Reborn Cabinets in SOCAL is a ripoff

moonbogg

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We have a smallish/medium sized kitchen. They came to give us a quote for a new kitchen (without appliances), just counters and cabinets. They wanted $65,000.00. I laughed inside, but then asked how much just to reface the existing cabinets, because our kitchen isn't bad as it is anyway, certainly not bad enough to spend 65k. Anyway, he said to reface the cabinets would cost at least $20,000.00. What the hell is wrong with these assholes?

Before I spend $65k on a kitchen, I'd buy a second house in a low cost area and rent it out. Jesus. My brother in law moved to Idaho and bought a HUGE 2 story house with tons of land for a little over twice the cost of that stupid kitchen, lol.
 
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NutBucket

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More because stupid people will pay. There is a glut of cheap labor here so that's not the issue.
 

dud

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Because they can?

It's only people like you that tell them that they can't ...
 

WackyDan

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Because Southern California?

Plus because there are a lot of gullible people out there that think if they spend $65k on a kitchen it magically makes their house worth $120k more.... Thanks to the likes of all the cable home improvement shows.

The reality is, a new kitchen may replace value lost due to the old run down kitchen you once had and add to the marketability of the home... Making it more appealing and sell faster.

So this cabinet shop is just looking for suckers.

We just put in a kick as kitchen for about 21k... With appliances. That was a complete gut... all drywall on walls and ceiling torn out, new cabinets, new tile floor, new appliances. In the end it was relatively cheap, but we have nice (not generic apartment type) cabinets and high end looking floor and granite even though the price was right. There are a lot of consumers out there that will spend money on something just because it is more expensive.
 

moonbogg

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I think I know why. Its because most of the people who buy new kitchens don't pay with money. They refinance their house and use the equity for shit like that, so they just pay for it with debt like a true moron would. Few people pay with actual money. Also, this is SOCAL, the land where people will do anything to have the fancy stuff, even if it means paying out the ass until the day they die. They want to look like the TV shows they watch.
 

edro

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We got 3 quotes on painting our entire interior.
$20,000, $12,000 and $3,000

We hired the $3000 guy and he did great.
 

moonbogg

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It cost us $15,000 to reface our kitchen cabinets and our kitchen is pretty large.

That's still a lot, but I know it depends on what they are doing. And if you have a large kitchen then that's more work.

We got 3 quotes on painting our entire interior.
$20,000, $12,000 and $3,000

We hired the $3000 guy and he did great.

lol my thoughts exactly. We hired a cost effective guy to paint the interior as well, actually about that same exact cost and it looks wonderful.

For 65k it better be egyptian marble, socal or not that is absurd.

He said 65k was the national average. It may be, but its still crazy if you ask me. I don't see the average person having that much to spend on anything let alone a kitchen (unless debt. Yay debt)
 
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MarkXIX

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We got 3 quotes on painting our entire interior.
$20,000, $12,000 and $3,000

We hired the $3000 guy and he did great.

We decided we didn't want to do some painting in our previous house, so we called two contractors to come bid the two rooms to paint.

One quoted $800 and the other quoted $500, we did it ourselves in the end for $30 in materials.
 

edro

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We had Home Depot do the cabinets and granite countertops at our last house.

2 tier top cabinets, island, super cabinet ($1200 by itself), wine bar, etc.
Top tier granite (highest HD sold ~$80/sqft), higher end Thomasville cabinets.

$14,000 installed
 
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edro

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We decided we didn't want to do some painting in our previous house, so we called two contractors to come bid the two rooms to paint.
One quoted $800 and the other quoted $500, we did it ourselves in the end for $30 in materials.
It was $3000 for the entire house, all rooms, all trim, all doors, all ceilings.
We provided paint.
 

Humpy

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LOL. You got the marked up "I don't know if I really want to work for this crazy fucker" price of $65K. :)
 

JimKiler

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For 65k it better be egyptian marble, socal or not that is absurd.

I was thinking it better be solid mahogany wood.

I would have loved to asked him for examples of their work after hearing the price. Are the hinges and handles 24 carat gold?
 

Anubis

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pretty sure our kitchen reno was under that and it included a lot more then just cabs,

we gutted it to the studs and subfloor, moved windows and doors, took out a wall, infloor heating, new everything, custom cabs, quarts counters and so on
 

JulesMaximus

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That's still a lot, but I know it depends on what they are doing. And if you have a large kitchen then that's more work.

We had a few cabinets that needed to be replaced they had to make and then all new doors, reface everything else including an island. I think it was pretty reasonable actually. Something like 40 doors and 13 pull out drawers.
 

Ns1

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hire a vietnamese contractor from little saigon. <10k no problem.
 

Tweak155

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Wow. We just redid the kitchen on a house we bought last year... redid it before we moved in. Completely gutted including floor, repainting all walls etc.

We paid to have the counter put in, but we did the rest of the work ourselves. Pretty sure to have them do it, the cost was another $2-$3k... but since we did most all the work, the final cost was right near $4800. We had a lot of delays though due to damaged cabinets (they were custom, so we had to wait for them to re-stain a replacement each time), it was pretty annoying. But, we get lots of compliments on the final outcome.
 

MarkXIX

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It was $3000 for the entire house, all rooms, all trim, all doors, all ceilings.
We provided paint.

That price I could live with. This was a full bath and a half bath. Prices were ridiculous. We would have paid about $250 including supplies. Didn't expect the quotes given.
 

IronWing

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The Price List
Kitchen cabinet replacement - $15,000
Customer watches work - $15,000
Customer provides helpful input to workers - $20,000
Customer live blogs work to ATOT, including pics and commentary - $15,000
Total - $65,000
 

DrPizza

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When you're not willing to do it yourself, you have to pay what others will charge you. Sometimes, there's more than enough work for the contractors, so they're able to raise their prices. I was chatting with a roofer one day, "I didn't want this job, so I bid way too much on it. They accepted my bid." He bid thousands more than he would have charged for the time and materials, simply because he didn't like working on steeper pitches (very steep roof).