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Recall Republican Wisconsin Governor Walker status update thread

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The vaunted WI recall project who procured 1 million signatures and whose sole purpose is to recall Walker caved to right wing propaganda?

That is pure comic gold....and then you add being held to higher standard??? Best laugh I have had all week I tell ya....
Glad to hear it. Your continued inability to grasp the tremendous difference between a Constitutional right and a private organization's clerical jobs makes you the butt of the joke. It's good when one can laugh at one's self.
 
Awwww, the Democrats are utilizing longstanding provisions of the Wisconsin Constitution to create the changes they want.

The crybabies that don't like this should go change the Constitution. Then you won't have to cry in the future about it. (no really, go change it. I don't believe recalls should exist, and I'm getting really tired of all the right wing shrieking and whining.)

Hi! The point, yeah, you missed it. DId you even notice the issue was people NOT VOTING then whining about the results of the election?

No, you did not...you were too busy being a partisan hack.
 
Poll: Walker Has Single-Digit Lead On Recall Challengers
Democrats Less Well-Known Than Walker

http://www.channel3000.com/politics/30295124/detail.html

Only a single digit lead for the incumbent Dictator.....I think Scooter is going to go down like a cheap date.

"The poll found the governor holding a 50 to 44 percent margin against Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett, a 49 to 42 percent lead against former Dane County Executive Kathleen Falk, a 49 to 43 percent lead on former U.S. Rep. David Obey and a 50 to 40 percent lead on Democratic state Sen. Tim Cullen"

2 years ago, Scott Walker beat Tom Barret by 52 to 47. A 5 point margin. The current margin is 6 points. The others in the race are currently back by as much if not more then that.
 
"The poll found the governor holding a 50 to 44 percent margin against Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett, a 49 to 42 percent lead against former Dane County Executive Kathleen Falk, a 49 to 43 percent lead on former U.S. Rep. David Obey and a 50 to 40 percent lead on Democratic state Sen. Tim Cullen"

2 years ago, Scott Walker beat Tom Barret by 52 to 47. A 5 point margin. The current margin is 6 points. The others in the race are currently back by as much if not more then that.

Meaningless poll is meaningless, given voters' lack of familiarity with potential Dem challengers other than Barrett. That'll change, obviously. It also seems clear that Wisconsin voters are much more familiar with Walker's real position than they were 2 years ago, hence the recall...
 
Meaningless poll is meaningless, given voters' lack of familiarity with potential Dem challengers other than Barrett. That'll change, obviously. It also seems clear that Wisconsin voters are much more familiar with Walker's real position than they were 2 years ago, hence the recall...

It will change. Walkers numbers will go up when people learn about how lefty and in the union pocket the other challengers are.

The recall has been created because of cry baby sore loser unions.
 
It will change. Walkers numbers will go up when people learn about how lefty and in the union pocket the other challengers are.

The recall has been created because of cry baby sore loser unions.

Dream on. Walker & cronies overplayed their hand, instituted a radical agenda, otherwise there wouldn't be a recall. I'm not close enough to Wisconsin politics to say whether he'll win or lose, but he should just on the basis of being such an arrogant dick.
 
You don't have a recall of a GOVERNOR, simply due to fucking unions. This is an overwhelming majority of Wisconsin residents that want him out.

Are you really this stupid michal? I don't think you are. I know you are smarter than this.
 
You don't have a recall of a GOVERNOR, simply due to fucking unions. This is an overwhelming majority of Wisconsin residents that want him out.

Are you really this stupid michal? I don't think you are. I know you are smarter than this.

Hatred, especially the really deep seated kind, especially the deep seated kind of hate driven by fear that is disseminated from the likes of Rove, Hannity, O'Reilly, Beck, Rush et al makes those that are totally taken in by the well funded Repub Ministry of Propaganda say things and do things that they otherwise would think themselves commitable.😉
 
You don't have a recall of a GOVERNOR, simply due to fucking unions. This is an overwhelming majority of Wisconsin residents that want him out.

Are you really this stupid michal? I don't think you are. I know you are smarter than this.

Let me see that "overwhelming majority" in the polls then. Come on, an "overwhelming majority". Cough it up or shut it up.
 
Hatred, especially the really deep seated kind, especially the deep seated kind of hate driven by fear that is disseminated from the likes of Rove, Hannity, O'Reilly, Beck, Rush et al makes those that are totally taken in by the well funded Repub Ministry of Propaganda say things and do things that they otherwise would think themselves commitable.😉

I see as much hatred being spewed out by the Demos and leftys as I ever see from the repubs and righties. You do a pretty decent job of spewing hatred yourself. You even name 5 targets for your hatred, good job.
 
I see as much hatred being spewed out by the Demos and leftys as I ever see from the repubs and righties. You do a pretty decent job of spewing hatred yourself. You even name 5 targets for your hatred, good job.

I agree that there are a few "lefties" in this forum that share the same "fervor" that you seem to be full of, but I have to disagree with you from the point of view that as I see it, your realization of hate is a lot different from mine. Just do a comparison of both of our posts over whatever period of time you prefer.

My mentioning of those folks who spew hatred and fear is derived from objective observation. That's what those people do, and they do it all day, every day. I may be wrong, but I don't think there's a single person in this forum who would deny it. In my post that you quoted, all I was doing was making a statement of fact. There was no vitriol, no threat, no foul language or any other "hateful" thing in my post that I can see. Which is why I'm of the opinion that your interpretation of "hate" as you used it to describe my comments is very different from mine, thus misused or misplaced.
 
I agree that there are a few "lefties" in this forum that share the same "fervor" that you seem to be full of, but I have to disagree with you from the point of view that as I see it, your realization of hate is a lot different from mine. Just do a comparison of both of our posts over whatever period of time you prefer.

My mentioning of those folks who spew hatred and fear is derived from objective observation. That's what those people do, and they do it all day, every day. I may be wrong, but I don't think there's a single person in this forum who would deny it. In my post that you quoted, all I was doing was making a statement of fact. There was no vitriol, no threat, no foul language or any other "hateful" thing in my post that I can see. Which is why I'm of the opinion that your interpretation of "hate" as you used it to describe my comments is very different from mine, thus misused or misplaced.

I disagree, I think "well funded Repub Ministry of Propaganda" is, as I said "a pretty decent job of spewing hatred yourself". I think it is, it's not up to the pretty high fervent standards of others in these forums, but it's decent. You're on the right track.
 
I disagree, I think "well funded Repub Ministry of Propaganda" is, as I said "a pretty decent job of spewing hatred yourself". I think it is, it's not up to the pretty high fervent standards of others in these forums, but it's decent. You're on the right track.

Fair enough.🙂
 
Here's a pretty decent story about Gov. Walker and the reforms he made. What the results have been so far.

http://www.city-journal.org/2012/22_1_scott-walker.html

"What had the unions most up in arms, however, was a reform that ended mandatory dues for members. Wisconsin unions were collecting up to $1,100 per member per year in these obligatory payments, which they then spent on getting sympathetic politicians elected. In the last two elections, for instance, the state’s largest teachers’ union spent $3.6 million supporting candidates. Walker’s reform meant that government workers could now opt out of paying these dues—savings that could help offset those workers’ newly increased health and pension payments, the governor said. The unions knew that, given the option, many of their members would indeed choose not to write a check—and that this would strangle union election spending."

"The collective-bargaining component of Walker’s plan has yielded especially large financial dividends for school districts. Before the reform, many districts’ annual union contracts required them to buy health insurance from WEA Trust, a nonprofit affiliated with the state’s largest teachers’ union. Once the reform limited collective bargaining to wage negotiations, districts could eliminate that requirement from their contracts and start bidding for health care on the open market. When the Appleton School District put its health-insurance contract up for bid, for instance, WEA Trust suddenly lowered its rates and promised to match any competitor’s price. Appleton will save $3 million during the current school year.

Appleton isn’t alone. According to a report by the MacIver Institute, as of September 1, “at least 25 school districts in the Badger State had reported switching health care providers/plans or opening insurance bidding to outside companies.” The institute calculates that these steps will save the districts $211.45 per student. If the state’s other 250 districts currently served by WEA Trust follow suit, the savings statewide could reach hundreds of millions of dollars."
 
Here's a pretty decent story about Gov. Walker and the reforms he made. What the results have been so far.

http://www.city-journal.org/2012/22_1_scott-walker.html

"What had the unions most up in arms, however, was a reform that ended mandatory dues for members. Wisconsin unions were collecting up to $1,100 per member per year in these obligatory payments, which they then spent on getting sympathetic politicians elected. In the last two elections, for instance, the state’s largest teachers’ union spent $3.6 million supporting candidates. Walker’s reform meant that government workers could now opt out of paying these dues—savings that could help offset those workers’ newly increased health and pension payments, the governor said. The unions knew that, given the option, many of their members would indeed choose not to write a check—and that this would strangle union election spending."

Good for them, the person can now use that money to support a candidate of their choosing if they want, rather than have that money go to whomever union leaderships deems fit for it. Might end up in the same place, but at least the person has a choice as to where their own money goes. How can that be a bad thing?
 
You don't have a recall of a GOVERNOR, simply due to fucking unions. This is an overwhelming majority of Wisconsin residents that want him out.

Are you really this stupid michal? I don't think you are. I know you are smarter than this.

I'm not stupid. But you must be, or just a liar.

As seen by the polls, there is no 'overwhelming majority' of residents that want him out.

If you were honest you would know its just about public unions. Who leaders are upset they lost a forced source of funding.

Who organized the recalls? Unions.
Who is spending millions on the recalls? Unions.
Who is interviewing democrat candidates for governor? Unions

You been told by the unions so many times its not the unions, that you belive them.


P.S.

Way to stay classy union thugs - Booing during the govenors speech last nigth.

I thought you wanted less division in goverment? Way to work to create that enivorment.
 
I see as much hatred being spewed out by the Demos and leftys as I ever see from the repubs and righties. You do a pretty decent job of spewing hatred yourself. You even name 5 targets for your hatred, good job.

I think if you take a sincere and objective look at these forums and try to figure out how many posters demonize ideological conservatives as opposed to ideological liberals you will find a highly disproportionate amount of hatred towards liberals. I mean I can't even count how many times I've been told some bizarre and insane thing about what a conservative thinks about liberals.

A lot of this simply comes from how the two sides talk about issues. Attacks on conservatives are anything but absent on the left, but opposition to conservatism is not as central to liberalism as opposition to liberalism is to conservatism.
 
I think if you take a sincere and objective look at these forums and try to figure out how many posters demonize ideological conservatives as opposed to ideological liberals you will find a highly disproportionate amount of hatred towards liberals. I mean I can't even count how many times I've been told some bizarre and insane thing about what a conservative thinks about liberals.

A lot of this simply comes from how the two sides talk about issues. Attacks on conservatives are anything but absent on the left, but opposition to conservatism is not as central to liberalism as opposition to liberalism is to conservatism.

I really disagree on this, but I will admit I have something of a confirmation bias or perhaps an ideological blindness. I see more hateful attacks on Republicans/conservatives in these forums along with bigoted attacks on religion on a very regular basis. I also see hateful attacks on Democrats/liberals/leftys on a regular basis. It's possible that since i'm more sensitive to attacks on the right that I notice them, and miss the attacks on the left, but I really don't think so.
 
You mean nothing other than the poll that showed 59% of Wisconsin voters supported the recall effort.

? I don't believe I've seen that poll. The latest polls don't really show what you're claiming but then again as noted you intentionally left it vague so you could squirm your way out if called on it. Typical.
 
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