray of E3 reveals and gameplay demos, EA announced a new partnership with AMD that could tip the scales for the chip maker's Radeon graphics cards. Starting with the release of Battlefield 4, all current and future titles using the Frostbite 3 engine — Need for Speed Rivals, Mirror's Edge 2, etc. — will ship optimized exclusively for AMD GPUs and CPUs. While Nvidia-based systems will be supported, the company won't be able to develop and distribute updated drivers until after each game is released.
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:\ , Not a fan of this.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/18/all-frostbite-3-titles-to-ship-optimized-exclusively-for-amd

Updated the title to reflect the fact that IGN's story has since been recanted. They are not optimizing exclusively for AMD GPUs nor cutting NVIDIA out of the loop.
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They are basically giving AMD a head start but in the end Nvidia/Intel manages to surpass them quickly. Most reviewers won't update their initial results so it will put AMD in a good light. Not a good way to do business.
 
It sounds worrying, but then again I can't think of a single AMD/Gaming-Evolved title that doesn't run equally well on Nvidia. Honestly it's nothing to be concerned about.

Worst case scenario, Nvidia takes a few extra days to fix their drivers (a la Tomb Raider). Big whoop.
 
Not a fan either, but when other companies do proprietary bs that affects millions of gamers, you can't really blame them. Guess they really want to improve their release driver crap and win some gamers back.
 
Could this have to do with AMD Cards being used in PS4/Xbox1? EA already has to optimize for the x86-64 architecture and AMD graphics so it could be logical to promote that optimization (which they would have to do anyway) outside of the console market.
 
Rvenger said:
They are basically giving AMD a head start but in the end Nvidia/Intel manages to surpass them quickly. Most reviewers won't update their initial results so it will put AMD in a good light. Not a good way to do business.
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It's a great way to do business. Look at nVidia. This is a page right out of the nVidia playbook.


With that said, I'm not a fan of this type of deal. It makes developers have the attitude of "pay us to support you" rather than try to optimize/improve the game for everyone. Look at all the crap that goes on with PhysX. Where effects automagically require PhysX and can't be done on an AMD card.
 
I'd say its more about AMD being on the PS4/XboxOne than any kind of strange partnership. Of course the games are going to be optimized for an AMD CPU and GPU. This "exclusively" stuff sounds like marketing bs when in fact, its just a side effect of next gen consoles using their chips. I'm sure nvidia and intel will be right there quickly enough.
 
Hahaha so instead of creating exclusive content and/or tech specifically for their cards, they're just going to lock Nvidia out of having access to the game until it's released? Instead of innovating, they're just going to do all they can to hurt Nvidia with lack of access to the game pre-release. Wow.

This is not a page out of Nvidia's book, this is an entirely new low.
 
Yes, this has nothing to do with "amd cards will be 25% better on these titles" or anything. All it means is that AMD will have their optimized drivers at the launch of the game, while Nvidia might take an extra couple days to get it out (since they didn't have the game before hand).

Any reviewer worth their weight in salt will know to hold off until both companies have had a chance to put out optimized drivers for their games. Either way, many won't, which will put AMD in a better light.
 
badb0y said:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/18/all-frostbite-3-titles-to-ship-optimized-exclusively-for-amd
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Many thing is not true in this article. Frostbite 3 will be optimized for AMD Radeons with GCN architecture, basically this is true. The engine will get exclusive Radeon-only features. But many of these just boost up the performance. Sometimes it will be a significant boost, but these property features won't influence the image quality on the other GPUs.
Also NVIDIA will get an early copy of any Frostbite 3 game, only if they want, of course.
 
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Yes, this has nothing to do with "amd cards will be 25% better on these titles" or anything. All it means is that AMD will have their optimized drivers at the launch of the game, while Nvidia might take an extra couple days to get it out (since they didn't have the game before hand).

Any reviewer worth their weight in salt will know to hold off until both companies have had a chance to put out optimized drivers for their games. Either way, many won't, which will put AMD in a better light.
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Review sites live off views. NONE of them are going to hold a review for a week or two for the next driver update to come out. They want their review out as soon as possible.
 
tviceman said:
Hahaha so instead of creating exclusive content and/or tech specifically for their cards, they're just going to lock Nvidia out of having access to the game until it's released? Instead of innovating, they're just going to do all they can to hurt Nvidia with lack of access to the game pre-release. Wow.

This is not a page out of Nvidia's book, this is an entirely new low.
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No, this is EXACTLY what nVidia's "The Way it's Meant to be Played" program did. Games got optimized in house by the game developer locking out other GPU makers. There was nothing innovative about it from a technology standpoint.
 
Aren't all multiplatform games going to be optimized for GCN? Considering PS4 and Xbone both have GCN based GPUs this just seems like an added benefit for AMD.
 
akugami said:
It's a great way to do business. Look at nVidia. This is a page right out of the nVidia playbook.



With that said, I'm not a fan of this type of deal. It makes developers have the attitude of "pay us to support you" rather than try to optimize/improve the game for everyone. Look at all the crap that goes on with PhysX. Where effects automagically require PhysX and can't be done on an AMD card.
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But Nvidia only asks to add Physx, AMD wants locked performance.

Stuka87 said:
Review sites live off views. NONE of them are going to hold a review for a week or two for the next driver update to come out. They want their review out as soon as possible.
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GameGPU and PC Games Hardwareupdatereviews after AMD releases new drivers.

Stuka87 said:
No, this is EXACTLY what nVidia's "The Way it's Meant to be Played" program did. Games got optimized in house by the game developer locking out other GPU makers. There was nothing innovative about it from a technology standpoint.
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Locking out other GPU makers though Physx is Nvidia only? Cool logic.

badb0y said:
Aren't all multiplatform games going to be optimized for GCN? Considering PS4 and Xbone both have GCN based GPUs this just seems like an added benefit for AMD.
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No, because dev kits have Kepler.

chimaxi83 said:
People who are kinda blah about FXAA and especially the crap that is TXAA.
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Stuka87 said:
FXAA blurs the whole screen, so everything looks muddy. But it is cheap.
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AMD fanboys are so pitiful. FXAA not blurs in ages but they still ready to sell their souls to prove it wrong. 😀

Here. Not playable
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Turn on FXAA and own AMD bots while they stare at Powerpoint presentation as goats. 😀
 
Ibra said:
But Nvidia only asks to add Physx, AMD wants locked performance.



GameGPU and PC Games Hardwareupdatereviews after AMD releases new drivers.



Locking out other GPU makers though Physx is Nvidia only? Cool logic.



No, because dev kits have Kepler.





AMD fanboys are so pitiful. FXAA not blurs in ages but they still ready to sell their souls to prove it wrong. 😀

Here. Not playable
crysis3%202560%20msaa.jpg


Turn on FXAA and own AMD bots while they stare at Powerpoint presentation as goats. 😀
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It was about time some thread crapping showed up 🙄
 
chimaxi83 said:
It was about time some thread crapping showed up 🙄
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It was only a matter of time with all the chum in the water.


I have no problem with it, first and foremost I'm not running nVidia right now anyways. Secondly "optimized" is just marketing BS. Third I have little concern over the quality of nVidia's driver team. And lastly, it strikes me as highly unlikely that nVidia won't see the code, you'd have to be a moron to lock out 65% of the PC market's dedicated gamers making your game look terrible at release.
 
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