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Recall Republican Wisconsin Governor Walker status update thread

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davmat787 said:
Is this the most recent poll? It is from 11/15, just curious if anyone has conducted a more recent poll.
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Just over two weeks old and shows a rising trend when you look back at polling through the year specifically about him being recalled, not his approval rating.

Will he be recalled? Time will tell. The sentiment seems to be the majority favor the notion and it is consistently growing.
 
Fear No Evil said:
Bowfinger said:
Yet he has a 58% disapproval rating with the People of Wisconsin. Seems like the people most impacted by his purported "help" disagree with you.
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So now disapproval ratings determine if we recall people? There will be an election in 3 years to decide if the people like his reforms or not. There is a reason we have elected terms of Government so people like Walker can reform government and not have a bunch of union thugs and criminals try to get him recalled for fixing things.

This is nothing but a bunch of crybaby Democrats who can't win an election trying to circumvent the process. NOTHING Governor Walker has done deserves a recall. Elections have consequences, unless you are a Democrat, then you just having them until you get the results you want.

It is funny watching people already trying to come up with the excuses for why Walker will survive this.. Koch Brothers, cheating, etc. The only CHEATERS are the Democrats who when they aren't fleeing the state are trying to recall people who have done nothing illegal or wrong.
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FNE is now trying to feign ignorance of the anti-Walker poll while also suggesting we set policy according to polls. Yet here was his response on 11/17 (post #70 in this thread), when I first posted the poll. Oops. I love the smell of dishonesty in the morning ... seasoned with a spoonful of naked hypocrisy, of course.
 
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MomentsofSanity said:
Do you ever stop and actually think after your post how stupid you sound at times? Easier to ignore reality and call everyone else liars when they speak the truth I guess.

http://www.channel3000.com/politics/29780111/detail.html
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WPR and a liberal arts college poll shows their pool wants him recalled? I am surprised it wasn't over 75%...

Polls don't mean much especially when you take the source of those polls into account. I think the only way this poll would have been more biased is if the teacher's union themselves conducted it.
 
Zivic said:
WPR and a liberal arts college poll shows their pool wants him recalled? I am surprised it wasn't over 75%...

Polls don't mean much especially when you take the source of those polls into account. I think the only way this poll would have been more biased is if the teacher's union themselves conducted it.
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Before you further double-down on ignorance, you might want to go back and read the thread beginning at post 60-70 where I introduced the poll information. We cycled through all the usual knee-jerk nutter attacks -- liberal sample, loaded wording, etc. All were refuted easily because this was a scientific survey of random phone numbers using neutral questions. You may not like the results, but only a fool wil refuse to acknowledge facts.
 
Zivic said:
WPR and a liberal arts college poll shows their pool wants him recalled? I am surprised it wasn't over 75%...

Polls don't mean much especially when you take the source of those polls into account. I think the only way this poll would have been more biased is if the teacher's union themselves conducted it.
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Unless it comes from a Conservative source then all these rules do not apply....
 
Lemon law said:
At the rate the recall Scott Walker folks are going, they will have at least 900,000 signatures by the deadline.
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And? 1,004,303 voted against him. That enough sigs are collected should not surprise anyone IMO, that seems like a foregone conclusion since they only need to collect what, half the number that voted against him?
 
davmat787 said:
And? 1,004,303 voted against him. That enough sigs are collected should not surprise anyone IMO, that seems like a foregone conclusion since they only need to collect what, half the number that voted against him?
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38% of Union members voted for Walker too and I don't think they will make that mistake again. 😉
 
Ausm said:
38% of Union members voted for Walker too and I don't think they will make that mistake again. 😉
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Of course they won't, they are probably all wearing cement boots at the bottom of Green Bay thanks to the unions enforcement goons. 😉
 
Oh, as all the violence is mainly commit by Walker supporters who rip up signatures.

As the Unions support Wisconsin laws of democracy in action. A recall election is in the State of Wisconsin constitution, so davmat787, go peddle your bullshit elsewhere. I am sure the Koch brothers love you. As they bought the Walker election on false pretenses. And now the people of Wisconsin have buyers regret.
 
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Lemon law said:
Oh, as all the violence is mainly commit by Walker supporters who rip up signatures.

As the Unions support Wisconsin laws of democracy in action. A recall election is in the State of Wisconsin constitution, so davmat787. So go peddle your bullshit elsewhere. I am sure the Koch brothers love you. As they bought the Walker election on false pretenses.
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I see humor is not your strongsuit, do you really think I was serious that there are thousands of union workers that voted for Walker at the bottom of Green Bay? 🙄
 
Ausm said:
Unless it comes from a Conservative source then all these rules do not apply....
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That's BS... anyone that has any knowledge of stats, knows that polls accuracy and bias can vary a lot. It is very difficult to have a poll be accurate.

In the end, the poll doesn't mean sh!t.... It isn't what will determine the recall or failed attempt at a recall.

Ausm, You are still a fool though. Your cause is no better than the "evil" you are trying to recall. You will replace one bad leader with one that will likely be much worse.... good for you! But still, that is only if your ignorant pursuit actually results in a recall.
 
A constant state of perpetual recall. Yeah! That's what the state needs.

Prosser wasnt enough? The recalls weren't enough? How much of the states resources are you willing to spend in the name of poor sportsmanship?
You didn't win then and I'm betting you won't win this one either.

Welcome to the new political environment brought to you by Greece and Italy... I mean, unionistas and socialists.

Sent from my Supercharged Asus Transformer
 
Here is an example of the vile misguided people pushing this recall:

http://mediatrackers.org/2011/12/wife-of-state-employee-suggests-walkers-wife-sons-be-raped/

Wife of State Employee Suggests Walker’s Wife, Sons be Raped?

By Brian Sikma
On Sunday, the Green Bay Press-Gazette put a link on its Facebook page to an Associated Press story detailing state aid cuts to organizations that help victims of sexual abuse. After that story was posted, a reader left a comment expressing outrage that the state would cut such aid and asserted that perhaps Governor Scott Walker’s wife or children should become victims of sexual assault so the governor could see the how devastating the state aid cuts really are.


The first comment reads:
Another thing Walker has destroyed . . . well just more people that will sign for recall walker now . . . is he really that ignorant to even attack victims at their lowest . . . what a real prize, maybe someone should rape and victimize his wife and daughter if he has any . . . or even sons, then he will wish he supported this service a lot more.
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The women, Nancy Butzlaff, appears to have been the first to comment on this particular story on the Press-Gazette’s page. Not too long after her comment, another woman, Jenni Kone-Keeler, suggested that perhaps the governor himself should become the victim of a sexual assault or some assault-related crime. One conservative activist, Lauren Stephens, said that the comments were left up on the Press-Gazette‘s Facebook page for close to nine hours before the paper removed them.
The Butzlaffs

According to Butzlaff’s personal Facebook page, she is married to Robert A. Butzlaff. A search of a Milwaukee Journal Sentinel database found a Robert A. Butzlaff who works for the state of Wisconsin as a corrections officer and made over $63,000 – including overtime pay – in 2010.


Court documents show that Nancy Butzlaff pled no contest in 2007 to a charge that she contributed to the delinquency of a child. By cross checking addresses and names found in other court cases, it appears that this is the same Nancy Butzlaff who advocated that Governor Walker’s family become the victims of sexual assault crimes.
 
But why waste time on crazy old threats to the government.. Here is a great article to reference:

http://www.journaltimes.com/news/op...cle_278f57e2-1e09-11e1-992a-001871e3ce6c.html

Commentary -- Republicans’ focus remains getting state back to work
State Rep. Robin Vos | Posted: Saturday, December 3, 2011 5:46 pm | (10) Comments

When Republicans took over the majority in the Assembly and Senate 11 months ago, we inherited a financial catastrophe. The former administration and L:Legislature used quick-fixes to balance the state's budget. Wisconsin taxpayers were then stuck with a pile of overdue bills and a $3.6 billion structural deficit.

The problems just didn't surface overnight. This fiscal mess came from eight years of poor financial planning by the Doyle administration.
There were raids on the transportation fund as well as an illegal raid of $200 million from the Injured Patients and Families Compensation Fund.
Former Gov. Jim Doyle used one-time federal stimulus money to plug any holes in the budget. He also never paid off a bill that was racking up interest of more than $4,500 a day: We owed the State of Minnesota $59.7 million plus to fulfill a tax reciprocity agreement. The nonpartisan Legislative Audit Bureau also found that Gov. Doyle's office transferred nearly $50 million from accounts that had no money. It was time to start paying our bills and reign in the out-of-control and unsustainable government spending without raising taxes.

By law, state legislators and the governor are obligated to balance the state's checkbook despite the unpaid bills from the prior administration. However, like the family checkbook, the state's doesn't include the future bills that are expected to come in. The nonpartisan Legislative Fiscal Bureau tracks that for the state by using GAAP accounting or Generally Accepted Accounting Principles.
For the past two decades, each Legislature has had at least a billion dollars in future liabilities and, unfortunately, the GAAP deficit grew again this year. The Legislative Fiscal Bureau puts the deficit at $2.94 billion for 2009-10 (fiscal year). The Department of Administration's budget brief papers estimate it to be $2.965 billion for 2010-11 and $2.99 billion for 2011-12.

What complicated matters this budget cycle was the pile of unpaid bills and the $3.6 billion deficit.

Without Doyle's leftover bills, the GOP Legislature could have pared the GAAP deficit by at least 10 percent.

In order to start to get our fiscal house in order, the state had to first pay off those old bills. We paid the State of Minnesota what we owed them plus interest. We repaid the $200 million to the Injured Patients and Families Compensation Fund. When additional revenue surfaced late in the budgetary cycle, we were responsible and paid off our bills and paid down our debt. We did not go on a spending spree.

What we did is set sound priorities for our state and made sure that essential state services were kept intact. We budgeted $1.2 billion more into medical assistance programs and developed a way to sustain the programs without impacting the people who need them the most. We also gave local governments and school districts a way to balance their own budgets. In essence, our governor and the Republicans in both chambers laid the foundation for future balanced budgets throughout the state.
We will continue to do what our state Constitution requires us to do: on an annual basis, our incoming revenues must take care of the state's expenses and that the state's checkbook must maintain at least a balance of $65 million. After passing a very fiscally sound spending plan that erased that $3.6 billion deficit, the LFB calculated that the state may have a surplus at the end of the two-year budget cycle. This will help us pay off more of the future liabilities so we can become more financially sound.
The incoming revenues to the state will definitely fluctuate and we'll make the necessary adjustments. However, there's one thing that won't change and that's our focus on getting Wisconsin back to work. After two special legislative sessions on jobs, state lawmakers have provided the ground work for a better economy and the creation of more private sector jobs. Getting people back to work and improving the state's economy are our top priorities. Economic recoveries don't happen overnight, but it seems every day another company is announcing plans to expand and to hire new workers. It is evident that our budgetary decisions are paying off and our reforms are working.

While it will take even more time to reverse the poor financial decisions from eight years, I believe in 11 months we've made amazing headway. We can be proud of what we've accomplished in a short time and the people of Wisconsin will be better off because of the fiscal decisions that we made this year and the ones we'll make in the year to come.

State Rep. Robin Vos, R-Rochester, is co-chairman of the Joint Finance Committee.



Read more: http://www.journaltimes.com/news/op...e09-11e1-992a-001871e3ce6c.html#ixzz1fghenMUH
 
Agfadoc said:
But why waste time on crazy old threats to the government.. Here is a great article to reference:

http://www.journaltimes.com/news/op...cle_278f57e2-1e09-11e1-992a-001871e3ce6c.html

Commentary -- Republicans’ focus remains getting state back to work
State Rep. Robin Vos | Posted: Saturday, December 3, 2011 5:46 pm | (10) Comments

When Republicans took over the majority in the Assembly and Senate 11 months ago, we inherited a financial catastrophe. The former administration and L:Legislature used quick-fixes to balance the state's budget. Wisconsin taxpayers were then stuck with a pile of overdue bills and a $3.6 billion structural deficit.

The problems just didn't surface overnight. This fiscal mess came from eight years of poor financial planning by the Doyle administration.
There were raids on the transportation fund as well as an illegal raid of $200 million from the Injured Patients and Families Compensation Fund.
Former Gov. Jim Doyle used one-time federal stimulus money to plug any holes in the budget. He also never paid off a bill that was racking up interest of more than $4,500 a day: We owed the State of Minnesota $59.7 million plus to fulfill a tax reciprocity agreement. The nonpartisan Legislative Audit Bureau also found that Gov. Doyle's office transferred nearly $50 million from accounts that had no money. It was time to start paying our bills and reign in the out-of-control and unsustainable government spending without raising taxes.

By law, state legislators and the governor are obligated to balance the state's checkbook despite the unpaid bills from the prior administration. However, like the family checkbook, the state's doesn't include the future bills that are expected to come in. The nonpartisan Legislative Fiscal Bureau tracks that for the state by using GAAP accounting or Generally Accepted Accounting Principles.
For the past two decades, each Legislature has had at least a billion dollars in future liabilities and, unfortunately, the GAAP deficit grew again this year. The Legislative Fiscal Bureau puts the deficit at $2.94 billion for 2009-10 (fiscal year). The Department of Administration's budget brief papers estimate it to be $2.965 billion for 2010-11 and $2.99 billion for 2011-12.

What complicated matters this budget cycle was the pile of unpaid bills and the $3.6 billion deficit.

Without Doyle's leftover bills, the GOP Legislature could have pared the GAAP deficit by at least 10 percent.

In order to start to get our fiscal house in order, the state had to first pay off those old bills. We paid the State of Minnesota what we owed them plus interest. We repaid the $200 million to the Injured Patients and Families Compensation Fund. When additional revenue surfaced late in the budgetary cycle, we were responsible and paid off our bills and paid down our debt. We did not go on a spending spree.

What we did is set sound priorities for our state and made sure that essential state services were kept intact. We budgeted $1.2 billion more into medical assistance programs and developed a way to sustain the programs without impacting the people who need them the most. We also gave local governments and school districts a way to balance their own budgets. In essence, our governor and the Republicans in both chambers laid the foundation for future balanced budgets throughout the state.
We will continue to do what our state Constitution requires us to do: on an annual basis, our incoming revenues must take care of the state's expenses and that the state's checkbook must maintain at least a balance of $65 million. After passing a very fiscally sound spending plan that erased that $3.6 billion deficit, the LFB calculated that the state may have a surplus at the end of the two-year budget cycle. This will help us pay off more of the future liabilities so we can become more financially sound.
The incoming revenues to the state will definitely fluctuate and we'll make the necessary adjustments. However, there's one thing that won't change and that's our focus on getting Wisconsin back to work. After two special legislative sessions on jobs, state lawmakers have provided the ground work for a better economy and the creation of more private sector jobs. Getting people back to work and improving the state's economy are our top priorities. Economic recoveries don't happen overnight, but it seems every day another company is announcing plans to expand and to hire new workers. It is evident that our budgetary decisions are paying off and our reforms are working.

While it will take even more time to reverse the poor financial decisions from eight years, I believe in 11 months we've made amazing headway. We can be proud of what we've accomplished in a short time and the people of Wisconsin will be better off because of the fiscal decisions that we made this year and the ones we'll make in the year to come.

State Rep. Robin Vos, R-Rochester, is co-chairman of the Joint Finance Committee.



Read more: http://www.journaltimes.com/news/op...e09-11e1-992a-001871e3ce6c.html#ixzz1fghenMUH
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This has been debunked read through the thread I have posted proof many times.
 
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