Really interesting 1080p LED Android projector on Indigogo

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Aikouka

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XGIMI H2-Aurora now available:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DM5LY7B

Extra hundred bucks ($1,200), but you get 1,500 lumens.

Hm, the thing that sticks out to me with these two is the price. The original was at a pretty decent price point that made it competitive with other 1080p projectors (at that time). Well, the problem is that this is now only slightly cheaper than an entry-level 4K projector from Optoma. While that sounds like one to avoid, it actually reviews quite well.

If I'm looking for a good 1080p projector, I find it hard to ignore the more budget-oriented units like the Optoma HD143X or its more expensive cousin, the HD27e. Sure, it doesn't have horizontal keystone correction, but both of the aforementioned projectors are less than half the price. To note, the HD27e doesn't even have vertical keystone correction, which is odd since it costs more than the HD143X, which does have it. Although, since keystone correction alters the image to compensate for the off-angle projection, a picky viewer might prefer a straighter shot over keystone correction anyway.
 

Kaido

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Hm, the thing that sticks out to me with these two is the price. The original was at a pretty decent price point that made it competitive with other 1080p projectors (at that time). Well, the problem is that this is now only slightly cheaper than an entry-level 4K projector from Optoma. While that sounds like one to avoid, it actually reviews quite well.

If I'm looking for a good 1080p projector, I find it hard to ignore the more budget-oriented units like the Optoma HD143X or its more expensive cousin, the HD27e. Sure, it doesn't have horizontal keystone correction, but both of the aforementioned projectors are less than half the price. To note, the HD27e doesn't even have vertical keystone correction, which is odd since it costs more than the HD143X, which does have it. Although, since keystone correction alters the image to compensate for the off-angle projection, a picky viewer might prefer a straighter shot over keystone correction anyway.

Agreed. The initial $700 price was really good per the feature set, especially since 4K & Faux-4K projectors are out these days in the ~$1,350 range. The 1,500-lumen H2-Aurora is currently going for $1,250 shipped & is still only 1080p resolution. There are some still some benefits to the XGIMI, however:

1. It's LED. Instant-on, doesn't get hot, no bulb to replace, etc. Side note, I'm not a fan of either of the currently-available 1080p LED models from LG. imo the XGIMI is a zillion times better than both the UST & the regular model.

2. You can throw the picture sideways. I don't know of any other projector that lets you do that (maybe someone can chime in with a conventional brand that has that feature). Really cool feature because you don't need a ceiling mount (i.e. can mount it on the left or right side of the room), especially if you're doing Kinect games or DDR or don't have easy ceiling access or whatever.

3. It's AIO, which adds to the portability (...ish. It's about shoebox-sized & note, no battery option). I'd still personally go with an external player (mostly due to the Chinese-language conversion issues) over the built-in Android system for most stuff, however. But the speaker is pretty decent (equivalent to a soundbar), so if you want to move it into a different room or use it outside, it's pretty convenient. And their mounting systems are really good - I've installed the wall-mount, which has a bowl (tripod-style for tilting & aiming it) & they have a ceiling mount & floor stand available as well.

4. The X factor...don't know how best to explain it. This projector is VERY approachable. Turns on quick, does automatic autofocus after boot, crystal-clear picture (like LED TV-equivalent), goes to a huge screen size easily, etc. It's like using a smartphone over like a wall-mounted rotary landline, or like driving an electric car vs. a gas-powered car. It's hard to explain, but it's a very nice perk...it's just kind of a low-friction device to operate. There's no mental barrier to using it. I know a lot of people who have projectors, but still just use their TV's because all you have to do is pretty a button on the remote control & it's "on", you know? That's partly why I think that console & PC gaming still rules over VR (aside from the cost)...modern VR, like the Vive with Lighthouses, is absolutely incredible, but you can simply flunk down on the couch to play Xbox or whatever & not have to wear a headset or get wired in.

Granted, the Optoma HD143X is a light canon - 3,000 lumens for $500 is no joke - so that's something to consider, especially if you plan on doing movies outside (which is awesome and is something I would HIGHLY recommend, lol). Everything just keeps getting smaller, better, and cheaper! Speaking of that, my current portable projector is the Aaxa P300 Neo:

https://www.amazon.com/AAXA-P300-Neo-Video-Projector/dp/B074QK249C/

Normally $300, but goes on sale for $250 shipped on a regular basis. Palm-size, 720p, 420 lumens (which looks a LOT brighter than it should; I've read that LED lumens are perceived as either 1.3x or 1.6x as bright as regular bulb-based lumens), and has a 2.5-hour battery, so if you want to go to the beach or camping or whatever, you can watch a full-length movie on it without having to plug it in. For the record, I like the Aaxa P300 Neo waaaaaaaay better than the LG PH300.

Anyway...yeah $1,250 is kinda nuts for a 1080p projector these days. BUT, you get your money's worth. tbh, if I were building a dedicated home theater today, I'd have a hard time choosing between an H2-Aurora & a 4K projector.
 

Aikouka

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2. You can throw the picture sideways. I don't know of any other projector that lets you do that (maybe someone can chime in with a conventional brand that has that feature). Really cool feature because you don't need a ceiling mount (i.e. can mount it on the left or right side of the room), especially if you're doing Kinect games or DDR or don't have easy ceiling access or whatever.

But won't this have an effect on image quality? One of the points that I kept seeing brought up about off-angle projections is that the projector has to physically change the image to "square it up". Most of these are referencing vertical shifts (vertical keystone correction), but I'm guessing that it would be the same for horizontal?
 

Kaido

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But won't this have an effect on image quality? One of the points that I kept seeing brought up about off-angle projections is that the projector has to physically change the image to "square it up". Most of these are referencing vertical shifts (vertical keystone correction), but I'm guessing that it would be the same for horizontal?

Looks pretty good for me, although I've only really seen it used to shoot movies & video games, not Excel or anything. I'll have to try it out this weekend with a PC connected!
 

killster1

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how does this compare to a cheap laser 4k projector? Im in the market for a new tv / projector. i dont really care about speakers or android. since it wont compare to a nvidia shield or anything else (what are the android specs?) rk3399 chip? 4gb ram? 64gb rom? ;) :) i see you mention android 5.1.1! yikes where is teh support!

also what about LED laser projector?

And will i see rainbows when my eyes dart across the screen like the last LED projector i owned?
 

Kaido

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how does this compare to a cheap laser 4k projector? Im in the market for a new tv / projector. i dont really care about speakers or android. since it wont compare to a nvidia shield or anything else (what are the android specs?) rk3399 chip? 4gb ram? 64gb rom? ;) :) i see you mention android 5.1.1! yikes where is teh support!

also what about LED laser projector?

And will i see rainbows when my eyes dart across the screen like the last LED projector i owned?

I've used some cheap laser projectors & prefer LED projectors. Bulb projectors still have the warmest image with the best colors, but an XGIMI LED projector is so close & the convenience is so much better (instant-on, doesn't heat up the room, no bulb to replace, compact, etc.) that I don't really bother with bulb projectors much anymore. I haven't had any rainbow issues on mine! As far as onboard Android support goes, it's pretty much junk, just get a Roku stick haha.
 

Kaido

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So popping in 4 years later:

1. I've done H1, H2, and H3 installations. They work great! Being able to put the projector on the left or right wall, like on a bookshelf, and shoot sideways is REALLY nice.
2. Not sure why the H3 was taken off the market, but they sell the H2 on Amazon.
3. However, a daughter brand to XGIMI called Dangbei now has a newer version that has 2050 lumens. I'll be testing that next month when my first unit arrives. $990 plus shipping:


Also available on Amazon for a bit more:


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For comparison, I tested out a 4K AAXA 4K1 projector & didn't care for it at all. Very noisy, black levels weren't good, focus was off on part of the screen, etc. I 100% prefer the 1080p resolution of the XGIMI over the 4K native resolution of the AAXA. Granted, you can get a BenQ 4K TK800M for the same price, so you kind of have to decide what you want out of your projector. A big reason I like the XGIMI units is they're plug & play. Despite the Chinese menus, they're as easy as operating a television & look just as good as a late-model LED HDTV in the dark. Very excited to see how 2,000+ LED lumens look on the new F3!

The previous H3 unit has a really great auto-keystone & auto-focus system using a tilt sensor inside, so all you have to do is pick up the projector & turn it where you want it, and it will shoot the picture on the wall & set it up automatically, which is SUPER cool, especially if you travel with it or use it outdoors! Only catch is no real zoom, which is something I wish it had for placement purposes, but being able to put it off to the side makes up for it pretty well!

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