Reasons to vote for Ron Paul

SandEagle

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he is the official frontrunner of the Republican nomination.
he's a doctor!!! (which means he's really smart)
he puts America 1rd, 2st, and 3nd
the media hates him. which means he supports the truth.
he doesn't kiss foreign buttholes
he is a true American patriot

did i miss anything?
 

Lemon law

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Yup you missed something Sandeagle, Ron Paul is a total nut. Libertarianism is a utopian ideal, totally unworkable in the real world.

Ron Paul is not the first nor will he be the last to advocate utopian schemes, but its no accident that libertarianism has never been tried in a modern society. The very infrastructure a modern society that supports a modern society would never exist in a libertarian government. And would degenerate into anarchy rapidly.

But the idea always looks good on paper to the non-thinking.

Which is not to say that Ron Paul is right on other things. Right now the USA as a status quo nation is failing rather badly in trying to prevent changes in the world and losing rather badly in the process. We in the USA need to stay at home and adapt to changes.

That is not a libertarian ideal, its good old common sense.
 

chucky2

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But he would be a large check against the cesspool that is Congress. A very large Plus...
 

bfdd

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Yup you missed something Sandeagle, Ron Paul is a total nut. Libertarianism is a utopian ideal, totally unworkable in the real world.

Ron Paul is not the first nor will he be the last to advocate utopian schemes, but its no accident that libertarianism has never been tried in a modern society. The very infrastructure a modern society that supports a modern society would never exist in a libertarian government. And would degenerate into anarchy rapidly.

But the idea always looks good on paper to the non-thinking.

Which is not to say that Ron Paul is right on other things. Right now the USA as a status quo nation is failing rather badly in trying to prevent changes in the world and losing rather badly in the process. We in the USA need to stay at home and adapt to changes.

That is not a libertarian ideal, its good old common sense.

I think socialism and communism are for the most part fantasy utopian schemes as well. A little dabble from each isn't to bad though.
 

Brigandier

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The number one reason to vote for Ron Paul is that he'll cut spending, and his really crazy ideas still need congressional approval. Crazy ideas: his view on social security, his view on abortion, his view on education.
 

quest55720

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The number 1 reason to vote for paul is he would actually cut millitary spending and get out of the wars.
 

bfdd

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The number one reason to vote for Ron Paul is that he'll cut spending, and his really crazy ideas still need congressional approval. Crazy ideas: his view on social security, his view on abortion, his view on education.

very true, people forget about that shit. they think the president is a dictator until a conversation about legislation comes up then he's forgotten.
 

Brigandier

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very true, people forget about that shit. they think the president is a dictator until a conversation about legislation comes up then he's forgotten.

Yep, all Ron Paul could reasonably do is reign in the executive branch, but I guess that's a shame.
 

M0RPH

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Reasons why Ron Paul could never be elected:

1) He comes across as a little, weird old man.
2) His whole persona, voice, the way he talks is not presidential.
3) Americans like their presidents to look and sound like movie actors.

Not saying I approve of this, but it's the way it is. Personally I think Ron Paul is a smart guy and might make a decent president.
 

Brigandier

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xj0hnx

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Libertarianism is a utopian ideal, totally unworkable in the real world.

No, it's not, but then again to a nannystater like youself any society that would require respect for your fellow man, and personal responsibility is going to be seen as "unworkable".

Ron Paul is not the first nor will he be the last to advocate utopian schemes, but its no accident that libertarianism has never been tried in a modern society. The very infrastructure a modern society that supports a modern society would never exist in a libertarian government. And would degenerate into anarchy rapidly.

To simply call you clueless would be a gross understatement.
 

LegendKiller

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No, it's not, but then again to a nannystater like youself any society that would require respect for your fellow man, and personal responsibility is going to be seen as "unworkable".



To simply call you clueless would be a gross understatement.

First off, the luxury of being able to write what we are now is because an interventionist policy by France, set by a king. The whole foundation of your libertopianism is shaky at best, if only because of that.

Second, how would Ron Paul have dealt with Hitler?
 
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He gets my vote justt for being the only honest politician regardless if i agree 100% with his views or not. I agree with a lot of his views, but not all. Its refreshing to see someone sticking to his guns all these years. You can watch videos of his from 1968 and he is still saying the same stuff today. No flip flopping for him.
 
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Reasons why Ron Paul could never be elected:

1) He comes across as a little, weird old man.
2) His whole persona, voice, the way he talks is not presidential.
3) Americans like their presidents to look and sound like movie actors.

Not saying I approve of this, but it's the way it is. Personally I think Ron Paul is a smart guy and might make a decent president.

Guess the GOP dropped the bomb with Bush then. :cool:
 

IceBergSLiM

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Yup you missed something Sandeagle, Ron Paul is a total nut. Libertarianism is a utopian ideal, totally unworkable in the real world.

Ron Paul is not the first nor will he be the last to advocate utopian schemes, but its no accident that libertarianism has never been tried in a modern society. The very infrastructure a modern society that supports a modern society would never exist in a libertarian government. And would degenerate into anarchy rapidly.

But the idea always looks good on paper to the non-thinking.

Which is not to say that Ron Paul is right on other things. Right now the USA as a status quo nation is failing rather badly in trying to prevent changes in the world and losing rather badly in the process. We in the USA need to stay at home and adapt to changes.

That is not a libertarian ideal, its good old common sense.

So you believe he would automatically implement a full blown utopian society? I guess in the same way obama has made this country socialist. :roll;

So what is your suggestion, which status quo republican should we choose?
 

IceBergSLiM

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Reasons why Ron Paul could never be elected:

1) He comes across as a little, weird old man.
2) His whole persona, voice, the way he talks is not presidential.
3) Americans like their presidents to look and sound like movie actors.

Not saying I approve of this, but it's the way it is. Personally I think Ron Paul is a smart guy and might make a decent president.

those are the lies the media are feeding everyone because they are scared. stop perpetuated that bullshit.
 

LegendKiller

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So you believe he would automatically implement a full blown utopian society? I guess in the same way obama has made this country socialist. :roll;

So what is your suggestion, which status quo republican should we choose?

I got wrapped up in the "lets be different and pick somebody non status-quo" when I voted for Jesse Ventura while I was going to the UofMN. At the time I was paying ~$9,000/yr in tuition and R&B. Now that cost is more than $23,000/yr because of him and his follow-up clowns. Public education DOES have a place in this society, especially at a higher level and fools like him have been undercutting that. Let's not even get started on the other idiocy that he started, including slashing MNDOT budgets that underfunded infrastructure, including bridge and highway inspections.

Presidents can do enough damage on their own, as we've seen more recently.
 

momeNt

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Yup you missed something Sandeagle, Ron Paul is a total nut. Libertarianism is a utopian ideal, totally unworkable in the real world.

Ron Paul is not the first nor will he be the last to advocate utopian schemes, but its no accident that libertarianism has never been tried in a modern society. The very infrastructure a modern society that supports a modern society would never exist in a libertarian government. And would degenerate into anarchy rapidly.

But the idea always looks good on paper to the non-thinking.

Which is not to say that Ron Paul is right on other things. Right now the USA as a status quo nation is failing rather badly in trying to prevent changes in the world and losing rather badly in the process. We in the USA need to stay at home and adapt to changes.

That is not a libertarian ideal, its good old common sense.

So believing that the federal government has to make laws that abide by the constitution suddenly makes you libertarian?
 

xBiffx

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Reasons why Ron Paul could never be elected:

1) He comes across as a little, weird old man.
2) His whole persona, voice, the way he talks is not presidential.
3) Americans like their presidents to look and sound like movie actors.

Not saying I approve of this, but it's the way it is. Personally I think Ron Paul is a smart guy and might make a decent president.

How did we end up with Obummer then?
 

bradley

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So believing that the federal government has to make laws that abide by the constitution suddenly makes you libertarian?

It makes you someone who wants to kill a living breathing document, or place it on life-support.
 

momeNt

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I got wrapped up in the "lets be different and pick somebody non status-quo" when I voted for Jesse Ventura while I was going to the UofMN. At the time I was paying ~$9,000/yr in tuition and R&B. Now that cost is more than $23,000/yr because of him and his follow-up clowns. Public education DOES have a place in this society, especially at a higher level and fools like him have been undercutting that. Let's not even get started on the other idiocy that he started, including slashing MNDOT budgets that underfunded infrastructure, including bridge and highway inspections.

Presidents can do enough damage on their own, as we've seen more recently.

So you just status quo'd all the non status quo people.
 

bradley

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You lost me.

I didn't know we were looking for one another. :)

"Living breathing document" is a code word used by Statists, activists and community organizers. Suddenly a Libertarian as President gains some legitimacy, especially being that Mr. Paul and I at least agree on the fundamentals, and he believes in the rule of law.

For instance, Ron Paul in the Oval Office means handfuls of czars would be getting pink slips, sent packing back toward the crony corporate world from whence they came.